Will the classic impreza become a classic?
03 February 2013, 04:55 PM
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03 February 2013, 04:59 PM
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I think it is all a perception issue. A 'classic' does not necessarily mean valuable. Would I call a Mk1 or Mk2 Golf GTI a classic? Yes I would. How about a Mk3 ... er, no I wouldn't. Why not? Becuase the Mk1 and Mk2 were iconic hot hatchbacks of their time whereas the Mk3 was just not that great. Same with the 205GTI - icon, 206? - nope!!!
Thing is like it or not the classic shape Impreza is an icon. Think of a Scoob and most people in the UK will think of the classic shape usually in the hands of Colin McRae. The fact that the new age cars may have been better is irrelevant as at the time the 'classic' Scoob was head and shoulders above the competition - affordable 4WD performance cars with a rallying heritage.
By the time the new age cars came along others had caught up.
The very fact that cars like the early Golf GTIs, 205s, Mk1 Escorts, Cossies etc. are iconic is what makes them a classic in the eyes of so many. The Scoob will go the same way. When there are no tatty ones left and only good, cared for, examples are all you see they will be classic in the same way the Cossies and Golfs are today. They may never be worth a fortune as there are a lot of them (special editions excepted), but they will engender a respect and affection with many petrolheads... owners and non-owners alike.
The newage cars will never have that.... and that isn't just me being catty... they may well be better cars, but they are not iconic. The classic Scoob is and always will be.
Thing is like it or not the classic shape Impreza is an icon. Think of a Scoob and most people in the UK will think of the classic shape usually in the hands of Colin McRae. The fact that the new age cars may have been better is irrelevant as at the time the 'classic' Scoob was head and shoulders above the competition - affordable 4WD performance cars with a rallying heritage.
By the time the new age cars came along others had caught up.
The very fact that cars like the early Golf GTIs, 205s, Mk1 Escorts, Cossies etc. are iconic is what makes them a classic in the eyes of so many. The Scoob will go the same way. When there are no tatty ones left and only good, cared for, examples are all you see they will be classic in the same way the Cossies and Golfs are today. They may never be worth a fortune as there are a lot of them (special editions excepted), but they will engender a respect and affection with many petrolheads... owners and non-owners alike.
The newage cars will never have that.... and that isn't just me being catty... they may well be better cars, but they are not iconic. The classic Scoob is and always will be.
And especially with the "special edition" newer cars, unless totally bog standard they aren't ever going to be worth it. As you go to a classic car show there are bog standard cars or near bog standard cars there, hardly any are modified. The owners try everything they can to get everything 100% original, so with the cars NOT being so iconic, and modified they never stand a chance.
Where as the original "classic" cars as long as they stay original with their bodies, with lights and bonnet matched to the real age of the car, slight modification with regards to the engine is a good thing, but again only to a certain extent.
03 February 2013, 05:11 PM
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Dead right. One of the reasons I have a complete exhaust system in the loft with delivery miles on it. Not a spot of rust on the shields. Hoping some one wanting an unmodified show car in the distant future may shell a few readies my way. Willing to wait as the loft is not full yet. Also got 924 turbo front panel up there, and parts of a 944 "Silver Rose" interior. And a refurbed set of Porsche wheels that never got fitted. The list is endless. It may be my son who benefits but the bits cost me little if anything LOL
03 February 2013, 06:41 PM
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I agree and disagree with a lot of what's already been said. I think that some of the classic Imprezas are already classics but that doesn't mean a bright green V2 with no service history that has been to the moon and back, decorated with turbo stickers and dump valve is.
We all love our cars and they will if looked after well become sought after which in essence makes them "classic cars" but not that many cars will gain true legendary status. I love my car to bits but I can't really see it receiving more than a peculiar glance at a classic car auction in 25 years time.
I've seen some of the classics such as the P1 still changing hands for five figures, and I saw a 22b recently pushing £40k. It would seem that the most recent UK model to attract a significant premium is the RB320.
I guess it will depend on the way the market and circumstance goes. A lot of older petrolheads I know are amazed at how well regarded some cars are. Is it a classic for being good? Is it a classic because of the company that built it? Or is it a classic because years after being rubbish it was featured in Back to the Future?
The Fiat 500 and original Mini were helped massively in price and status by the launch of their 21st century updates.
In ten years time Subaru might have recaptured the WRC Constructors title. Such a move would make a massive difference to prices and the perception of our cars. But then again, IM could pull the Subaru brand from the UK completely and the large number of cars would be sought after only by a few enthusiasts or people looking to go quick on the cheap.
We all love our cars and they will if looked after well become sought after which in essence makes them "classic cars" but not that many cars will gain true legendary status. I love my car to bits but I can't really see it receiving more than a peculiar glance at a classic car auction in 25 years time.
I've seen some of the classics such as the P1 still changing hands for five figures, and I saw a 22b recently pushing £40k. It would seem that the most recent UK model to attract a significant premium is the RB320.
I guess it will depend on the way the market and circumstance goes. A lot of older petrolheads I know are amazed at how well regarded some cars are. Is it a classic for being good? Is it a classic because of the company that built it? Or is it a classic because years after being rubbish it was featured in Back to the Future?
The Fiat 500 and original Mini were helped massively in price and status by the launch of their 21st century updates.
In ten years time Subaru might have recaptured the WRC Constructors title. Such a move would make a massive difference to prices and the perception of our cars. But then again, IM could pull the Subaru brand from the UK completely and the large number of cars would be sought after only by a few enthusiasts or people looking to go quick on the cheap.
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