You will need the manifold, up and down pipe, oil pick up and dip stick. Not 100% certain if you need the sump too and then stick one of litchfields turbos on

 

LoL, I've been following the Litchfield twinscroll turbo thread with intrest, its what planted the twin scroll seed in my head

TBH I would weight up all the other options as well like the Lateral twin scroll version of the MD series but have not heard of anybody running one....yet!

 

so what would be the best bas car to go for? what about gearbox,clutch etc,is the sti5/6 engine tough enough for 350/400 bhp? the gearbox isnt?

 

Just out of intrest, does it make any difference not having AVCS as I know the twin scroll and AVCS seem to go hand in hand with each other.

 

I had a full 06 engine and turbo setup but the avcs was not activated and it did not seem to hinder the car performance wise. Best base car I would say would be the sti 5/6 that has already had a rebuild.

Banny

 

another issue is the fact that the car needs to be very reliable as its for every day road use.

 

I'm thinking it would also go quite well with a 2.1 stroker, it should spool relatively well with the combination of the stroker and the twin scroll together?

 

I can't see why it would make it 'unreliable' TBH all you're changing is the exhaust and turbo really, a mapper could easily work with that.

 

i wasnt saying 'unreliable' but as we all know,u start modding....things break and need upgrading ie clutch,brakes,gearbox etc etc? the standard 4 pots on a v5 sti are pants for that sort of power.wouldnt want to get done on the budget if u get me.

 

Would make a cracking combination

The things I would upgrade when doing this mod are fuel pump, injectors, larger top mount/fmic, clutch and with brakes try some decent pads and discs before changing.

 

but would the cost of a modded type r mount to the same as just buying an 06 with a remap aswell??? (by the time you have done turbo/gearbox/clutch/brakes/remap etc etc)

 

Been following this thread & I've been wondering if you went for big power in a Type R & went for a 6 speed newage box would the dccd still work in th same way?

 

when u say big power??? what would that be?

 

Well mine is sitting at a (safe??) 330bhp, so I suppose around the 350-400 mark.
In other words enough to warrant changing to a 6 speed.

 

yeah,thats what i would like,my uk 99 turbo at 315/320 was not enough,felt good at first but wanted quite a bit more really, i thought that a standard jdm twin scroll would be as quick as a 350 bhp jdm classic! how much difference is a type r to a modded uk classic?

 

is the type r alot different to a uk classic?

 

Buy a classic already done there are plenty of well sorted classics running big power say 450+ with ppg or 6 speed boxes the problem is it goes against what you say you want the car for which is for you and you partner as a well sorted classic will not be the best of both worlds

You really don't have a clue what you want do you lol and I mean no offence by that but the more questions you ask the more confused and conflicting response you get,

Seriously find a dealer close enough to you who stock jdm newage sti and book a test drive, you are not messing them around as you clearly have an interest in buying one. You can not make your mind up or go any further untill you have tried both as you are wasting you time as you may not like the twin scroll

 

Buy a classic already done there are plenty of well sorted classics running big power say 450+ with ppg or 6 speed boxes the problem is it goes against what you say you want the car for which is for you and you partner as a well sorted classic will not be the best of both worlds

You really don't have a clue what you want do you lol and I mean no offence by that but the more questions you ask the more confused and conflicting response you get,

Seriously find a dealer close enough to you who stock jdm newage sti and book a test drive, you are not messing them around as you clearly have an interest in buying one. You can not make your mind up or go any further untill you have tried both as you are wasting you time as you may not like the twin scroll

 

mate you are best off with a twin scroll jdm, better all round car and i aint biased because i dont drive one My friend has a Jdm type20 and it's a cracking motor to drive. Yeah the rawness of the classic is nice but the comforts and the improvements on the newage wins hands down for me My friends motor is going up for sale soon too

 

wont have funds for a while,how soon?what price roughly? any ideas of spec/details etc?

 

I've never driven a UK Classic but I'd assume it isn't as raw to drive dur to not having the close ratio box and DCCD.

 

Very different, But even a STi classic is whole different car to a UK classic!!! Ive had both and I would never go back to a UK car, The STi classic is so much more raw.

I started with a modded 330bhp UK turbo 2000 about 6 years ago and when I bought my near standard classic STi version 6 a couple of years ago it felt so much quicker then the UK car, I think its the whole package that the STi gives not just the power delivery but the gearing feels so different to any UK car ive driven.

Try a STi classic and see how different it drives to your UK turbo.

 

it's a 56 late with close to 50k and fssh, oil change every 5k. Its a Jdm sti with the full type20 kit from powerstation which includes AST coilovers, F&R ARB's , droplinks and ALK. It also has a full miltek system with a 100 cel fast flow sports cat panel filter and a ecutek remapped to 350/350 i believe or its close to that figure. It recently had a new clutch and full service and whats for nothing. I will also post a link where he has some picks of the car in the thread on page 2.

https://www.scoobynet.com/787002-whats-it-worth-2.html

 

it's a 56 late with close to 50k and fssh, oil change every 5k. Its a Jdm sti with the full type20 kit from powerstation which includes AST coilovers, F&R ARB's , droplinks and ALK. It also has a full miltek system with a 100 cel fast flow sports cat panel filter and a ecutek remapped to 350/350 i believe or its close to that figure. It recently had a new clutch and full service and whats for nothing. I will also post a link where he has some picks of the car in the thread on page 2.

https://www.scoobynet.com/787002-whats-it-worth-2.html

 

also IF Simon was to map this car the a lot more can be achieved as it was set up at a low/safe level for the sake of the warranty by Litchfield.

 

every time i look at that,i say,'why am i even considering a classic?' that car looks awesome.if this is around when i have the funds i will defo be interested. have u been in it?

 

i want it!

 

the mrs and i both much prefer the look and intereior of a hawkeye! i think deep down we will probably go for the hawk.

 

My previous 4 car,s were classic,s including a 300bhp Sti4 and a 330bhp MY00 Uk turbo. I bought a 350 bhp 05 jdm Sti 3 month,s ago, and in my opinion the Newage twinscroll car is much better all around and I am a staunch classic fan. Steve.

 

Well I was about 97bhp short of your mark there Tx

As for weight, a UK car is deemed to be one of the lightest classics, your average (none airconned version) weight is around 1250kg, my type R weight is around 1270-1280kg, start to modify these and all you do is add weight, wheels, brakes, gearbox, strut brace etc, and it all adds up quite quickly

Also if you look at the times that Subaru tested their cars for performance, the quickest classic as 13.3@104mph with a 4.3 sec 0-60, the first twin scroll "fat" STI's were slightly slower off the line to 60 but punched about the same 1/4 mile time, and the Spec C (17 inch version) did that 0-60 in 4.3 and 1/4 in 13 dead at 108mph, all heavier than the classics

Subaru's official times are on the net somewhere, though they were not over excited about the bug eye's performance

Much more to it that P2W Tx

Tony