Beginning of the end for imprezas
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So this week my renewal notice comes through from A-plan 1200 pounds, last year I payed 590. I ring them up this is the best they can do!!!!! I am 31 8 years no claims no points and I live in one of the best parts of Bradford.
So this week I have tryed to find a reasonable quote for my 2006 WRX and the best I found was around the 800 mark.
What is going on with the the Impreza as I can insure a brand new focus RS 100 pounds cheaper than I can my scoob.![Mad](images/smilies/mad.gif)
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Have insurance company's joined the Government to kill the scooby for good as the sums for owning one are starting to look real bad.
So this week I have tryed to find a reasonable quote for my 2006 WRX and the best I found was around the 800 mark.
What is going on with the the Impreza as I can insure a brand new focus RS 100 pounds cheaper than I can my scoob.
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Have insurance company's joined the Government to kill the scooby for good as the sums for owning one are starting to look real bad.
Either that or have a sex change and declare you're female
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Something wrong with your mates Scoob then because at 4am this morning a vRS tried to get away from my 230bhp V6 Cougar and couldn't. I was stopped at traffic lights and he rolled through them as they went green. Cougar only has 200lb torque. At the next lights he just sat there staring at me while I smiled sweetly back...
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I hear what everyone is saying and I don't really get why people moan about these kinda things?
I live right on the outskirts of Cheshire(yes, the crime rate is low)...I am 28 with 4 years no claims and a Bug WRX with my 27 fiance on policy...and it is £55 a month....
....I drive my bug all week for work(about 150 miles) but I have found a few 'country lane' routes into Stoke-on-Trent and the scoob just puts a smile on my face evrytime I open it up....and I have had her for over 2 years now!
When it rains.....I still get to smile.....
When it snows....I am in heaven!!!! I took the 'country routes' during the snow months and was lovin it....only saw about 3 other cars(Land Rovers) up in those hills!!!
I was driving up hills that others had abandoned on!(And I only had
Falken FK452's on)
I just love everything Subaru!!!!![Luxhello](images/smilies/luxhello.gif)
My Bug has 103k on her.....2001.....probably only worth 3k now?(if that) but I ain't planning on selling! (Bought her for 5.7k 2.5 years ago with 69k on clock)
Anyways...like I said...I love driving her and I don't mind the 27mpg(yes, thats what I get...)
...If you can't afford your Sti's...I will take them off your hands for 1k each!
I live right on the outskirts of Cheshire(yes, the crime rate is low)...I am 28 with 4 years no claims and a Bug WRX with my 27 fiance on policy...and it is £55 a month....
....I drive my bug all week for work(about 150 miles) but I have found a few 'country lane' routes into Stoke-on-Trent and the scoob just puts a smile on my face evrytime I open it up....and I have had her for over 2 years now!
When it rains.....I still get to smile.....
When it snows....I am in heaven!!!! I took the 'country routes' during the snow months and was lovin it....only saw about 3 other cars(Land Rovers) up in those hills!!!
I was driving up hills that others had abandoned on!(And I only had
Falken FK452's on)
I just love everything Subaru!!!!
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My Bug has 103k on her.....2001.....probably only worth 3k now?(if that) but I ain't planning on selling! (Bought her for 5.7k 2.5 years ago with 69k on clock)
Anyways...like I said...I love driving her and I don't mind the 27mpg(yes, thats what I get...)
...If you can't afford your Sti's...I will take them off your hands for 1k each!
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Quite happy with my Diesel A4 drive it like a **** and it still does 45mpg, wheelspin in 1st 2nd (and 3rd in the wet) and it sure aint that slow
Oh and £232 fully comp
£140 road tax
oh and 15k servicing
Oh and £232 fully comp
£140 road tax
oh and 15k servicing
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i did 3 insurance quotes thsi weekend
Chruchill
Aviva
Natwest
Im 39 with over 9 years NCB and i own a WRX-S 2009, all were 1200 aviva was 1900 so much for there ***** advert.
Im with ESURE i get FPNC for 750 a year give em atry
and im not far from you
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Chruchill
Aviva
Natwest
Im 39 with over 9 years NCB and i own a WRX-S 2009, all were 1200 aviva was 1900 so much for there ***** advert.
Im with ESURE i get FPNC for 750 a year give em atry
and im not far from you
Pudsey
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Afraid to say it's the beginning of the end of me in a scooby too.Have loved my wagon and have thrown some money at it over the years.It will make great buy for someone,but I think I've just moved on and the constant visits for v power have taken their toll.I'm just looking for the right touring M sport 335d at the mo-which is easier said than done!
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What modern turbo diesal (not supercar) is gonna beat a classic STi over 0-60 or down the 1/4?!
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At my tender years the cost of my Scooby is nothing to - married twice 7 Daugters 11 Grandchildren 1 Greatgrandaughter,I will pay what ever just for the hell of it.Ps I run diesel for work 48 mpg,Petrol for fun!!!!!
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All I can say is, "Take a Type R out and then a Type S Diesel"
That's what I did (by accident) the rest is history.
I went to buy a Type R ... seats a bit tight for my ample 4rse ... revving an engine to 8500 is barbaric IMO. Dealer said, "Try a Type S" - "We only have a Diesel"
I replied, "I will not be buying a diesel but will look at the interior and seats"
I took the Type S diesel out within 10 minutes of the Type R .... same roads, I was blown away ..... I did NOT want a diesel .... but the fun, the driveability, the turbo rush, the torque, the pull, the pull, the pull ....... the Type R didn't come close (too easy to lose revs and then have to build them all up again!)
That's what I did (by accident) the rest is history.
I went to buy a Type R ... seats a bit tight for my ample 4rse ... revving an engine to 8500 is barbaric IMO. Dealer said, "Try a Type S" - "We only have a Diesel"
I replied, "I will not be buying a diesel but will look at the interior and seats"
I took the Type S diesel out within 10 minutes of the Type R .... same roads, I was blown away ..... I did NOT want a diesel .... but the fun, the driveability, the turbo rush, the torque, the pull, the pull, the pull ....... the Type R didn't come close (too easy to lose revs and then have to build them all up again!)
And for me, the Type S is not as good as the Type R. Granted the 2.2 CDTi engine is very nice and yes there is ample torque- and 55mpg is just heavenly I know, but the feel and revs of the Type R is just something else all together. Now as you probably already know due to the peaky power delivery it doesn't give you the same low down kick you get from a turbo, but almost redlining it before each lightning shift to drop back into the powerband is just so much more fun IMO, feels like a racecar (... just could use some more torque when you're not in the mood for gunning it).
Losing revs- you're not pushing it hard enough, proper shifts and you don't drop out of the powerband.
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Same story with my friend's Astra 1.9 CDTi- I'd say thats just as quick as the Honda diesel although the delivery is a bit different, again not as fun as a revvy petrol in my eyes. The feel, sound etc is no match.
Then again, I'm still 22, so maybe I see things a little differently.
Insurance- was lucky with mine I reckon, 22 with an STi PPP and I pay just shy of 1k, fully comp in what is considered a low-risk area. I'm dreading renewal though after reading most of the above.
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Funnily enough, I've done just that- taken both out and I came to a totally different conclusion.
And for me, the Type S is not as good as the Type R. Granted the 2.2 CDTi engine is very nice and yes there is ample torque- and 55mpg is just heavenly I know, but the feel and revs of the Type R is just something else all together. Now as you probably already know due to the peaky power delivery it doesn't give you the same low down kick you get from a turbo, but almost redlining it before each lightning shift to drop back into the powerband is just so much more fun IMO, feels like a racecar (... just could use some more torque when you're not in the mood for gunning it).
Losing revs- you're not pushing it hard enough, proper shifts and you don't drop out of the powerband.
I'm a bug STi owner but I've driven a fair few of these VTECs by now and you have to change your style completely to get the best from them- not always an easy thing to do and not for everybody.
Same story with my friend's Astra 1.9 CDTi- I'd say thats just as quick as the Honda diesel although the delivery is a bit different, again not as fun as a revvy petrol in my eyes. The feel, sound etc is no match.
Then again, I'm still 22, so maybe I see things a little differently.
Insurance- was lucky with mine I reckon, 22 with an STi PPP and I pay just shy of 1k, fully comp in what is considered a low-risk area. I'm dreading renewal though after reading most of the above.
And for me, the Type S is not as good as the Type R. Granted the 2.2 CDTi engine is very nice and yes there is ample torque- and 55mpg is just heavenly I know, but the feel and revs of the Type R is just something else all together. Now as you probably already know due to the peaky power delivery it doesn't give you the same low down kick you get from a turbo, but almost redlining it before each lightning shift to drop back into the powerband is just so much more fun IMO, feels like a racecar (... just could use some more torque when you're not in the mood for gunning it).
Losing revs- you're not pushing it hard enough, proper shifts and you don't drop out of the powerband.
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Same story with my friend's Astra 1.9 CDTi- I'd say thats just as quick as the Honda diesel although the delivery is a bit different, again not as fun as a revvy petrol in my eyes. The feel, sound etc is no match.
Then again, I'm still 22, so maybe I see things a little differently.
Insurance- was lucky with mine I reckon, 22 with an STi PPP and I pay just shy of 1k, fully comp in what is considered a low-risk area. I'm dreading renewal though after reading most of the above.
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It gets on my nerves all this - my classic impreza is 11 years old for god sake - of course newer cars will be better in many ways - I would be worried if they were not. My impreza has 290 bhp / 310 ib/ft torque and am sorry but is more fun then my pervious newage Sti, my friends civic type R that I driven loads, my clio 172 cup and many other newer cars. A good classic is a bargin - spend a couple of grand on exhaust, remap, suspension (maybe 5-6 K in total - you ar all putting the impreza against new cars that cost twics as much.
You tell me how many other cars of 11 years old that are as much fun to drive. I know for a fact my impreza would have nearly most stuff on the road up to 100mph. I drive the car cus I love the sound and that fact that it won so many events.
You have all lost the reason why these cars are so good - they gave performance to the average man in the street like the cosworthe before them etc - is sad that you all dis them now you have moved on. a shame ( have stepped off soap box now)
You tell me how many other cars of 11 years old that are as much fun to drive. I know for a fact my impreza would have nearly most stuff on the road up to 100mph. I drive the car cus I love the sound and that fact that it won so many events.
You have all lost the reason why these cars are so good - they gave performance to the average man in the street like the cosworthe before them etc - is sad that you all dis them now you have moved on. a shame ( have stepped off soap box now)
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ade_sti- very true about classics being good value but the demise of the Impreza and its kind will most likely be because of the newer generation hot-hatchs tbh.
Many of the latest VXR/FRS/VW R/MPS etc sort of vehicles are starting to offer similar performance while giving lesser emisions, better economy, cheaper insurance and better practicality, leaving our rally-inspired toys a bit ordinary in the wider picture of things.
So much tuning support for the newer hot-hatches as well these days... already we're seeing threads about what were once considered top model scoobs struggling against so and so in a vauxhall lol. Unfortunately times are changing, and subaru seems like its struggling to maintain the gap.
Many of the latest VXR/FRS/VW R/MPS etc sort of vehicles are starting to offer similar performance while giving lesser emisions, better economy, cheaper insurance and better practicality, leaving our rally-inspired toys a bit ordinary in the wider picture of things.
So much tuning support for the newer hot-hatches as well these days... already we're seeing threads about what were once considered top model scoobs struggling against so and so in a vauxhall lol. Unfortunately times are changing, and subaru seems like its struggling to maintain the gap.
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It gets on my nerves all this - my classic impreza is 11 years old for god sake - of course newer cars will be better in many ways - I would be worried if they were not. My impreza has 290 bhp / 310 ib/ft torque and am sorry but is more fun then my pervious newage Sti, my friends civic type R that I driven loads, my clio 172 cup and many other newer cars. A good classic is a bargin - spend a couple of grand on exhaust, remap, suspension (maybe 5-6 K in total - you ar all putting the impreza against new cars that cost twics as much.
You tell me how many other cars of 11 years old that are as much fun to drive. I know for a fact my impreza would have nearly most stuff on the road up to 100mph. I drive the car cus I love the sound and that fact that it won so many events.
You have all lost the reason why these cars are so good - they gave performance to the average man in the street like the cosworthe before them etc - is sad that you all dis them now you have moved on. a shame ( have stepped off soap box now)
You tell me how many other cars of 11 years old that are as much fun to drive. I know for a fact my impreza would have nearly most stuff on the road up to 100mph. I drive the car cus I love the sound and that fact that it won so many events.
You have all lost the reason why these cars are so good - they gave performance to the average man in the street like the cosworthe before them etc - is sad that you all dis them now you have moved on. a shame ( have stepped off soap box now)
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Now as you probably already know due to the peaky power delivery it doesn't give you the same low down kick you get from a turbo, but almost redlining it before each lightning shift to drop back into the powerband is just so much more fun IMO, feels like a racecar (... just could use some more torque when you're not in the mood for gunning it).
Losing revs- you're not pushing it hard enough, proper shifts and you don't drop out of the powerband.
I'm a bug STi owner but I've driven a fair few of these VTECs by now and you have to change your style completely to get the best from them- not always an easy thing to do and not for everybody.
Losing revs- you're not pushing it hard enough, proper shifts and you don't drop out of the powerband.
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Last November to March maybe, but how often do we get a proper winter ? We usually get 1" of snow on one day. The same argument could be levelled that a Scoob is over-equipped from March to November having to lug around the weight of an unnecessary AWD system which affect its handling and ruins its fuel economy, and around town its excessive performance is as useful as a bikini in Iceland.