Lisawrx

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Agreed Les.

I was devastated when my parents had our dog put down, but he had been aggressive on more than one occassion and they decided they couldn't keep taking the risk of either 'attacks' becoming worse or worse still, someone else being hurt.

Alg

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/sc...6908-22530764/

J4CKO

iTrader: (1)

I think certain breed should need to be licenced and the owners vetted and registered, that would cut out the ones who just want a "hard" looking dog, if you dont have appropriate accomodation, some kind of training/experience in handling these breeds then you dont get one, if you are a commited enthusiast with experience and somewhere to keep them where they cant get out then ok, you can have one, we have to have licences for guns as they can kill people so a Dog that can kill should also be licenced.

It does make me wonder who actually decides a Rottweiler/Staff/Akita is a good idea after all the publicity, why go there.

ScoobyWon't

Trouble is that you need responsible breeders too, who will make sure that the dogs only go to responsible owners.

Devildog

You do have an unrealisticaly simplistic view of life, I'll give you that Presumably you'll happily call for a ban on alcohol as drunk drivers kill and maim more than s handfull of children every year?

Lack of understanding is driven by the media. Owners will of course advocate that there is a lack of understanding. 15 years of experience and having been in contact with hundreds of dogs over that period may not make me an expert, but it certainly gives me a far greater knowledge and understanding of the breed than you, or the media at large has.


Says the man who presents his view as a fait a compli with such phrases as "ban them...simple as" and then you have the nerve to state that

Leslie

As ever it is a matter of personal responsibility. If you drive a car it is up to you to do it in a safe manner with respect to other people.

If you have a dog, the same applies as far as others are concerned. You must take all necessary steps to prevent any problems which the dog might create.

Simples!

Les

ritchie21

Haven't bothered to read the entire thread.

I own a seven year old male rottie called Thunder. I am a barrister, so (I hope you'd agree) not a stupid scummy owner.

Thunder is a big softy. When we were burgled in the middle of the night last year, he simply followed the burglar into the living room to try and make friends! Never tried to attack him and ran back into the kitchen (because he knows he's not allowed in the living room at night as he tries to sleep on the sofa's!) when I flew downstairs to confront the little $hit. The amount of stick we got because he didn't rip the guys throat out.....apparantly that would have been allowed! But why would he attack? He's a pet not a guard dog! You can't win!

I have a 12 year old step daughter. Four years ago, she was bitten quite badly by a springer spaniel. Penetrating bites to both arms and bites to the chest. Did that make the press? Did that have everyone up in arms? No. In fact, despite seeing Issy run the length of the street to our house covered in blood, one of our neighbours STILL blamed Thunder! The following days, I was terrified of how she'd be with him, but she wnted to be with him and I have never seen a dog more gentle in my life.

It isn't the breed, it is simply the owners. I would have no problem in having a licence or doing anything anybody required, to own my dog. But I am a responsible owner. I never leave anyone on their own with Thunder. Not because I don't trust him, but because it's important to also protect the dog. I have lost count of the number of times Thunder has been bitten by smaller dogs and not once has he ever bitten or attempted to bite back.



This is Thunder and Issy...taken very recently. As you can tell-it's true love!

wellywells

Its got nothing to do with the breed whatsover!! Having had 3 Rottweilers and every single one of them being wet drips any dog has the potential to turn!! The difference is the media just thrash down so hard against rottweilers and pitbull types but the fact is far more "small dogs" or "family dogs" that attack people go unreported!! The fact is if a rotti does something its in the news any other dog and you wouldnt be reading about it!! Anybody that has actually had the pleasure of being around these dogs will know that they are loving, loyal caring dogs and not the vicous beasts they are made out to be!!

tony de wonderful

At the very least you must admit that the consequences of pitbull attacks (for example) are far more devastating than say attacks from beagles.

These are dogs bred to be powerful and never give up.

DCI Gene Hunt

The point, which you're all gladly avoiding is that they (more often than not) come across as big floppy teddy bears (FFS) BUT they are territorial and instinct in an animal isn't something that can be controlled with a hug and a doggy biscuit..... you're buying a vicious animal that has a track record of killing and harming people and then defending the entire breed as yours "looks cute when it's sleeping"....

Ban them all now, it's a matter of time before another child is killed or maimed by one of these "oh, they're soooo cute" killers.

David Lock

Stereotyping I know but the people who want "hard" dogs tend to be at the low, thick end of society. Gang members who drive around in stolen cars, may carry weapons and deal in drugs. Do you really think they will bother to get a licence?

A first step might be to say that certain breeds need to be muzzled in public places (not sure what the law says at present but isn't it left up to the dog owner?). Even that wouldn't prevent the at home attacks though. Bit like humans wearing crash helmets on bikes, more or less universally accepted.

But I do know that if I had a phone call saying my kid had been bitten by a dog, I would rather learn that it was from a Spaniel and not a Pit Bull.

dl

Aaron1978

iTrader: (12)

How many people have been killed by Rottweilers?

Your logic means anything that is a potential danger to society should be banned

06wrx

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its not all down to the breed of dog, i have two staffordshire bull terriers another dog thats always on the news and in the papers, yes they have a bad reputation and do bite people BUT there not all bad dogs mine are as soft as sh*t ! alot of it is down to there upbringing.

i wonder how many times its been in the paper when a king charles spaniel or pug has bitten anyone ???? dont tell me that it doesnt happen because ive been bitten by a king charles spaniel myself, all dogs have the ability to attack its just when its a saffy or a rotweiler it makes the news.

New_scooby_04

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As usual with a thread on this topic: a lot of heat, but not much light....until Les posted the comment below!

Thanks, Les.

David Lock

Ah the Akitas of the Spaniel world. Did it rip you to bits

dl (King Charles owner)



At their most vicious......

dl

DCI Gene Hunt

Really? I didn't think he added much at all.... a bit like

David Lock "all war is bad "
DCI Gene Hunt "some wars can be fun and killing *****' never gets old "
Les "be nice to everyone and have no wars "

Sorry Les, but you need to man up a bit and be more controversial

06wrx

iTrader: (2)

PMSL! didnt rip me to bits BUT it did bite me ! those two of yours do look visious

David Lock

"Don't mention the war"

dl

ODWOC

Leslie lives in Hovis land...

Hawkwind

Everyone should have Greyhounds there far to busy sleeping to bite anyone

ODWOC

Leslie

Have you heard of the term "good manners" ?

I typed it slowly to make it easier for you to read!

Les

jasey

Don't be fooled by perceived temprement.

Dogs are pack animals - worth remembering no matter how cute they appear.



http://www.dogstuff.info/cocker_rage_syndrome.html.

Wife was speaking to a customer last week who was out walking her pet spaniel of 7 years. It turned on her and took off most of her knee and a small part of her face.

Apparently the rage is found in single colour spaniels

David Lock

Phew!

dl

jasey

KC Spaniels have only been known to lick people into submission

stort

You know what I hate about publicity like this is that it seems to tar the whole breed what some useless, idiotic and non responsible dog owner has done. Rottweiler are such a placid dog and I would imagine that the owner would have had to do some kind of twisted training for it to do that (especially that there appeared to be no command to attack by the owner).
If there was a rogue rottweiler on the loose, then why was it. If you have a dog who you know can be anti social then it should be any responsible owners duty to ensure the dog is pretty much under lock and key so an escape would be impossible. You dont hear of police dogs escaping the pound and savaging people do you? Could this be because the police are responsible owners?
I own a rottweiler and have two small children, aged 2 and 5. They absolutely love the dog and the dogs feelings are mutual. I have also have a cat who shes gets on well with and they even cuddle up together of a night to sleep.
Before judging the whole breed, go onto google and check these links out:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7584063.stm

It easy to report bad things because it is human nature to want to read about them, but I just wish they would print good stories about the breed aswell.

stort

I wonder how many Impreza drivers have killed or maimed people.

Does this mean we should ban Subaru Imprezas?

Leslie

Just the drivers.

Les

Leslie

Wonder why we see reports about them attacking people though!

Les

stort

This is my point, its not the dog or the cars fault for killing or maiming. It is the owners for not taking all accurate measures to ensure it doesnt happen.
Take me for example, I drive mine with greatest of care