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Old 06 July 2010, 12:44 PM
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Aww they are repsecting your privacy. Probably complaints from the federation members that it keeps telling people they are in Krispy Kremes or something lol.

DD trackballs are indeed very yesterday, but were more effective that the scrollwheel they replaces, and imo more user friendly than D pads for sure.

I fully agree, they should be offering a free bumper with them. I guess its the high cost of fame. The more desirable and followed something becomes, the more that is expected of them.
Old 06 July 2010, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ScoobyWon't
Just to lighten the mood slightly, yesterday I received an email to my Blackberry sent from the mobile data department at work. Something along the lines of they have upgraded the OS inside it and it needs updating by simply following the instructions.

Easy to do and the BB is working again in around a minutes time.

However, they've changed something rather silly and now everytime any of us use google maps, we keep getting a message saying "This application may pinpoint your position. Do you wish to allow it?"
No ****! I'd have thought it'd be really useful for a GPS based device to be able to pinpoint where I am...
Do they mean that someone else could pinpoint your position?

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Old 06 July 2010, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
Prices are coming down Les, I can remember paying £7,000 for a Laptop not that many years ago, it was a magnitude less powerful that the mobile devices - calling them a phone is a bit misleading - available today.
Well i know how cheaply I can upgrade my own computer to a pretty powerful item so I was surprised at what they are charging at the moment. Yes I realise there is a bit more to them than being a phone!

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Old 06 July 2010, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Devildog
Personally I think it's commendable that apple have come clean and offered a full refund. Never seen that from others such as [...] Toyota etc, etc when their products had a design flaw.
You mean other than the free replacement of a potentially faulty part on all vehicles that might have been affected regardless of whether they actually were or not?

Couldn't give less of a **** about the iphone/android debate, but if you're going to cite other manufacturers you have to at least get your facts right otherwise it brings into question the validity of your own post.
Old 06 July 2010, 03:41 PM
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I still maintain that the antenna issue is almost entirely media hyped, I've now tried two iPhones and have failed to have any effect. Why should Apple pay out for something imagined by news hungry websites and Apple hating people with nothing better to do.
Old 06 July 2010, 03:59 PM
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I've had it since release and had no issues in and out of the case
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My 4 is fine !
Old 06 July 2010, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
Go to Google, type Widgets and click "I feel Lucky" then suck some Lemons.
yahoo! widgets? what's your point?
Old 06 July 2010, 04:29 PM
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Ah so you're the only person in the world who doesn't get taken to Apple. Your credibility rating has just hit minus figures.
Old 06 July 2010, 04:36 PM
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You really are dumb.

Google tailors your web results based on your history, ergo you get taken to Apple, presumably because you spend your evenings hunched over cracking one out over shiny things.

Straw man arguments the best you got? Again?
Old 06 July 2010, 04:43 PM
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As I'm sat at a hotel computer right now I very much doubt the result is based on my browsing. Same result earlier today on my Macbook and my work computer. Anyone else care to try?

Calling me dumb will only reduce your credibility even more. Getting touchy never works.
Old 06 July 2010, 04:47 PM
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Possibly a difference between google.co.uk and google.com, as I also got Yahoo.

In fact, it is. Changed the google toolbar to use .com instead of .co.uk and the apple site is top of the list, but it's second on .co.uk
Old 06 July 2010, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
I still maintain that the antenna issue is almost entirely media hyped, I've now tried two iPhones and have failed to have any effect. Why should Apple pay out for something imagined by news hungry websites and Apple hating people with nothing better to do.
Originally Posted by antc
I've had it since release and had no issues in and out of the case
While I agree the story has been blown out of proportion, are you both honestly saying that you have been unable to make the phones signal bar drop by holding it in the way suggested, or that just in say to day calls you have not lost any calls?

I stood in the Apple store and got 4-5 to all drop from full to one bar within thirty seconds. It did not however go to no service.

I fully accept what Apples explanation of the issue is, and agree it could well be the case. But if that is the case, then all it says is once again the iPhone has lousy reception.

So just curious to know, Ant, Jack..... If you hold your phone left handed cupped in your palm, with full signal, does it drop signal strength or stay full?
Old 06 July 2010, 04:49 PM
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OK I'll give you that one I should have stated Google.com. But you get the point, your widgets are just an imitation of a function Apple have been championing for years, a function that's outdated.
Old 06 July 2010, 04:51 PM
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Stays full. If the connection here wasn't so bad I'd upload a video.
Old 06 July 2010, 04:58 PM
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Like I said, straw man argument...

You say Android is a copy of iOS.

I say no it isn't, it's totally different.

But then you prove your point by saying if you Google "widget" the first result is Apple.



Good logic there.
Old 06 July 2010, 04:59 PM
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That's really weird then Jack, maybe it's your internal pips giving it a boost or something lol.
Like i say I stood in the apple store and did a few on the trot. Takes about thirty seconds for the signal to drop right down.
That said, apparently apple are suggesting AT&T are also at fault, so that could explain the consistency here maybe?
I will have to try another store before I leave.
Old 06 July 2010, 05:00 PM
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Oh double posts, woohoo . Weird how they have started now.

With regards to widgets. I think there comes a point where copying and imitation are no longer relevant. I think it has been long enough now to say Apple innovated with the idea, and other have made their own versions of a popular idea.

No one denies that Apple started a whole new way of living so to speak, but to bitch about everything that comes out that dares to be similar, a little silly me thinks.
Personally I find Android very different and also very pleasing, can't wait to see how their tablet comes out too.

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Old 06 July 2010, 05:10 PM
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Nope it doesn't snaz. I don't see what the fuss is about surely if you have a £500 phone you would want to protect it with a case.

I've seen and played with android phone it's nice but it's not as slick as the iPhone, That's my opinion.

When a android phone gets released that can do hd on the fly editing , talk to me
Old 06 July 2010, 05:17 PM
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Charlie Brooker's take on the Iphone4

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...ne-4-apple-new


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Old 06 July 2010, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by antc
Nope it doesn't snaz. I don't see what the fuss is about surely if you have a £500 phone you would want to protect it with a case.

I've seen and played with android phone it's nice but it's not as slick as the iPhone, That's my opinion.

When a android phone gets released that can do hd on the fly editing , talk to me
That's proper weird then, next time you are in London, hand it over haha.
A friends drops all the time, with ease and she is a dinky girl too.

The whole case argument is valid indeed, but plenty of people have never used cases on their phones, Inc iPhones. I for one rarely use any kind of case. The whole idea of it being an object of beauty is to show it off. In short, not everyone shares the same sentiment about cases lol.

As for the androids that shoot in HD, I am totally our of touch so can't comment if one is available or coming soon, but it's not everyones priority, although is very slick and trick indeed.

Personally I prefer neither as they are touch screen devices and far too small for my liking, so neither ticks my boxes, to stay impartial lol
Old 06 July 2010, 05:21 PM
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I was asked an opinion Snazy and I gave it, Android is an imitation of iOS, that's clear to everyone but a buffoon. Imitation is not a bad thing at all, it's good for us all. Then some no mark comes along and tells me that Android is completely different because it has Widgets and Apple doesn't, I found that insanely funny as Apple have been at the top of the Widget game for many years, in fact a whole bunch of Widget developers have moved to producing and making cold hard cash from iPhone applications.
Old 06 July 2010, 05:26 PM
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From that perspective I see your point Jack. However to shun something immediately because you feel it is an imitation with limitation is short sighted too.

I think we both know Android are doing incredibly well, and their right hand men HTC also seem to be outdoing themselves too. which is only a good thing for the market I'm sure.

Bring on BB OS 6.0 . The game changer lol
Old 06 July 2010, 05:31 PM
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I'm sure there is one with hd recording I'm talking about editing it.

Some people generally don't like iPhones like yourself snaz but majority of them are riding the bandwagon and normally they're the people that can't afford one
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I'm sure there is one with hd recording I'm talking about editing it.

Some people generally don't like iPhones like yourself snaz but majority of them are riding the bandwagon and normally they're the people that can't afford one
Old 06 July 2010, 05:42 PM
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Now, Now Snazy, I never mentioned Limitations I have a great love for all things Google and an equal affection for open source software. Google and their open source efforts have done a great job - riding on the coat tails of Apple - by bringing a lot of benefit to people who either can't afford the real deal or want something different and fair play to them. But I stand by the fact that you're a buffoon if you can't see the imitation.
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Lol Jack I think the time has come to move on from the imitation argument. All great things are invented, then at some point other innovate from a great idea, which was indeed apple's.

Personally I think Android have got close enough to the idea, but remained far enough away to make it something different to offer the consumer.

Ant, you are right mate, the iPhone is not to my liking, too small to make it of any interest to me. Which is the reason I have no interest in editing a video on the bloody things either lol.
I agree though, there are som haters with no objective, then there are others who just choose not to like something lol
Old 06 July 2010, 05:51 PM
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I do hope this goes onto another page soon, I'm getting tired of this browser and having to caress the screen to get to the bottom of the page all the time
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Shrink the screen the double tap bottom post fool
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Here is a link that might be of interest
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3794/t...one-4-review/2


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