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Old 01 September 2010, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
Yet 'nice' family dogs have killed for no apparent reason.
19 of them here so a reasonable sized sample-one handled by a child and yet no one was killed or seriously injured over the course of a day. How could that have happened given your opinion that so many of them are dangerous killer dogs?
Or are you talking out of your **** as stated above?

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Originally Posted by richieh
19 of them here so a reasonable sized sample-one handled by a child and yet no one was killed or seriously injured over the course of a day. How could that have happened given your opinion that so many of them are dangerous killer dogs?
Or are you talking out of your **** as stated above?

cheers richie
Yet these Dogs do kill...
Old 01 September 2010, 05:50 PM
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again you miss thee point, the majority if not all the attacks that have been rottweillers have been guard dogs, not family dogs.
Old 01 September 2010, 05:52 PM
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Going by past history, i think anyone leaving a child alone with such a dog, regardless of its character, would be pushing the child's luck!

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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
Yet these Dogs do kill...
horse riding accounts for around 10 deaths a year and around 100 rtas-are you looking to ban horses too?
Just trying to work out if you are trolling, vocalising an irrational fear or trying to present an uneducated and misinformed argument
cheers richie
Old 01 September 2010, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by richieh
horse riding accounts for around 10 deaths a year and around 100 rtas-are you looking to ban horses too?
Just trying to work out if you are trolling, vocalising an irrational fear or trying to present an uneducated and misinformed argument
cheers richie
LOL

Had a similar thought. He'e a persistant bugger if nothing else

Why don;t we have a scoobynet Rottie meet, and invite Tony along for some therapy?
Old 01 September 2010, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by richieh
horse riding accounts for around 10 deaths a year and around 100 rtas-are you looking to ban horses too?
Just trying to work out if you are trolling, vocalising an irrational fear or trying to present an uneducated and misinformed argument
cheers richie
That is a bad analogy. If I choose to ride a horse I accept the risk, otoh I don't choose to have pit bulls in my area.
Old 01 September 2010, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by richieh
horse riding accounts for around 10 deaths a year and around 100 rtas-are you looking to ban horses too?
Just trying to work out if you are trolling, vocalising an irrational fear or trying to present an uneducated and misinformed argument
cheers richie
I'm trying to remember the last time a horse attacked a child and either ripped it to pieces or mauled it within an inch of it's life.....

The classic "gun's don't kill people, people kill people" line, spouted by gun toting idiots the world over. A rottie is a weapon, simple as.... they've a track record for harm and as such should be banned. People that own them aren't ever going to support this as what else could they use to look hard .... but the simple truth is the are dangerous animals that should be banned.

Evening BTW
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Originally Posted by Leslie
Going by past history, i think anyone leaving a child alone with such a dog, regardless of its character, would be pushing the child's luck!

Les
I personally think leaving a child with any dog is a risk. It's not specific to a cerain type of dog. If we assume the majority of dogs are brought up well and not trained to attack, then you'd hope it wouldn't happen but I think generally most responsible owners wouldn't take the chance of it 'turning'. Any dog has that potential and assuming smaller dogs don't do it is a much more dangerous attitude.

We had a lab and I know we looked after him well, but he had a screw loose I think. He used to be funny when he was eating if we were nearby (but we thought we'd got that sorted with the help of a dog psycologist), until one day he bit me, just when I was in the sitting room (no food involved). Ok, nothing serious but he showed aggression and continued to do so, in the end we had to get rid of him.

The fact is, alot comes down to how a dog is raised but they are animals and there is always a risk, even with a 'nice' dog. Don't be blinded by the media, and don't be so ignorant to think the only risks come from the demonised dogs. (that comment isn't really aimed at you Les)
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The simple truth is that some people are too stupid to see that it is NOT the breed, it is the people attracted to the breed who go on to allow a damaged animal to interact with children, wilfully or otherwise. Ban the breed, and they will select another, and the problems will remain.

The answer is to regulate the owners...........No one is arguing that a powerful dog can cause a lot of damage, so potential owners should be checked, the environment the dog will live in should be checked, there should be compulsory dog / handler lessons, and finally a proper licence and insurance for the dog.
Old 01 September 2010, 07:14 PM
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Haven't had a chance to read through entire thread but have we had the picture of "my 3 month old next to Rottie" picture yet?

Usually posted by some idiot who hasn't the first idea about dogs and doesn't even realise that Rottie has been licking his **** moments before

Then when Rottie gets spooked he gives baby a friendly nip on its face "Oh he's never done that before" say parents in amazement.

dl
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Originally Posted by gallois
The simple truth is that some people are too stupid to see that it is NOT the breed, it is the people attracted to the breed who go on to allow a damaged animal to interact with children, wilfully or otherwise. Ban the breed, and they will select another, and the problems will remain.
The consequence are worse when Dogs bred to take down wild boar attack people - regardless of whether they are more predisposed to attack than another breed.
Old 01 September 2010, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by David Lock
Haven't had a chance to read through entire thread but have we had the picture of "my 3 month old next to Rottie" picture yet?

Usually posted by some idiot who hasn't the first idea about dogs and doesn't even realise that Rottie has been licking his **** moments before

Then when Rottie gets spooked he gives baby a friendly nip on its face "Oh he's never done that before" say parents in amazement.

dl
Not yet, but we have had idiot goading dog with ferret in salubrious surroundings
Old 01 September 2010, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by DCI Gene Hunt
I'm trying to remember the last time a horse attacked a child and either ripped it to pieces or mauled it within an inch of it's life.....

The classic "gun's don't kill people, people kill people" line, spouted by gun toting idiots the world over. A rottie is a weapon, simple as.... they've a track record for harm and as such should be banned. People that own them aren't ever going to support this as what else could they use to look hard .... but the simple truth is the are dangerous animals that should be banned.

Evening BTW
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How about the fox that mauled the children in their own house then?
Similar enough for you to demand a ban or all out 'war' against Mr Reynard?
Drunken idiots battering innocents-should we ban alcohol too?
Venomous animals-shall we have a massed species cull?
All dogs are 'potentially' dangerous as are cats parrots and all sorts of animals-its all about minimising risk in life-unfortunatly as humans are part of the equation there will always be problems-perhaps we should ban humans instead then we'd be fine-Oh hang on that one might not work
cheers richie
Old 01 September 2010, 07:30 PM
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The usual load of rhetoric from those that really haven't a bloody clue. Tar all Rotties with the same brush because of what the papers say.

And hunt, you really are a prize tosser!!
Old 01 September 2010, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by dazdavies
The usual load of rhetoric from those that really haven't a bloody clue. Tar all Rotties with the same brush because of what the papers say.

And hunt, you really are a prize tosser!!
Oh look.... it's Mr Well Hard ... thanks for your valuable input, now push off somewhere else you sad, sad loser
Old 01 September 2010, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ODWOC
Not yet, but we have had idiot goading dog with ferret in salubrious surroundings
No I'm stopping the ferret chasing the dog around the garden and he is trying to 'convince'(if you like) me to let the ferret down so they can play but if you knew much(or anything) about rotties you'd already have realised that.
As for "Idiot" yes well I've been called that by the intelectually moribund before
As for salubrious surroundings its a few slabs in the back garden
is yours finest wilton with throw cushions then?
cheers richie
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Originally Posted by richieh
No I'm stopping the ferret chasing the dog around the garden and he is trying to 'convince'(if you like) me to let the ferret down so they can play but if you knew much(or anything) about rotties you'd already have realised that.
As for "Idiot" yes well I've been called that by the intelectually moribund before
As for salubrious surroundings its a few slabs in the back garden
is yours finest wilton with throw cushions then?
cheers richie
So you were not actually goading the dog with the ferret, the dog was 'convincing' you to behave in such a manner?

I do believe, sir, that you are insane
Old 01 September 2010, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ODWOC
So you were not actually goading the dog with the ferret, the dog was 'convincing' you to behave in such a manner?

I do believe, sir, that you are insane
No, as I have already explained to your self(perhaps intellectually moribund was closer the mark than I realised) they were playing chase so I picked the ferret up to video the way the dog was acting towards him because It appears to the uneducated that the dog is going 'attack crazy' when in fact he his being playfull.
If it helps I could try to put into a monosylabic form but it might take a few minutes-If you let me know your level of understanding I'll do my best to help you out
cheers richie
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Our family had a Rottweiler many years before they became fashionable and it never harmed or attacked anyone, i guess we were lucky...........Or maybe it was because she wasn't dragged up!
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Originally Posted by richieh
No, as I have already explained to your self(perhaps intellectually moribund was closer the mark than I realised) they were playing chase so I picked the ferret up to video the way the dog was acting towards him because It appears to the uneducated that the dog is going 'attack crazy' when in fact he his being playfull.
OK, slow down, there is no need to become emotional. We can talk about this

<takes out pen, furrowed brow, looks 'sympathetic'>
So, they were playing 'chase', the dog and the ferret... which one 'convinced' you to film it? Was it the ferret? I understand as they can be very 'convincing', I hear

Nobody said the dog appeared 'attack crazy', this is your own perception of how the 'viewers' might interpret the scene
</takes out pen, furrowed brow, looks 'sympathetic'>

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Originally Posted by idiot
If it helps I could try to put into a monosylabic form but it might take a few minutes-If you let me know your level of understanding I'll do my best to help you out
cheers richie
That won't be necessary

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Originally Posted by ODWOC
OK, slow down, there is no need to become emotional. We can talk about this

<takes out pen, furrowed brow, looks 'sympathetic'>
So, they were playing 'chase', the dog and the ferret... which one 'convinced' you to film it? Was it the ferret? I understand as they can be very 'convincing', I hear

Nobody said the dog appeared 'attack crazy', this is your own perception of how the 'viewers' might interpret the scene
</takes out pen, furrowed brow, looks 'sympathetic'>

Lobotomy




That obviously will be necessary
As I typed previously,the dog is trying to convince-for want of a better word(hence the emphasis on the convince in my previous post) to put the ferret down so they can carry on chasing each other-nothing to do with convincing me to film Perhaps if you could read ALL the words in front of you rather than just the ones you can understand it would be easier for you to make sense of-just an idea-I hear adult literacy courses are pretty good and sympathetic these days.
cheers richie
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Originally Posted by richieh
As I typed previously,the dog is trying to convince-for want of a better word(hence the emphasis on the convince in my previous post) to put the ferret down so they can carry on chasing each other-nothing to do with convincing me to film Perhaps if you could read ALL the words in front of you rather than just the ones you can understand it would be easier for you to make sense of-just an idea-I hear adult literacy courses are pretty good and sympathetic these days.
cheers richie
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Originally Posted by richieh
19 of them here so a reasonable sized sample-one handled by a child and yet no one was killed or seriously injured over the course of a day. How could that have happened given your opinion that so many of them are dangerous killer dogs?
Or are you talking out of your **** as stated above?

cheers richie
Do you not think it's irresponsible for this group to allow a child to handle a Rottweiler when you consider the strength and size of the things? Especially since it looks like this is an outdoor/public area.

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For the record, it is the bull terriers I take exception to... I have nothing against the Rottweiler, Dobermann breeds etc.

But if it does come to it, let's hope ditzy'talktotheanimals'richie isn't the man in court making the case
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Originally Posted by Jamz3k
Do you not think its irresponsible for this group to allow a child to handle a Rottweiler when you consider the strength and size of the things? Especially since it looks like this is a outdoor/public area.
Thats actually the bottom end of someones garden-No not irresponsible, certainly statistically safer than allowing her to ride a horse-they are not that strong really unless its a 12 stone monster and they are few and far between. All these dogs are also pretty well trained tbh to the extent that there were no fights either-even between the intact males(dogs that is ).
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Originally Posted by richieh
Thats actually the bottom end of someones garden-No not irresponsible, certainly statistically safer than allowing her to ride a horse-they are not that strong really unless its a 12 stone monster and they are few and far between. All these dogs are also pretty well trained tbh to the extent that there were no fights either-even between the intact males(dogs that is ).
cheers richie
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Originally Posted by richieh
Thats actually the bottom end of someones garden-No not irresponsible, certainly statistically safer than allowing her to ride a horse-they are not that strong really unless its a 12 stone monster and they are few and far between. All these dogs are also pretty well trained tbh to the extent that there were no fights either-even between the intact males(dogs that is ).
cheers richie
I'm not sure of how strong a rottweiler is but I can remember when I was young walking my boxer dog and if he decided to do a bolter, he could rip your arm off! I always considered rottweilers to be much stronger (no real fact to base it on). I miss my boxer dogs, lovely pets whilst being completely stupid.

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Originally Posted by ODWOC
For the record, it is the bull terriers I take exception to... I have nothing against the Rottweiler, Dobermann breeds etc.

But if it does come to it, let's hope ditzy'talktotheanimals'richie isn't the man in court making the case
Ahh you were trolling then
not very good at it are you
cheers richie


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