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Old 19 August 2010, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by andythejock01wrx
C'mon Aaron, name & shame!
Not worth the hassle Andy, it'd just turn into another snet slanging match and this thread has gone off topic enough.

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Old 19 August 2010, 10:21 PM
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Say whatever you like guys, but this is a worsening crisis of absolutely epic proportions. Millions of peoples lives are at risk right now, we should just get the aid to these people as soon as possible. We can have a good old argument about who should pay for what afterwards!

I despair at some people on here; what the hell has Pakistans nuclear program got to do with whether we should help or not? There isn't a country on this planet that could deal with a crisis of this scale (ONE FIFTH OF PAKISTAN IS CURRENTLY FLOODED!!!!) The fact that their government has made some dumb choices is hardly the fault of the citizens of that country is it? It's just a stupid smokescreen some people use to justify not helping


'Charity begins at home'.......thats a bollox excuse made by people who almost certainly don't help 'at home' either. Charity may start at home, but it doesn't feckin end there!

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Old 19 August 2010, 10:28 PM
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We don't go on holiday to Pakistan or know the barman of our favorite bar.

Therefore, we don't care.

Old 20 August 2010, 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by davyboy
We don't go on holiday to Pakistan or know the barman of our favorite bar.

Therefore, we don't care.

I have only ever been to Benidorm and in which case would only ever be interested in helping the Benidormese, they are a lovely race
Old 20 August 2010, 08:08 AM
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But my neighbour once went to Thailand and said they were lovely people, so I had no problem sending £20 to charity and joining in with the 2 mins silence at work after the Tsunami struck.
Old 20 August 2010, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by davyboy
But my neighbour once went to Thailand and said they were lovely people, so I had no problem sending £20 to charity and joining in with the 2 mins silence at work after the Tsunami struck.
I love Thai food and funnily enough our local Thai restaurant is owned by a Thai chap and the staff are Thai, what a coincidence

We where discussing this just the other night and agreed that if the Wellingborough Road ever gets flooded and they are in trouble then we would be happy to lend them some kitchen rolls and a bucket and mop!

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Old 20 August 2010, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by azz250478
I could explain them, but I think it's pretty obvious what they mean to be honest Les. It has showed what some people are really like from both sides of the argument. Am i going to name them? no because i don't really think they will change their opinions.

For the record it wasn't directed at you Les, as you're one of the most balanced posters on this forum IMO. Not that you'd be worried what i think

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All understood, thanks for the reply.

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Old 20 August 2010, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
Say whatever you like guys, but this is a worsening crisis of absolutely epic proportions. Millions of peoples lives are at risk right now, we should just get the aid to these people as soon as possible. We can have a good old argument about who should pay for what afterwards!

I despair at some people on here; what the hell has Pakistans nuclear program got to do with whether we should help or not? There isn't a country on this planet that could deal with a crisis of this scale (ONE FIFTH OF PAKISTAN IS CURRENTLY FLOODED!!!!) The fact that their government has made some dumb choices is hardly the fault of the citizens of that country is it? It's just a stupid smokescreen some people use to justify not helping


'Charity begins at home'.......thats a bollox excuse made by people who almost certainly don't help 'at home' either. Charity may start at home, but it doesn't feckin end there!
Quite right Martin.

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Old 20 August 2010, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
Say whatever you like guys, but this is a worsening crisis of absolutely epic proportions. Millions of peoples lives are at risk right now, we should just get the aid to these people as soon as possible. We can have a good old argument about who should pay for what afterwards!

I despair at some people on here; what the hell has Pakistans nuclear program got to do with whether we should help or not? There isn't a country on this planet that could deal with a crisis of this scale (ONE FIFTH OF PAKISTAN IS CURRENTLY FLOODED!!!!) The fact that their government has made some dumb choices is hardly the fault of the citizens of that country is it? It's just a stupid smokescreen some people use to justify not helping


'Charity begins at home'.......thats a bollox excuse made by people who almost certainly don't help 'at home' either. Charity may start at home, but it doesn't feckin end there!
This has all been said before on this thread Martin, it is peoples individual choice to give, as long as it is an informed choice then end of really.
Old 20 August 2010, 03:13 PM
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The Panda's at WWF got my £1 this month. The pakistani's should have got a better advert if they are looking my hard her cash.
Old 20 August 2010, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Jamz3k
The Panda's at WWF got my £1 this month. The pakistani's should have got a better advert if they are looking my hard her cash.
I didn't know they had trained Pandas to wrestle.
Old 20 August 2010, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
I didn't know they had trained Pandas to wrestle.
LMFAO!

Perhaps called the 'bamboo butcher' and when it's career is over i hear they taste like chicken

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Old 20 August 2010, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
I didn't know they had trained Pandas to wrestle.
A worthy cause
http://wwf.panda.org/

as it this
http://www.neddi.org/adopt-a-donkey/
Old 21 August 2010, 10:14 AM
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Makes for an interesting read

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-11035270
Old 21 August 2010, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Jamz3k
Don't forget to put something aside for your other worthy cause. Keeping that rust bucket going.
Old 21 August 2010, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul Habgood
Morning Paul. People will have misgivings about donating, it's natural to be dubious and sceptical given that the Government has proved itself to be incompetent and corrupt in the past. We need the various agencies and the UN itself to oversee aid distribution.
Old 21 August 2010, 11:27 AM
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Just seems to me that we should be prepared to help any country regardless if they suffer such a disaster since they are human beings after all and they should get aid without a second thought for their beliefs.

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Old 21 August 2010, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
Just seems to me that we should be prepared to help any country regardless if they suffer such a disaster since they are human beings after all and they should get aid without a second thought for their beliefs.

Les
There needs to be confidence that the monies go where needed and that the entire incident is properly coordinated before people start giving to things like this.

But (as I've said before) if it was Planet Earth Limited (i.e. a business) the first flood would've been analysed and mitigation would've been put in place for all other areas at risk of it as well. But as we're looking at things through through a microscope (country by country) it's happening time after time.
Old 21 August 2010, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
Don't forget to put something aside for your other worthy cause. Keeping that rust bucket going.
I'm not sure i would class that as such a worthy case. a bit like giving condoms to Africans as a prevention to aids, pointless.

Originally Posted by Leslie
Just seems to me that we should be prepared to help any country regardless if they suffer such a disaster since they are human beings after all and they should get aid without a second thought for their beliefs.

Les
Why is it always Great Britain, why can't some other country pick up the torch of human kindness for a change? Lets face it, if we had a natural disaster who will help us out? Australia?

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Old 21 August 2010, 01:29 PM
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Yes I agree of course as i have already said that we need to be able to trust the the aid goes to the right place and not into numbered bank accounts. Too much of that going on in the past.

You are right of course Jamz, but that should not stop what we do to help.

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Old 23 August 2010, 01:51 PM
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11057297

The generosity of the British public in helping Pakistan's flood victims is "shaming politicians around the world", the head of the Disasters Emergency Committee (DEC) has said.
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Fresh Prince of Pakistan - In downtown Pakistan, Born and Raised, In a mud hut where I spend most of my days, Chillin? out, maxin? scrapping for food, And shootin up Infidels outside of the school, When a couple of clouds, that were up to no good, Start soaking everything in my neighbourhood, We had one big flood but nobody cared, So we're all moving to England where we get free healthcare.

Sent by a friend of mine. Quite good if not wholly funny
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Originally Posted by eggy790
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11057297

The generosity of the British public in helping Pakistan's flood victims is "shaming politicians around the world", the head of the Disasters Emergency Committee (DEC) has said.
I doubt they are shamed at all, they just think we're mugs.
Old 23 August 2010, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by eggy790
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11057297

The generosity of the British public in helping Pakistan's flood victims is "shaming politicians around the world", the head of the Disasters Emergency Committee (DEC) has said.
And i do hope those who spread the hate and misery are shouted down and or change their views, stop training or giving shelter to terrorists or those who incite terrorism. 'We' give because we care about people, without religion or race being an issue!
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Originally Posted by eggy790
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11057297

The generosity of the British public in helping Pakistan's flood victims is "shaming politicians around the world", the head of the Disasters Emergency Committee (DEC) has said.
Do you really think the average politician even knows the meaning of the word shame eggy?

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Old 24 August 2010, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by eggy790
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11057297

The generosity of the British public in helping Pakistan's flood victims is "shaming politicians around the world", the head of the Disasters Emergency Committee (DEC) has said.
It is quite humbling indeed. The British public is by far and away the most generous and charitable in the world. Live Aid and Children in Need are two examples where Britain shows the way forward. Countless other appeals have also benefitted from the generosity of the Brits. We may no longer rule the waves and have a huge empire but the size of Britain's heart is bigger than ever.
Old 24 August 2010, 07:09 PM
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Britain £30m. France £800k

Not quite sure what that tells us but obviously UK has historic links with Pakistan and over there they all speak a sort of Peter Seller's English

I suspect the floods attract far more media coverage over here.

Anyway well done the UK

d
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Tells us we have a lot of Pakistanis living here, and donating.
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LOL have we just gone back to the 70s!
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