jasey

http://old.swivel.com/data_sets/spreadsheet/1007511

Seems to suggest that "devil dogs" are more dangerous (as in they Kill more often when they attack) than Yorkshire Terriers

gallois

isn't that just natalie's opinion?

jasey

seems to be based on facts rather than 99% of the b$hit in this thread .

But yes - for all we know Natalie could be part of the vindictive campaign against fluffy the Rottie

Aaron1978

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I never said otherwise, just what is an acceptable amount of people to be killed by a dog before it as a breed is deemed dangerous?

I'm defending the breed not dangerous dogs.

In 21 years from 1989-2010 4 people have been killed by Rottweilers in the UK. Hardly a dangerous breed when there are probably 10's of thousands (i can't find any info on how many of the breed there are in the UK).

Aaron

dazdavies

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Its just dawned on me why DCI has such a problem with Rotties. One must have chewed his Action Man (although Cindy Doll is probably more accurate) when he was a kid. His life has been predominantly sad and pathetic ever since. His bitching on here is pay back

Over 11k posts in 6 years and he has the nerve to call me sad. Get out more fella or are you frightened the rotties are out to get you?

Lisawrx

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There is no point bothering mentioning this. I mentioned how our Lab attacked me and other close family until we could no longer take the risk with him and had him put down. But it was a lab, and your story was about a spaniel so it doesn't matter. It's not backing the view of only rotties being attacking or killing machines.

Put simply, no they can't.

Lisawrx

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The aim of this thread was to suggest, as a whole breed, rotties should be wiped out because some do attack. Naturally people are going to disagree with that mainly because other dogs do attack (some quite frequently but we don't hear about that as the attacks are either less severe, don't even get reported or simply don't make the headlines-not a juicy enough story)

Most people on here, from the pro-rottie camp don't do the above. What they do is have the sense to know any dog poses a risk but give their own experiences of the breed from direct knowledge. If a person has had alot of experience with a breed and never at any time over however many years seen aggression, then naturally they are going to mention that when people are claiming they are all killers. I don't think it is madness for people to bring into the equation the fact other dogs attack or even kill.

That doesn't mean they are blind to the fact rotties can be dangerous, just that the same applies to all dogs. Unlike some who are so blinded by some attacks from one breed that they are calling for the destruction of them all. That is just madness.

Leslie

I did suggest earlier in this thread that dog owners must be held responsible for their dogs and if there is a problem then the owner should expect due retribution.

Is there any reason why a dog out in public should not be muzzled so that it could not attack anyway? I see that quite often around this area and the dog does not seem to be suffering in any way. Surely that would cover all the requirements.

Les

Devildog

Christ, even the mother isn't calling for Rottweilers as a breed to be banned. And yet you persist, having given both common sense and perspective a wide berth (again)

Story in the paper today about a border collie biting a small child in the face. Does it make front page news? No. Does it make page two or three news? no. It makes page 8.

Had it been a Rottie it would have probably made the national news on BBC1.

You still haven't produced any meaningful statistics from the UK to support your assertion that the breed are inherently dangerous. To be honest, you haven't produced any evidence full stop that the breed are any more "dangerous" than numerous other breeds of dogs that don't get the same press attention. The stats that exist, many of which are highly questionable because in the UK we don't always record breed type, manage to miss out necessary supporting data like numbers of dogs, whether the dogs were specifically trained for a purpose, etc, etc, etc.

What you have done is rant away on some crusade against a breed, claiming that you were "attacked" by two. No evidence, no further info, just a claim.

Thankfully you are very much in a minority in calling for a breed ban. Thankfully sense has been seen and deed not breed is where the focus is.

If that's no conciliation to you, which I doubt it is, then perhaps some therapy to help you come to terms with your "attack" might be a more useful application of your time and effort than your one man crusade on here.

You never addressed the point about drunk drivers. Given that more children are killed by drink drivers the world over than by Rottweilers, presumably you'd agree to an alcohol ban too?

Korrosiv

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Not really they would come up with a cross breed anytime this happens.

The main argument against licences is that it would only hurt the decent owners. Only law abiding folk would pay for a licence or even apply.

DCI Gene Hunt

Having to converse with bone headed retards is making it sadder still I've yet to reach truly "pathetic".... but since you're here - what's it like?

DCI Gene Hunt

This debate has been ended, after assessing my thread and reading the pathetic posts (mostly from killer dog owners) I find in favour of me, end of.

The killer breed should be banned outright, with immediate effect and starting with Scotland and then working South... (that's downwards to you dazdavies). But I fear that the law makers in this country will do the square root of **** all.... so I await the next attack and resurrection of this thread at some future time.

Goodnight.

Aaron1978

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Nobody has said Rottweilers don't and won't kill.

Not being able to back up any of the garbage you've spouted on here with facts has meant you have given up and shown everyone what kind of person you are. This thread has made you look stupid.

Off you go with your tale between your legs, no pun intended.

Goodnight.

gallois

unless it's a docked tail, in which case, off you go with your tail stub pointing downwardsish.

DCI Gene Hunt

Nope, people reading this will see that some people really can't see their hand when holding it in front of their face.... thank you for continuing to help support my point.

Aaron1978

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You haven't made any point, and we can all see that

You made a bold statement that was easy for numerous people to prove was a quite pathetic thing to say.

Now leave with your stubb between your legs....ish

Gregsti01

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Little scenario useless son in law staying at my house,he is sat on computer smoking! my 3 yr old grandaughter falls down 4 stairs on top of my very large German Shepherd who is asleep,the dog jumps up hits my little one on the cheek with a tooth,the problem is should I put the son in law down for being a ****,ps I was not at home at the time,my dog has not got a bad bone in his body and never leave him alone with my children because they will not leave him alone

Spoon

DCI, I've read the entire thread but not bothered to comment as the subject has been covered numerous times with the same old uneducated plop being spouted by both both camps I might add. You are simply baiting. I don't believe for 1 minute you mean what you say. If you do then I am going to request a Special Needs forum that you can post in before your next meltdown, run and return.

Gregsti01

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My father was bitten by a bulldog so he went to the owners house and shot the dog with 12 gauge shot gun end of problem! it not often the dog it is the owner end off !!!! ps this was before the nanny state took over

Devildog

Based on his last post it certainly appears that way, although his head is so far up his own **** (better than Simon's I guess) that perhaps he really can't see the wood for the trees?

Either that or another breakdown is on the cards.

If he's bating it's backfired, unless he intended to look like a complete tit?

DCI Gene Hunt

Of course I don't, especially as I own a no. 3 on the most likely to kill list (that's a re-homed GSD by the way)...

DCI Gene Hunt

^^^ Issues, clearly issues

Peanuts

iTrader: (15)

By the same token, those in the "pro" camp are spouting as much tripe in counter and are equally sure that they are correct and look the same way but in the "against" camp.

The facts are thus, ANY dog can be provoked to attack and when it does so the size and strength of the dog can largely dictate the effect of that attack.
Therefore when a Rottie goes off on one the potential consequences can and have been fatal.
Not too many unrabid chihuahua attacks end in fatality.

So here's a suggestion for those in the pro rottie camp who's "Tyson" wouldn't hurt a fly....

How would you ensure that the dog's integrity as a breed is protected?
How would you ensure that there are no more devil dog attacks that end in the tragic death of a person?

Rather than quoting that your fluffy is an angel, put forward a sensible suggestion and be proactive, we cannot be expected to judge a whole breed on your wonderful dog in as much as you state we cannot judge a whole breed on the actions of those dogs that did attack...

Leslie

How much harm can a dog do if it is securely muzzled, or is that too easy an answer?

Les

Snazy

For all those preaching it is always the same dogs, and smaller dogs can't inflict the same damage,,..........

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-..._200_Stitches_

wheelwright

You can't is the simple answer, you can vet the prospective owners who may appear fine....

But what happens after a few months of ownership..is the dog roughed up and mad vicious?

OR is the dog given a loving home?

How can anyone be 100% sure of a dogs outcome?

kATERINA KATSIMPARDI

BETTER AND MORE EFFICIENT AS THEY WONT BE ABLE TO GET MORE DOGS AND WHY NOT BAN AND PUT DOWN BURGLARS AND VICIOUS HUMANS TOO? IT IS FAR MORE POSSIBLE TO BE ATTACKED BY A ROGUE HUMAN THAN BY A DOG. AND HUMANS KILL WAY MORE DOGS THAN THE OPPOSITE.

kingofturds

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HOLY CAPITAL LETTERS BATMAN!!!!!

kATERINA KATSIMPARDI

why didnt he shoot the owner? it would be much better...