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Old 15 July 2010, 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
You are 100% correct in what you say .... people just want to tick it off as something they have done which makes them feel better - and there is nothing wrong with that.

It's the justifications given which drive me nuts
appreciate that pete its like myns better cause ive got so-un-so
Mind i cant really comment as ive got mods as long as my arm
Old 15 July 2010, 11:03 PM
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Is the walbro better than standard?,it's a lot louder........
Old 15 July 2010, 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by scooby1929
You are right Total Impreza is full of errors but Scoobyclinic does alot of their testing for them
As it is full of errors don't you think it's feasible that this 'fact' is another error?
Old 15 July 2010, 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirk Diggler 75
Is the walbro better than standard?,it's a lot louder........
They are slightly noisier than the standard pump especially when they are priming when the ignition is engaged.
Old 15 July 2010, 11:08 PM
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It could well be I was just stating whats in the mag!!
Old 15 July 2010, 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirk Diggler 75
Is the walbro better than standard?,it's a lot louder........
The problem is wee dont know what standard is?? They dont state what car it is from. The whole article is misleading
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Originally Posted by Cannon Fodder
They are slightly noisier than the standard pump especially when they are priming when the ignition is engaged.
Cheers mate,i think the question we all want to know is are they better or have the owners of walbro pumps been brainwashed by the hype??
Old 15 July 2010, 11:11 PM
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Thats a fair point mate
Old 15 July 2010, 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirk Diggler 75
Is the walbro better than standard?,it's a lot louder........
Define 'Better'?

Does it have a higher flow rate? YES

Does the higher flow rate actually improve anything? NO
Old 15 July 2010, 11:15 PM
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Come on Pete it is past your bedtime. Don't forget the horlicks.
Old 15 July 2010, 11:16 PM
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I'm firing on all cylinders ..
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with my standard pump
Old 15 July 2010, 11:17 PM
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Better as in Build Quality,Heavy Duty Internals Longer Life etc....
Old 15 July 2010, 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirk Diggler 75
Cheers mate,i think the question we all want to know is are they better or have the owners of walbro pumps been brainwashed by the hype??
Walbro 255lph have a much better flow rate than the standard pump and especially on a modified car are able to better supply fuel to the engine when under heavy load.

I believe that it is better to have more unused fuel returned to the tank rather than not enough supplied to the injectors when required.

Cue counter argument from you know who...
Old 15 July 2010, 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
I'm firing on all cylinders ..
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with my standard pump
Knocklink working fine??? LOL
Old 15 July 2010, 11:22 PM
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Pete,
Why spew the same mumbo jumbo as you did in the epic pump/mapping thread from earlier in the year?
Are you senile or just trolling again?
Old 15 July 2010, 11:22 PM
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Pete,
Why spew the same mumbo jumbo as you did in the epic pump/mapping thread from earlier in the year?
Are you senile or just trolling again?
Old 16 July 2010, 12:18 AM
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Chris, FFS do not join in with Pete Lewis the resident SN Bellend.

From reading his posts he seems to be a failed engineer or an oldskool engineer who does not like change, and cant accept that Subaru tuning left him behind years ago in his UK classic that in his own words can not be improved.

The whole article is misleading as Paul Blamire pointed out, Scoobyclinic may well have done the article but im sure they dont run any of their cars on a standard pump be it from a hatch or older.

These articles tend to get lost in translation and Total Impreza are well known for there bad editing, hence the comment from the guy that qoutes they cant even match the right car to the right owner let alone the specs lol.


Epic Fail for Total Impreza, not good for the enthuiasts tbh, i no longer subscribe as its full of gash info.

It would be nice to see SC put the record straight or maybe Mr lewis could do it seeing as he as a wealth of knowledge modifying scoobs LOL.
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Define 'Better'?

Does it have a higher flow rate? YES

Does the higher flow rate actually improve anything? NO
How the hell would you know your scoob was standard. So in your oldskool engineer brain a higher flow would not prevent leaning out?????


At least back your bold statements up, ive read many of your posts and you seem to be against the modified scene. Im sure if you wished you could have gone to the expense some of us go to.

Something tells me you were bullied or done up the chuff at some point by a scoobytuner

Your man Moat had issues, will we see you on the news soon
Old 16 July 2010, 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
I've always maintained, as an Engineer, that the standard pump is absolutely fine for 99.9% of applications.

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ABSOLUTELY CORRECT as long as 99.9% of the applications are STD

SORRY PETE love you loads but now your the Cocklink

Unfortunately if you were one of the MANY that paid £2000 and had PPP fitted and your engine Blew up, then you can see this thread below. And WHY an uprated Fuel pump was fitted as STD on a STi PPP up to 2005/6

https://www.scoobynet.com/drivetrain...fuel-pump.html

I had a 350bhp and STD pump Ok on a JDM for 3+ yaers and ran well but now running 405bhp and as added protection I've upgraded STD pump to a Walbro

Tony
Old 16 July 2010, 08:52 AM
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OK, so what the current thoughts are that if you are running 400BHP and above ... an uprated pump is added protection? But the standard pump is probably OK.

No-one, ever, has shown me hard evidence of what flow rates are required per BHP. And, of course, we are only talking of WOT - who the hell ever drives with WOT?
Old 16 July 2010, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
But the standard pump is probably OK.
I don't really reply to any of your posts, generally i just read and move on

But your statement above really gets my..............oh sod it, i can't be bothered

'Probably OK' WTF? not helpful mate

if you spend loads of your hard earned on tuning your car you want to make sure nothing goes wrong, so, like many others you go with what is recommended A UPRATED FUEL PUMP!

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Originally Posted by pslewis
we are only talking of WOT - who the hell ever drives with WOT?
Surely a Throttle is only a switch, either on or off!!

Tony
Old 16 July 2010, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Fodder
While we are on the subject why do Subaru fit upgraded fuel pumps to the Spec C's and other variants?
Spec C does'nt have an uprated fuel pump. It just has an anti surge kit fitted along side it. I'm sure Shaun ran over 400bhp on his oem spec c fuel pump??
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Originally Posted by apac
Spec C does'nt have an uprated fuel pump. It just has an anti surge kit fitted along side it. I'm sure Shaun ran over 400bhp on his oem spec c fuel pump??
Are you sure as when I checked with Bob Rawle as to whether to change my fuel pump I'm sure he told me that the Spec C already has an uprated pump from the factory.

Just had a look at Litchfield's online shop and they list a Spec C uprated fuel pump.

http://www.litchfieldimports.co.uk/s...product=LIE006
Old 16 July 2010, 09:21 PM
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Check out the price.........
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yay, that will please pete! an updated-standard-uprated fresh from the factory item

OMG just looked at THE price, FFS its just a plastic swirl pot type thingy-ma-bob

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Old 16 July 2010, 11:00 PM
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drats... i have 2 useless pumps... a Walbro 255 and a Bosch 044!!! :P
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i'll give you a fiver each from them
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Originally Posted by Cannon Fodder
Are you sure as when I checked with Bob Rawle as to whether to change my fuel pump I'm sure he told me that the Spec C already has an uprated pump from the factory.

Just had a look at Litchfield's online shop and they list a Spec C uprated fuel pump.

http://www.litchfieldimports.co.uk/s...product=LIE006

Fair enough, but i'm not sure if it has a higher flow rate than normal, it just has the anti surge/catch can kit fitted to it
Old 17 July 2010, 02:08 PM
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Hi,

just to clarify, we did the test for our own research, Total Impreza have used it for a small feature but it seems they have made a mistake.

They have failed to mention that the standard pump we tested was from an 09 STI hatchback.

We had carried out a 550 BHP engine/Turbo conversion and needed to see what sort of flow the standard 09 pump was capable of, whilst the test rig was out we ran the walbro 255 and its bigger brother, followed by the Tomie and finally the Bosch pump, we were surprised to see the standard MY09 pump flow better than the 255.

We did not test the standard early pump as it was not neccessay, we know they dont flow as well as the 255 from what happens on the dyno, hence their replacement on the PPP and all our power packs.

The Total Impreza article is correct in all the details re pumps and flow, the only mistake is their failure to mention the standard pump we were interested in was the 09 STI HATCHBACK.

Hope this helps clear up the topic.

cheers
Kev


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