what would u buy 10-12k?
10 July 2010, 09:57 PM
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TBH your assumptions are somewhat naive (not being nasty btw
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There's so much difference between scoobs that unless you actually get behind the driving seat you are writing off cars that might be perfect for you based on someone elses opinion based on a whole different set of priorities.
Not sure why you are selling yours however, it appears that you are contemplating getting an initially less powerful less practical car than your current motor. Why ?
Everyone knows JDM rock, however it's not quite as clear cut as that.
For a family man the 2.5 WRX Wagon makes a huge amount of sense. Easily tuned to mid 300's, practical and unsuspecting. The whole make up of the car is different to the classic experience from the comfort level to the torque available to the zero resistance as you lift off the throttle. Effortless power for little money. This is true of the STi more so although not in wagon form.
If you were set on the 2.0ltr the JDM wins more convincingly over UK 2.0ltrs, however the 2.5 is IMHO of equivalent desirability, just a different package which you may or may not prefer.
My advice to you would be to forget the preconceptions you have of WRX's/STI's/JDM's/UK motors based on driving a classic. If you haven't driven a new age I suggest you drive as many as you can and then reassess
Personally, if the classic is sound and you have money to invest, make it better because the newage can often be a mild disappointment to die hard classic drivers.
The other consideration is that any newage you buy WILL need modifiying to make it comparable.
)There's so much difference between scoobs that unless you actually get behind the driving seat you are writing off cars that might be perfect for you based on someone elses opinion based on a whole different set of priorities.
Not sure why you are selling yours however, it appears that you are contemplating getting an initially less powerful less practical car than your current motor. Why ?
Everyone knows JDM rock, however it's not quite as clear cut as that.
For a family man the 2.5 WRX Wagon makes a huge amount of sense. Easily tuned to mid 300's, practical and unsuspecting. The whole make up of the car is different to the classic experience from the comfort level to the torque available to the zero resistance as you lift off the throttle. Effortless power for little money. This is true of the STi more so although not in wagon form.
If you were set on the 2.0ltr the JDM wins more convincingly over UK 2.0ltrs, however the 2.5 is IMHO of equivalent desirability, just a different package which you may or may not prefer.
My advice to you would be to forget the preconceptions you have of WRX's/STI's/JDM's/UK motors based on driving a classic. If you haven't driven a new age I suggest you drive as many as you can and then reassess
Personally, if the classic is sound and you have money to invest, make it better because the newage can often be a mild disappointment to die hard classic drivers.
The other consideration is that any newage you buy WILL need modifiying to make it comparable.
.but she also likes the haykeye sti(not so much the blobeye,and nor me to be honest).so im trying to look at price and specs etc,air con and all that jazz is a must.the one thing we dont want is a car that i constantly want to mod because i dont think its fast enough. do love the jdm hawkeye sti tho
if i drove one i would expect to be very impressed?350-400bhp ideally.
10 July 2010, 10:00 PM
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The JDM hawks will be out of your price bracket 
13-14k for one on average, you will end up in blob territory though, 10k should get you a decent one 
and 360/390 is very good on the road in a twin scroll car
Tony
13-14k for one on average, you will end up in blob territory though, 10k should get you a decent one and 360/390 is very good on the road in a twin scroll car Tony
10 July 2010, 10:12 PM
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be it a P1, a UK 2.5, a JDM, Spec D, Spec C, Hawkeye, Blobeye etc.
In your original post you said the car had to be a family daily driver, you've also repeated several times that you really like the colour white, at least you have some starting points.
David at API's Spec D sounds like a good starting point for a test drive. He probably has a couple of othe cars ready for testing also.
For a JDM newage try Litchfield Imports
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10 July 2010, 10:20 PM
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No disrepect meant, but you have been given a lot of information today, perhaps it's now time to go out there and drive a few different imprezas if an impreza is what you're after.
be it a P1, a UK 2.5, a JDM, Spec D, Spec C, Hawkeye, Blobeye etc.
In your original post you said the car had to be a family daily driver, you've also repeated several times that you really like the colour white, at least you have some starting points.
David at API's Spec D sounds like a good starting point for a test drive. He probably has a couple of othe cars ready for testing also.
For a JDM newage try Litchfield Imports
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be it a P1, a UK 2.5, a JDM, Spec D, Spec C, Hawkeye, Blobeye etc.
In your original post you said the car had to be a family daily driver, you've also repeated several times that you really like the colour white, at least you have some starting points.
David at API's Spec D sounds like a good starting point for a test drive. He probably has a couple of othe cars ready for testing also.
For a JDM newage try Litchfield Imports
Andrew
10 July 2010, 10:30 PM
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the spec d at api,personally it looks a bit too discreet,its a nice car fore sure and probably drives superb,but for me i would want something a little more agrresive looking? i do like the look of the jdm.when the time comes i think i know what im after,thanks everyone.
10 July 2010, 10:35 PM
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£10k is going to get you a 2005 STI Type UK car of a 2003 STI JDM - both Blobeyes.
You won't get a Hawkeye STI (UK or JDM) enless you are VERY lucky.
You (or your partner) might find a Spec C a bit too much as a comfy everyday car.
£12k opens the market up a bit more, but you're still looking at Blobeye STI'ss or a very cheap STI Type UK Hawkeye.
A Hawkeye Spec C will be £15k minimum, probably nearer £17k.
If you really want a comfy, everyday Hawkeye for £10k-£12k you're going to have to look at WRX models.
You won't get a Hawkeye STI (UK or JDM) enless you are VERY lucky.
You (or your partner) might find a Spec C a bit too much as a comfy everyday car.
£12k opens the market up a bit more, but you're still looking at Blobeye STI'ss or a very cheap STI Type UK Hawkeye.
A Hawkeye Spec C will be £15k minimum, probably nearer £17k.
If you really want a comfy, everyday Hawkeye for £10k-£12k you're going to have to look at WRX models.
10 July 2010, 10:36 PM
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Ive got a uk version 9 sti and its alright.
Theres no way your going to get a white hawkeye sti for your budget mate, they're around the 15k mark.
I may be wrong but i think the power limit of the standard twin scroll is 360bhp, for 400bhp your going to have to splash the cash abit mate.
I prefer the JDM cars and i do wish i baught one, only thing i dont like about them is they lack the scooby burble and they're dearer to insure ect.
I dont know if its any help but my previous subaru was an sti estate and the new-age is a better all round car, it may not handle aswell but its more reliable and capable of more power.
If i was in your shoes again looking for a new-age, i'd buy a grey version 9 JDM blobeye.
Goodluck.
Theres no way your going to get a white hawkeye sti for your budget mate, they're around the 15k mark.
I may be wrong but i think the power limit of the standard twin scroll is 360bhp, for 400bhp your going to have to splash the cash abit mate.
I prefer the JDM cars and i do wish i baught one, only thing i dont like about them is they lack the scooby burble and they're dearer to insure ect.
I dont know if its any help but my previous subaru was an sti estate and the new-age is a better all round car, it may not handle aswell but its more reliable and capable of more power.
If i was in your shoes again looking for a new-age, i'd buy a grey version 9 JDM blobeye.
Goodluck.
10 July 2010, 11:05 PM
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Ive got a uk version 9 sti and its alright.
Theres no way your going to get a white hawkeye sti for your budget mate, they're around the 15k mark.
I may be wrong but i think the power limit of the standard twin scroll is 360bhp, for 400bhp your going to have to splash the cash abit mate.
I prefer the JDM cars and i do wish i baught one, only thing i dont like about them is they lack the scooby burble and they're dearer to insure ect.
I dont know if its any help but my previous subaru was an sti estate and the new-age is a better all round car, it may not handle aswell but its more reliable and capable of more power.
If i was in your shoes again looking for a new-age, i'd buy a grey version 9 JDM blobeye.
Goodluck.
Theres no way your going to get a white hawkeye sti for your budget mate, they're around the 15k mark.
I may be wrong but i think the power limit of the standard twin scroll is 360bhp, for 400bhp your going to have to splash the cash abit mate.
I prefer the JDM cars and i do wish i baught one, only thing i dont like about them is they lack the scooby burble and they're dearer to insure ect.
I dont know if its any help but my previous subaru was an sti estate and the new-age is a better all round car, it may not handle aswell but its more reliable and capable of more power.
If i was in your shoes again looking for a new-age, i'd buy a grey version 9 JDM blobeye.
Goodluck.
10 July 2010, 11:07 PM
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£10k is going to get you a 2005 STI Type UK car of a 2003 STI JDM - both Blobeyes.
You won't get a Hawkeye STI (UK or JDM) enless you are VERY lucky.
You (or your partner) might find a Spec C a bit too much as a comfy everyday car.
£12k opens the market up a bit more, but you're still looking at Blobeye STI'ss or a very cheap STI Type UK Hawkeye.
A Hawkeye Spec C will be £15k minimum, probably nearer £17k.
If you really want a comfy, everyday Hawkeye for £10k-£12k you're going to have to look at WRX models.
You won't get a Hawkeye STI (UK or JDM) enless you are VERY lucky.
You (or your partner) might find a Spec C a bit too much as a comfy everyday car.
£12k opens the market up a bit more, but you're still looking at Blobeye STI'ss or a very cheap STI Type UK Hawkeye.
A Hawkeye Spec C will be £15k minimum, probably nearer £17k.
If you really want a comfy, everyday Hawkeye for £10k-£12k you're going to have to look at WRX models.
10 July 2010, 11:44 PM
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I test drove uk sti's although only 2.0 ones and then a twinscroll jdm it felt a much better car and although a bit dearer than a uk car in the long run will work out cheaper as it would take a few mods to get a uk car as good. The lack of burble is something you soon get used to, the suspension is a little harder and it does about 500rpm more at 60mph than my old MY03 wrx but you really need to drive one to see if it suits you as everyone has different expectations. The insurance was same for import or uk car for me, but then I am old at 42. It has the added bonus of being plg on road tax, The jdm vs uk debate could go on forever but I seriously think you need to look into it more and decide what suits you best, My other half didn't understand why I spent money buying a car that in her eyes was the same as the one I am selling, I dismissed a spec c as I wanted all the extras like rear wash and wipe, auto air conditioning, rear privacy glass etc, but if it was a 2nd car for weekend use only my decision might have been different,
I have no regrets but I did look into it carefully before I decided. The only problem was once I had decided it was very hard to find one for sale. I was after a JDM MY05 WR blue sti in standard spec and I wanted plg road tax not the £400+ one, It took me over 6 months to find one, almost swayed to a uk car but then one appeared on autotrader. Sorry to go on but my advice is step back a bit view a few cars then decide what suits you before you spend your cash, there's nothing worse than making the wrong decision.
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I have no regrets but I did look into it carefully before I decided. The only problem was once I had decided it was very hard to find one for sale. I was after a JDM MY05 WR blue sti in standard spec and I wanted plg road tax not the £400+ one, It took me over 6 months to find one, almost swayed to a uk car but then one appeared on autotrader. Sorry to go on but my advice is step back a bit view a few cars then decide what suits you before you spend your cash, there's nothing worse than making the wrong decision.
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10 July 2010, 11:45 PM
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Last one of these I saw John was up in Orkney with 8k on the clock, it had been in the sales room for about a year and a bit, in the end he was open to offers think it must have gone for about 12-13k 
as he had dropped it from 18-14k, would have loved that one myself
http://www.jdpeace.co.uk/cars/pop31.html (now sold)
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think it must have gone for about 12-13k as he had dropped it from 18-14k, would have loved that one myself http://www.jdpeace.co.uk/cars/pop31.html (now sold
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£10K wouldn't buy my car Tony.
11 July 2010, 12:22 AM
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If I find one for sale John, I shall let you know but came across just the 2 when I was starting to look for another Spec C, this was the other one.
http://users.autoexposure.co.uk/vehi...2188773_1a.jpg
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but came across just the 2 when I was starting to look for another Spec C, this was the other one.http://users.autoexposure.co.uk/vehi...2188773_1a.jpg
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11 July 2010, 07:59 AM
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http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1817976.htm
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1857792.htm
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1857754.htm
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11 July 2010, 10:25 AM
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a bit over priced, but then again low mileage and sensible mods
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1855294.htm
Not a spec C but well modded JDM
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1827910.htm
'99 - just look on this page.... http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/lis...&Submit=Search
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1855294.htm
Not a spec C but well modded JDM
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1827910.htm
'99 - just look on this page.... http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/lis...&Submit=Search
11 July 2010, 10:32 AM
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Mine was THE Spec C that was featured in Autocar in April 2003. As regards to £10k wouldn't buy your car.... Is that "wouldn't now" or "didn't"!
11 July 2010, 11:04 AM
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It sounds like you haven't got a clue what you want!
If you were just looking at STI's or WRX's from UK to JDM, then that is one thing...... but a Forester STi is a totally different vehicle.
As has been said before.... I would seriously take some cars for test drives. People can give you their opinion all day long, but until you have seen and driven different models, the opinions are subjective.
Forester STi's are cracking cars. Are JDM and use a 2.5ltr. Good for the additional space available, look great and go well. More suited to a family imo but certainly won't be no Spec C!
If you were just looking at STI's or WRX's from UK to JDM, then that is one thing...... but a Forester STi is a totally different vehicle.
As has been said before.... I would seriously take some cars for test drives. People can give you their opinion all day long, but until you have seen and driven different models, the opinions are subjective.
Forester STi's are cracking cars. Are JDM and use a 2.5ltr. Good for the additional space available, look great and go well. More suited to a family imo but certainly won't be no Spec C!
11 July 2010, 11:16 AM
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thats the thing,i like the forester but will it live up to expectations? after 3 months when the novelty wears off i dont want to be saying "wish i gone for a jdm impreza sti". back to square one i think.
1 forester sti
2 impreza jdm sti blob
3 impreza sti uk spec d
4 impreza sti type uk blob
5 sti uk impreza hawkeye(borderline budget)
6 jdm sti hawkeye (slightly over budget) but very very nice lol.
this could take some time i think.
1 forester sti
2 impreza jdm sti blob
3 impreza sti uk spec d
4 impreza sti type uk blob
5 sti uk impreza hawkeye(borderline budget)
6 jdm sti hawkeye (slightly over budget) but very very nice lol.
this could take some time i think.
11 July 2010, 11:33 AM
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Wouldn't now Shaun.
11 July 2010, 11:50 AM
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this shows that they are just about in price range. dont like the graphics but its the car im after,bloody sure of it.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classifi...1500?logcode=p
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classifi...1500?logcode=p