Pakistan Floods
16 August 2010, 10:31 PM
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I heard on the Beeb that World Bank are loaning $900m. That's quite a wedge, even for WB.
It will be interesting to learn what is planned for the money. Unlikely the loan will be paid back for a long time, if ever. dl
It will be interesting to learn what is planned for the money. Unlikely the loan will be paid back for a long time, if ever. dl
16 August 2010, 10:47 PM
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This thread just seems to attract vile minded retards. It's funny that none of them seem to be able to string a sentence together, use a full stop or spell.
No wonder this place is becoming like a ghost town. I would never talk or mix with such small minded people in my everyday life, and god forbid should my children have the misfortune of being in the same room as the offspring of these people.
This place has turned into the worst council estate in the country, filled with bigoted, ill informed, uneducated vermin. The sort of place I'd really not like to visit even if there are a few decent people still living there.
No wonder this place is becoming like a ghost town. I would never talk or mix with such small minded people in my everyday life, and god forbid should my children have the misfortune of being in the same room as the offspring of these people.
This place has turned into the worst council estate in the country, filled with bigoted, ill informed, uneducated vermin. The sort of place I'd really not like to visit even if there are a few decent people still living there.
16 August 2010, 11:19 PM
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This thread just seems to attract vile minded retards. It's funny that none of them seem to be able to string a sentence together, use a full stop or spell.
No wonder this place is becoming like a ghost town. I would never talk or mix with such small minded people in my everyday life, and god forbid should my children have the misfortune of being in the same room as the offspring of these people.
This place has turned into the worst council estate in the country, filled with bigoted, ill informed, uneducated vermin. The sort of place I'd really not like to visit even if there are a few decent people still living there.
No wonder this place is becoming like a ghost town. I would never talk or mix with such small minded people in my everyday life, and god forbid should my children have the misfortune of being in the same room as the offspring of these people.
This place has turned into the worst council estate in the country, filled with bigoted, ill informed, uneducated vermin. The sort of place I'd really not like to visit even if there are a few decent people still living there.
lmfao
16 August 2010, 11:42 PM
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Why give to charity? God will surely help them!
Personally I don't do charity and I certainly don't do foreign charity mainly because I don't like foreigners.
Personally I don't do charity and I certainly don't do foreign charity mainly because I don't like foreigners.
17 August 2010, 12:25 AM
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This thread just seems to attract vile minded retards. It's funny that none of them seem to be able to string a sentence together, use a full stop or spell.
No wonder this place is becoming like a ghost town. I would never talk or mix with such small minded people in my everyday life, and god forbid should my children have the misfortune of being in the same room as the offspring of these people.
This place has turned into the worst council estate in the country, filled with bigoted, ill informed, uneducated vermin. The sort of place I'd really not like to visit even if there are a few decent people still living there.
No wonder this place is becoming like a ghost town. I would never talk or mix with such small minded people in my everyday life, and god forbid should my children have the misfortune of being in the same room as the offspring of these people.
This place has turned into the worst council estate in the country, filled with bigoted, ill informed, uneducated vermin. The sort of place I'd really not like to visit even if there are a few decent people still living there.
Maybe you should hang out on pistonheads instead? The old men TVR drivers are more middle class and educated.
17 August 2010, 03:28 AM
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17 August 2010, 06:09 AM
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You should grow up and stop thinking you're some sort of superstar DJ. You're not, you're just another little kid playing with his crappy decks in his bedroom pretending his life isn't as mundane as it really is
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17 August 2010, 06:22 AM
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1) Which countries have high culture?
2) Please name some of the many 'track day weapons' that have 600 BHP twin turbo charged V8 engines.
17 August 2010, 06:31 AM
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That doesn't actually make sense.
You should grow up and stop thinking you're some sort of superstar DJ. You're not, you're just another little kid playing with his crappy decks in his bedroom pretending his life isn't as mundane as it really is
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgur...ed=0CCQQ9QEwBA
You should grow up and stop thinking you're some sort of superstar DJ. You're not, you're just another little kid playing with his crappy decks in his bedroom pretending his life isn't as mundane as it really is
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgur...ed=0CCQQ9QEwBA
Aww bless. You honestly think a response like that will see me' bite. Good sir, I'm disappointed.
I suppose me being me' is better than looking like some middle class toff with his head stuck up his ****. "Oh but I like jungle music so I can't be like that"... Ok fella, whatever you coo down from upthere
17 August 2010, 08:28 AM
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Shame this thread has descended into a personal slanging match, it is a serious subject, if you do not like what people are posting then here's a thought:
IGNORE THEM AND DO NOT RESPOND
Simple enough concept really isn't it.
Likely outcome of this p*ssing competition is that the thread will become locked if it carries on like this.
IGNORE THEM AND DO NOT RESPOND
Simple enough concept really isn't it.
Likely outcome of this p*ssing competition is that the thread will become locked if it carries on like this.
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17 August 2010, 02:37 PM
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I suppose it's a difficult one really - I mean how do you actually give a country $900M.... and what's more how do you ensure that it's actually flowed to the organisations that need it ensuring that it's spent appropriately over such a vast region.
To me it's always been a case of there's no actual way to do any of that, it's almost a case of throw a pile of money at something and hope that at some point it reaches those in desperate need.
Shouldn't this be a centrally driven and non-political solution, so in essence it should be 'owned' by the UN and the disaster managed through their professional involvement. In industry there are departments in large companies that specialise in Business Continuity or Recovery (post incident) why doesn't the UN do a similar thing by focus on preserving life?
I suppose this raises more issues than it answers as it then becomes difficult to leave once you start handing out free food, but there has to be a better way of managing these types of incident from a global perspective rather than a local one.
To me it's always been a case of there's no actual way to do any of that, it's almost a case of throw a pile of money at something and hope that at some point it reaches those in desperate need.
Shouldn't this be a centrally driven and non-political solution, so in essence it should be 'owned' by the UN and the disaster managed through their professional involvement. In industry there are departments in large companies that specialise in Business Continuity or Recovery (post incident) why doesn't the UN do a similar thing by focus on preserving life?
I suppose this raises more issues than it answers as it then becomes difficult to leave once you start handing out free food, but there has to be a better way of managing these types of incident from a global perspective rather than a local one.
17 August 2010, 02:40 PM
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17 August 2010, 02:43 PM
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I suppose it's a difficult one really - I mean how do you actually give a country $900M.... and what's more how do you ensure that it's actually flowed to the organisations that need it ensuring that it's spent appropriately over such a vast region.
To me it's always been a case of there's no actual way to do any of that, it's almost a case of throw a pile of money at something and hope that at some point it reaches those in desperate need.
Shouldn't this be a centrally driven and non-political solution, so in essence it should be 'owned' by the UN and the disaster managed through their professional involvement. In industry there are departments in large companies that specialise in Business Continuity or Recovery (post incident) why doesn't the UN do a similar thing by focus on preserving life?
I suppose this raises more issues than it answers as it then becomes difficult to leave once you start handing out free food, but there has to be a better way of managing these types of incident from a global perspective rather than a local one.
To me it's always been a case of there's no actual way to do any of that, it's almost a case of throw a pile of money at something and hope that at some point it reaches those in desperate need.
Shouldn't this be a centrally driven and non-political solution, so in essence it should be 'owned' by the UN and the disaster managed through their professional involvement. In industry there are departments in large companies that specialise in Business Continuity or Recovery (post incident) why doesn't the UN do a similar thing by focus on preserving life?
I suppose this raises more issues than it answers as it then becomes difficult to leave once you start handing out free food, but there has to be a better way of managing these types of incident from a global perspective rather than a local one.
Les
17 August 2010, 03:21 PM
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Over here when giving to charities it seems there is less corruption and the money/other aid given does generally see the target more often than not.
I hate to sound generalistic but if Pakistan received said $900 million, would there be some fat cat at the top creaming a section for themselves?
17 August 2010, 03:51 PM
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One, understandable, problem facing the donors is trying to involve the local community and not just impose terms and conditions. The IMF are the only ones who really call the shots in that department.
But the "local" involvement gives plenty of opportunity for creaming off the funds sometimes right under the noses of local donor representatives.
The banks could stop a lot of it if they weren't such greedy b,astards by refusing to transfer large sums into foreign bank accounts.
dl
But the "local" involvement gives plenty of opportunity for creaming off the funds sometimes right under the noses of local donor representatives.
The banks could stop a lot of it if they weren't such greedy b,astards by refusing to transfer large sums into foreign bank accounts.
dl
17 August 2010, 04:19 PM
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Yes Les, at least Pete does make an effort. This new idiot TDW has cornered himself about 20 times in about as many days with not even an attempt to answer.
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DCI's point about controlling how and where this aid goes is why I sometimes find myself reluctant to give (when I have the means to).
Over here when giving to charities it seems there is less corruption and the money/other aid given does generally see the target more often than not.
I hate to sound generalistic but if Pakistan received said $900 million, would there be some fat cat at the top creaming a section for themselves?
Over here when giving to charities it seems there is less corruption and the money/other aid given does generally see the target more often than not.
I hate to sound generalistic but if Pakistan received said $900 million, would there be some fat cat at the top creaming a section for themselves?
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18 August 2010, 08:48 PM
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That doesn't actually make sense.
You should grow up and stop thinking you're some sort of superstar DJ. You're not, you're just another little kid playing with his crappy decks in his bedroom pretending his life isn't as mundane as it really is
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgur...ed=0CCQQ9QEwBA
You should grow up and stop thinking you're some sort of superstar DJ. You're not, you're just another little kid playing with his crappy decks in his bedroom pretending his life isn't as mundane as it really is
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgur...ed=0CCQQ9QEwBA
19 August 2010, 10:45 AM
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A bit more in the kitty
I hear that the Asian Development Bank have now offered a $2 billion loan.
Now that's serious money and we can only hope that some of it will actually go to help the people that need it with an emphasis on technology transfer i.e. taking steps to minimise risks from the next flood. But I won't be holding my breath.
The partly corrupt government, if they believed in Christmas, must think it's come early
How on earth they are ever going to pay it back is a mystery to me (and to them I suspect).
dl
Now that's serious money and we can only hope that some of it will actually go to help the people that need it with an emphasis on technology transfer i.e. taking steps to minimise risks from the next flood. But I won't be holding my breath.
The partly corrupt government, if they believed in Christmas, must think it's come early
How on earth they are ever going to pay it back is a mystery to me (and to them I suspect).
dl
19 August 2010, 11:47 AM
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For the record it wasn't directed at you Les, as you're one of the most balanced posters on this forum IMO. Not that you'd be worried what i think
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