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03 August 2010, 09:32 PM
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Yellowevo must know if he has had money taken out of his account, if he has the engine belongs to him if not send £400 to yourself..........
Easy has that............
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03 August 2010, 09:43 PM
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As I have already said I have sent the money through paypal to this guy ,yes it has been sent ,yes it has been deducted from my account,I have spoken to Whylie 1 on the phone and read everydetail of the transaction from my paypal page to him and he has done same to me.No engine has been recieved here and I will check with my neighbours but I highly doubt it.If it does turn up here I will be returning it as I bought another engine last week once I knew I was getting ripped off.
The payments definately have been taken buy the same seller from both partys .
Paypal are dealing with it at the min as are my creditcard company.
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As I have already said I have sent the money through paypal to this guy ,yes it has been sent ,yes it has been deducted from my account,I have spoken to Whylie 1 on the phone and read everydetail of the transaction from my paypal page to him and he has done same to me.No engine has been recieved here and I will check with my neighbours but I highly doubt it.If it does turn up here I will be returning it as I bought another engine last week once I knew I was getting ripped off.
The payments definately have been taken buy the same seller from both partys .
Paypal are dealing with it at the min as are my creditcard company.
The payments definately have been taken buy the same seller from both partys .
Paypal are dealing with it at the min as are my creditcard company.
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he lives in isle of white but i have his address and will be going to collect my money + costs from him in person hes now txt me saying he will refund me so ill give him till weekend then im of on a hoilday i heard a story of a guy who was ripped off by some conman it was only £100 but was refused a refund and was then just ignored so this guy went set fire to his nice new car while it was still in his garage and hes never conned anyone since some may say it was a little over the top but it stoped any other people loosing there hard earned money to scumbags like this may not be a true story who knows
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he lives in isle of white but i have his address and will be going to collect my money + costs from him in person hes now txt me saying he will refund me so ill give him till weekend then im of on a hoilday i new a guy 
who was ripped off by some conman it was only £100 but was refused a refund and was then just ignored so this guy went set fire to his nice new car while it was still in his garage and hes never conned anyone since some may say it was a little over the top but it stoped any other people loosing there hard earned money to scumbags like this 
who was ripped off by some conman it was only £100 but was refused a refund and was then just ignored so this guy went set fire to his nice new car while it was still in his garage and hes never conned anyone since some may say it was a little over the top but it stoped any other people loosing there hard earned money to scumbags like this 
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I,m sure I remember another scammer supposedly living on the Isle of Wight.... was he ever traced , as im sure his address was found to be non existant. It never fails to shock me @ just how low some folk will go to rob thier fellow man
04 August 2010, 10:19 AM
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Dont jump the gun yet mate ,i used to be a special delivery(priority services) manager at royal mail and know there can be hold ups when trying to deliver parcels. I recently sent a prodrive ecu and Y pipe to a guy who lives in the czech republic .He paid £300 in to my account and i sent it through dhl (on a 5 day service),and forwarded him the tracking number. After 5 weeks he contacted me telling me he had not received it.From his point of view it must of looked dodgy,but after contacting dhl ,i found that they had tried to deliver his item ,but could not find his address(,so they could not leave a 'form' left),so i forwarded his phone number and it was sorted the following day.
If your kept up to speed with whats going on ,it aint no problem ,but when you pay quick and then have to start chasing takes the p**s.
Dont jump the gun yet mate ,i used to be a special delivery(priority services) manager at royal mail and know there can be hold ups when trying to deliver parcels. I recently sent a prodrive ecu and Y pipe to a guy who lives in the czech republic .He paid £300 in to my account and i sent it through dhl (on a 5 day service),and forwarded him the tracking number. After 5 weeks he contacted me telling me he had not received it.From his point of view it must of looked dodgy,but after contacting dhl ,i found that they had tried to deliver his item ,but could not find his address(,so they could not leave a 'form' left),so i forwarded his phone number and it was sorted the following day.
If your kept up to speed with whats going on ,it aint no problem ,but when you pay quick and then have to start chasing takes the p**s.
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Dont jump the gun yet mate ,i used to be a special delivery(priority services) manager at royal mail and know there can be hold ups when trying to deliver parcels. I recently sent a prodrive ecu and Y pipe to a guy who lives in the czech republic .He paid £300 in to my account and i sent it through dhl (on a 5 day service),and forwarded him the tracking number. After 5 weeks he contacted me telling me he had not received it.From his point of view it must of looked dodgy,but after contacting dhl ,i found that they had tried to deliver his item ,but could not find his address(,so they could not leave a 'form' left),so i forwarded his phone number and it was sorted the following day.
If your kept up to speed with whats going on ,it aint no problem ,but when you pay quick and then have to start chasing takes the p**s.
Dont jump the gun yet mate ,i used to be a special delivery(priority services) manager at royal mail and know there can be hold ups when trying to deliver parcels. I recently sent a prodrive ecu and Y pipe to a guy who lives in the czech republic .He paid £300 in to my account and i sent it through dhl (on a 5 day service),and forwarded him the tracking number. After 5 weeks he contacted me telling me he had not received it.From his point of view it must of looked dodgy,but after contacting dhl ,i found that they had tried to deliver his item ,but could not find his address(,so they could not leave a 'form' left),so i forwarded his phone number and it was sorted the following day.
If your kept up to speed with whats going on ,it aint no problem ,but when you pay quick and then have to start chasing takes the p**s.
my problem is they admit recieving my payment but say they sent it to some other guy in ireland now ive spoke to him he also said he paid 4 the engine but still hasnt recieved it even thou the seller said he didnt receive a payment from him ummmmmm
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the fact is.... YOU payed for an engine and havent received it..... everything else is just a smoke screen.....If the other guy payed for it too and hasnt received it...... you,ve BOTH been scammed...There is NO WAY a person receives money , and then sends something to ....lets face it , not the wrong house number , but a completely different place..... start sniffing the coffee guys and call the police.... ...... I do hope you both get this sorted and SOON
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heres the latest ive just spoke to the transport and they confirm that the engine was deliverd to ireland on monday at 3:35pm and was sighned for by someone called gary donoly so the sellers have been send proof of delivery from the transport company and they have now sent it to paypal and have said once the dispute with the other buyer has been sorted then they will refund me
04 August 2010, 01:06 PM
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Look guys, I am sorry you have been scammed and I hope you get it sorted but you really have been slow on the uptake.
Your relationship is with the vendor and Paypal if you used that payment means. Not with anyone else, the transport company or John Cobley in Ireland. Don't get lost in the mist. Stick with the nub of the issue. Don't get side tracked.
The transport company can provide you with information but be careful as they will be sick of all the hassle and they are not directly involved.
Now it appears you have collected enough information and on the face of it there is no doubt this was a scam and two of you have been scammed as far as you know at present. That makes it fairly serious. Instead of surmising and postulating on Scoobynet put your time into a concise statement each and then lay a complaint to the CID at your local police station. Your statement will be specific with the amount paid, for what, by what means and on what date. Your copy documentation will support and clarify this. Then list any further communications and their brief content along with the nature of communication, phone call, phone text, PM, e-mail, date and time where available.
You will be very lucky if the address you have is the correct one but it may well be. However, through Paypal the police can easily have the correct address at time of account registration and the first thing they will do is see if the scammer has a criminal record. Unfortunately you may have to be quite forceful with your local police but if it appears to be an organised scam with more than one victim it cannot be ignored. More on that later if required.
In the meantime, raise your dispute with Paypal and give all the relevant information.
However, if you were silly enough to send the payment as a gift you are on VERY thin ice and chances are Paypal will not assist you.
If your Paypal purchase is supported by your credit card that is another avenue.
Now at this point, unless the scammer has no money or hassle from the police is not a concern, he is likely to want to reach an accomodation with you. Here you have a problem because you already know his propensity for lies and a result for him will be to string you along for a day or two and at worst make a partial but small repayment.
Several observations.
Scammers know full well that after the initial anger, postulating and a couple of weeks, most people will write off the £300-£400 or lesser amounts.
Lots of people make wild statements about what they will do to the perpetrator of their misfortune, their physical well being, car, house etc. Very few actaully carry it through and scammers rely on that.
The more difficult it is to contact or reach the scammer then the less chance there is for the scammer to be brought to book. For that reason an Isle of Wight address is ideal.
Scammers have a honed sense of identifying the trusting or easy marks. Someone that can be persuaded to pay as a gift is an easy mark. Someone who is keen to buy and thinks he is one of several wanting the same item is also an easy mark and far easier to rip off.
In my experience scammers will squeal like stuffed pigs if you lay a hand on them so there is a very high risk that they point the finger at you if some evil befalls them so take this into acount. Think carefully.
This reminds me of a little bit of fun I had in Newport, South Wales. A clown tried to do me over an £88 purchase. It had been on going for two weeks, stringing it on much as above. I told him his address so there was no doubt I had found his address by some means. I told him I would call next day if the matter was not resolved. He clearly thought it was a bluff and nobody would travel from Darlington to Newport over £88. I wish I had a picture of the poor guys face when I knocked on the door, introduced myself and explained why I had come. In brief he locked himself in the house. I waited outside casually. A few minutes later I heard sirens then a police van with blue lights with three or four police followed a short while later by a further two cars, blues and twos with two police each. Wow. What had happened? Seems the clown dialed 999 for some reason. I had not threatened him in any way other than to make it clear I was not going anywhere without either £88 or the item in question. (which had been posted a week before) Anyway the matter was resolved quite satisfactorily with the police present. I had shown them proof of purchase and a communication claiming the item was posted a week before. By some sort of miracle the missing item was produced and I was able to go on my merry way but not before labouring the point that this was the item prviously posted and the police needed a serious word with the scammer, not least for abusing the 999 facility.
Poor sod did not appreciate I had business in his area anyway but I keep his e-mail address so he can act as a reference if anyone else wants to think about scamming me.
Your relationship is with the vendor and Paypal if you used that payment means. Not with anyone else, the transport company or John Cobley in Ireland. Don't get lost in the mist. Stick with the nub of the issue. Don't get side tracked.
The transport company can provide you with information but be careful as they will be sick of all the hassle and they are not directly involved.
Now it appears you have collected enough information and on the face of it there is no doubt this was a scam and two of you have been scammed as far as you know at present. That makes it fairly serious. Instead of surmising and postulating on Scoobynet put your time into a concise statement each and then lay a complaint to the CID at your local police station. Your statement will be specific with the amount paid, for what, by what means and on what date. Your copy documentation will support and clarify this. Then list any further communications and their brief content along with the nature of communication, phone call, phone text, PM, e-mail, date and time where available.
You will be very lucky if the address you have is the correct one but it may well be. However, through Paypal the police can easily have the correct address at time of account registration and the first thing they will do is see if the scammer has a criminal record. Unfortunately you may have to be quite forceful with your local police but if it appears to be an organised scam with more than one victim it cannot be ignored. More on that later if required.
In the meantime, raise your dispute with Paypal and give all the relevant information.
However, if you were silly enough to send the payment as a gift you are on VERY thin ice and chances are Paypal will not assist you.
If your Paypal purchase is supported by your credit card that is another avenue.
Now at this point, unless the scammer has no money or hassle from the police is not a concern, he is likely to want to reach an accomodation with you. Here you have a problem because you already know his propensity for lies and a result for him will be to string you along for a day or two and at worst make a partial but small repayment.
Several observations.
Scammers know full well that after the initial anger, postulating and a couple of weeks, most people will write off the £300-£400 or lesser amounts.
Lots of people make wild statements about what they will do to the perpetrator of their misfortune, their physical well being, car, house etc. Very few actaully carry it through and scammers rely on that.
The more difficult it is to contact or reach the scammer then the less chance there is for the scammer to be brought to book. For that reason an Isle of Wight address is ideal.
Scammers have a honed sense of identifying the trusting or easy marks. Someone that can be persuaded to pay as a gift is an easy mark. Someone who is keen to buy and thinks he is one of several wanting the same item is also an easy mark and far easier to rip off.
In my experience scammers will squeal like stuffed pigs if you lay a hand on them so there is a very high risk that they point the finger at you if some evil befalls them so take this into acount. Think carefully.
This reminds me of a little bit of fun I had in Newport, South Wales. A clown tried to do me over an £88 purchase. It had been on going for two weeks, stringing it on much as above. I told him his address so there was no doubt I had found his address by some means. I told him I would call next day if the matter was not resolved. He clearly thought it was a bluff and nobody would travel from Darlington to Newport over £88. I wish I had a picture of the poor guys face when I knocked on the door, introduced myself and explained why I had come. In brief he locked himself in the house. I waited outside casually. A few minutes later I heard sirens then a police van with blue lights with three or four police followed a short while later by a further two cars, blues and twos with two police each. Wow. What had happened? Seems the clown dialed 999 for some reason. I had not threatened him in any way other than to make it clear I was not going anywhere without either £88 or the item in question. (which had been posted a week before) Anyway the matter was resolved quite satisfactorily with the police present. I had shown them proof of purchase and a communication claiming the item was posted a week before. By some sort of miracle the missing item was produced and I was able to go on my merry way but not before labouring the point that this was the item prviously posted and the police needed a serious word with the scammer, not least for abusing the 999 facility.
Poor sod did not appreciate I had business in his area anyway but I keep his e-mail address so he can act as a reference if anyone else wants to think about scamming me.
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Look guys, I am sorry you have been scammed and I hope you get it sorted but you really have been slow on the uptake.
Your relationship is with the vendor and Paypal if you used that payment means. Not with anyone else, the transport company or John Cobley in Ireland. Don't get lost in the mist. Stick with the nub of the issue. Don't get side tracked.
The transport company can provide you with information but be careful as they will be sick of all the hassle and they are not directly involved.
Now it appears you have collected enough information and on the face of it there is no doubt this was a scam and two of you have been scammed as far as you know at present. That makes it fairly serious. Instead of surmising and postulating on Scoobynet put your time into a concise statement each and then lay a complaint to the CID at your local police station. Your statement will be specific with the amount paid, for what, by what means and on what date. Your copy documentation will support and clarify this. Then list any further communications and their brief content along with the nature of communication, phone call, phone text, PM, e-mail, date and time where available.
You will be very lucky if the address you have is the correct one but it may well be. However, through Paypal the police can easily have the correct address at time of account registration and the first thing they will do is see if the scammer has a criminal record. Unfortunately you may have to be quite forceful with your local police but if it appears to be an organised scam with more than one victim it cannot be ignored. More on that later if required.
In the meantime, raise your dispute with Paypal and give all the relevant information.
However, if you were silly enough to send the payment as a gift you are on VERY thin ice and chances are Paypal will not assist you.
If your Paypal purchase is supported by your credit card that is another avenue.
Now at this point, unless the scammer has no money or hassle from the police is not a concern, he is likely to want to reach an accomodation with you. Here you have a problem because you already know his propensity for lies and a result for him will be to string you along for a day or two and at worst make a partial but small repayment.
Several observations.
Scammers know full well that after the initial anger, postulating and a couple of weeks, most people will write off the £300-£400 or lesser amounts.
Lots of people make wild statements about what they will do to the perpetrator of their misfortune, their physical well being, car, house etc. Very few actaully carry it through and scammers rely on that.
The more difficult it is to contact or reach the scammer then the less chance there is for the scammer to be brought to book. For that reason an Isle of Wight address is ideal.
Scammers have a honed sense of identifying the trusting or easy marks. Someone that can be persuaded to pay as a gift is an easy mark. Someone who is keen to buy and thinks he is one of several wanting the same item is also an easy mark and far easier to rip off.
In my experience scammers will squeal like stuffed pigs if you lay a hand on them so there is a very high risk that they point the finger at you if some evil befalls them so take this into acount. Think carefully.
This reminds me of a little bit of fun I had in Newport, South Wales. A clown tried to do me over an £88 purchase. It had been on going for two weeks, stringing it on much as above. I told him his address so there was no doubt I had found his address by some means. I told him I would call next day if the matter was not resolved. He clearly thought it was a bluff and nobody would travel from Darlington to Newport over £88. I wish I had a picture of the poor guys face when I knocked on the door, introduced myself and explained why I had come. In brief he locked himself in the house. I waited outside casually. A few minutes later I heard sirens then a police van with blue lights with three or four police followed a short while later by a further two cars, blues and twos with two police each. Wow. What had happened? Seems the clown dialed 999 for some reason. I had not threatened him in any way other than to make it clear I was not going anywhere without either £88 or the item in question. (which had been posted a week before) Anyway the matter was resolved quite satisfactorily with the police present. I had shown them proof of purchase and a communication claiming the item was posted a week before. By some sort of miracle the missing item was produced and I was able to go on my merry way but not before labouring the point that this was the item prviously posted and the police needed a serious word with the scammer, not least for abusing the 999 facility.
Poor sod did not appreciate I had business in his area anyway but I keep his e-mail address so he can act as a reference if anyone else wants to think about scamming me.
Your relationship is with the vendor and Paypal if you used that payment means. Not with anyone else, the transport company or John Cobley in Ireland. Don't get lost in the mist. Stick with the nub of the issue. Don't get side tracked.
The transport company can provide you with information but be careful as they will be sick of all the hassle and they are not directly involved.
Now it appears you have collected enough information and on the face of it there is no doubt this was a scam and two of you have been scammed as far as you know at present. That makes it fairly serious. Instead of surmising and postulating on Scoobynet put your time into a concise statement each and then lay a complaint to the CID at your local police station. Your statement will be specific with the amount paid, for what, by what means and on what date. Your copy documentation will support and clarify this. Then list any further communications and their brief content along with the nature of communication, phone call, phone text, PM, e-mail, date and time where available.
You will be very lucky if the address you have is the correct one but it may well be. However, through Paypal the police can easily have the correct address at time of account registration and the first thing they will do is see if the scammer has a criminal record. Unfortunately you may have to be quite forceful with your local police but if it appears to be an organised scam with more than one victim it cannot be ignored. More on that later if required.
In the meantime, raise your dispute with Paypal and give all the relevant information.
However, if you were silly enough to send the payment as a gift you are on VERY thin ice and chances are Paypal will not assist you.
If your Paypal purchase is supported by your credit card that is another avenue.
Now at this point, unless the scammer has no money or hassle from the police is not a concern, he is likely to want to reach an accomodation with you. Here you have a problem because you already know his propensity for lies and a result for him will be to string you along for a day or two and at worst make a partial but small repayment.
Several observations.
Scammers know full well that after the initial anger, postulating and a couple of weeks, most people will write off the £300-£400 or lesser amounts.
Lots of people make wild statements about what they will do to the perpetrator of their misfortune, their physical well being, car, house etc. Very few actaully carry it through and scammers rely on that.
The more difficult it is to contact or reach the scammer then the less chance there is for the scammer to be brought to book. For that reason an Isle of Wight address is ideal.
Scammers have a honed sense of identifying the trusting or easy marks. Someone that can be persuaded to pay as a gift is an easy mark. Someone who is keen to buy and thinks he is one of several wanting the same item is also an easy mark and far easier to rip off.
In my experience scammers will squeal like stuffed pigs if you lay a hand on them so there is a very high risk that they point the finger at you if some evil befalls them so take this into acount. Think carefully.
This reminds me of a little bit of fun I had in Newport, South Wales. A clown tried to do me over an £88 purchase. It had been on going for two weeks, stringing it on much as above. I told him his address so there was no doubt I had found his address by some means. I told him I would call next day if the matter was not resolved. He clearly thought it was a bluff and nobody would travel from Darlington to Newport over £88. I wish I had a picture of the poor guys face when I knocked on the door, introduced myself and explained why I had come. In brief he locked himself in the house. I waited outside casually. A few minutes later I heard sirens then a police van with blue lights with three or four police followed a short while later by a further two cars, blues and twos with two police each. Wow. What had happened? Seems the clown dialed 999 for some reason. I had not threatened him in any way other than to make it clear I was not going anywhere without either £88 or the item in question. (which had been posted a week before) Anyway the matter was resolved quite satisfactorily with the police present. I had shown them proof of purchase and a communication claiming the item was posted a week before. By some sort of miracle the missing item was produced and I was able to go on my merry way but not before labouring the point that this was the item prviously posted and the police needed a serious word with the scammer, not least for abusing the 999 facility.
Poor sod did not appreciate I had business in his area anyway but I keep his e-mail address so he can act as a reference if anyone else wants to think about scamming me.
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