JackClark

Steve Jobs and his team of engineers do. In fact he stated that the only difference was they put a target on their 'hotspot'.

john banks

Anandtech: http://www.anandtech.com/show/3794/t...one-4-review/2

Signal Attenuation Comparison in dB
Cupping Tightly, Holding Naturally, On an Open Palm, Holding Naturally Inside Case
iPhone 4 24.6 19.8 9.2 7.2
iPhone 3GS 14.3 1.9 0.2 3.2
HTC Nexus One 17.7 10.7 6.7 7.7

19.8 dB holding naturally is a problem when the 3GS attenuates only 1.9 dB. For some it might be worth pointing out that it is a logarithmic scale.

I'll probably still get one when it is available on three which is my preferred network for my use/area, but I would like my phone to work well in marginal/rural signal areas, whether I use a case or not.

If they alter the antenna designs I will definitely get one.

pslewis

Strange, isn't it .... I bought a Samsung phone on PAYG for £3 brand new .... and, unlike the phone for mugs, mine works!!!

I've no idea how much these iPhones cost - I just bet they are more than £29:99 - and don't even work as a phone!!!!

Ant

I can ring you off my iPhone 4 to prove it works and I'll happily tell you're a prat at that the same time.

pslewis

Make sure you hold it right though, remember what Apple says .....

1. take left arm and twist around right hand,

2. take right foot and rest on left knee,

3. crouch down so that the elbow of the right arm is touching the kerb and

4. ensure your head is touching a metal lampost - then make call

Jaybird-UK

pslewis

The ScoobyNet Apple Appreciation Society:-

Ant

If only I was that old

SwissTony

iTrader: (19)

Typical post of yours pete. Mine cost £29 and it makes calls. Now this samsung you speak of, may I ask you some questions ?

1. what is the browsing like ?
2. Is the email system okay ?
3. cut and paste ?
4. linking your contacts
5. syncing the phone with your computer , easy ?
6. open up office documents okay ?

pslewis

1. I have a specialised device to do that

2. I have a specialised device to do that

3. I have a specialised device to do that

4. Yes, it can link contacts into my phonebook

5. Why would I want to attach my phone to my PC?

6. I have a specialised device to do that

So, your i bahhhhhhh phone can do all that above ... but struggles to make calls as well as I can on my £3 Samsung - that's right, isn't it?

JackClark

Lemon's Pete, where's the picture of you sucking Lemons.

SwissTony

iTrader: (19)

Specialised device

Tech fail by pete

pslewis

I have devices which do what you list .... no need to mess about with a phone that cannot make calls but can sync with my PC

Bahhhhhh, Bahhhhhhhh ...................

SwissTony

iTrader: (19)

you still dont get it do you. Okay lets play along shall we.
Lets say I have some 'specialised devices' as you call them. Lets call one of them a sat nav, one of them a compass, one of them a nintendo ds, one of them a laptop, etc etc.

Now my iphone replaces all of them in something that can fit in my pocket.

So how much do all your devices cost + £3 for the crappy samsung ?

JackClark

I could only find the head shot Pete, the picture of the cart you pull behind you alludes me.

pslewis

You still don't get it, do you?

OK lets play a game I played as a child .... take 2 baked bean cans, attach a piece of string through the centre of both and pull tight.

You speak into one bean can and I'll listen at the other ... low and behold I can hear you - we have a good signal between ourselves.

Now, I understand that your iPhone struggles to do what the baked bean can does ... in that calls terminate randomly ... but, you say it can do e-mail, be a sat nav and sync to my PC (all items that I have in any case and are better than the iPhone at what they do)

The iPhone cannot even be used to store Baked Beans!

It's useless really, isn't it?

JackClark

Pete, stop ignoring me, where's the picture of you sucking lemons, you can use the Camera on your "Other" device to take it as I'm sure your TingTong phone camera is rubbish.

pslewis

OK, here you go ............ got Ting Tong to take it just after a nibble on a Lemon:-

http://chasingspoons.files.wordpress...vyxiffewke.jpg

I still maintain that a phone is no good if it cannot make and receive calls, even though it can connect to Geeks R Us online!

Peanuts

iTrader: (15)

And this is why you are coming across as a fanboy plank Jack.
You are literally chasing all the iSlagg-off threads and getting stroppy in one form or another.

kingofturds

iTrader: (1)

JackClark

Some people will spend their evening telling people that dog owners are stupid, some people offer assurance that the Apple products they purchased were a good choice. One negative, one positive. I'm just providing some balance and if that upsets you then you should block me.

BlkKnight

Odd vid from overseas

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn-YesqzvNk

Leslie

Good to see you again Pete.

My Ericsson phone has a small vertical aerial, less than an inch and it suffers no signal loss. If I bother to switch it on that is.

My specialised device works very well too.

Les

Devildog

Your understanding is wrong Pete . My iphone4 is excellent at making calls.

As good as any mobile phone I've used. Better than my blackberry when signal strength is marginal. Better than my wife's previous Nokia, I'd wager it's better than your £3 Samsung in like for like conditions.

That's based on personal experience, of course, rather than some attempt at sensationalism/trolling.

But then, you've been shown up, called out and generally shown to be full of excrement time and time again on this BBS, so this latest trolling attempt is no surprise

pslewis

Answer this question .... "Is there a known problem with the iPhone signal?"

I'll help you along, the answer is, "YES"

By mentioning that fact which 99% of the worlds population accept as being correct, I'm an idiot? ...... hmmmmmmmmmmm .......

pslewis

Errrrrm, no - my phone works in ALL conditions ... I don't have to hold it in a 'certain' way to make it work.

But I'm sure needing a 'special' way to make your phone work appeals to you, so, carry on - enjoy your 'special' relationship

SwissTony

iTrader: (19)

You got something right for once.

SwissTony

iTrader: (19)

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