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Old 08 September 2010 | 10:25 PM
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whats the idea of the underfloor ones on the my05 sti, do these aid downforce or just protect it, Just I noticed them when I got under to change the oil. Don't think I would take any off though they help protect from stonechips and dirt getting in the engine bay as well. Only takes a few clips when doing the service so not a real problem at all.
Old 09 September 2010 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by daz1968
whats the idea of the underfloor ones on the my05 sti, do these aid downforce or just protect it, Just I noticed them when I got under to change the oil. Don't think I would take any off though they help protect from stonechips and dirt getting in the engine bay as well. Only takes a few clips when doing the service so not a real problem at all.
+1. If it prevents rubbish from getting into the engine from under the car then in my eyes that's a good enough reason to start with.
If Litchfield, creators of the T25 say TMIC's don't work as well without it then combined, they're both healthy reasons to keep it on IMHO.

Let's be fair - it's not like you're constantly taking it off anyway, and when you do, it's a 2 minute job, so why bin it?

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Old 09 September 2010 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Bugeye_Scoob
+1. If it prevents rubbish from getting into the engine from under the car then in my eyes that's a good enough reason to start with.
If Litchfield, creators of the T25 say TMIC's don't work as well without it then combined, they're both healthy reasons to keep it on IMHO.

Let's be fair - it's not like you're constantly taking it off anyway, and when you do, it's a 2 minute job, so why bin it?
It's mostly due to heat issues particularly with non standard headers.
I'd rather leave it in place as I'm sure Subaru would no go to the trouble and cost if it was not required, but may look at either a sump guard or a sheet aluminium replacement.

Anyone fancy having a go at making one?
Old 10 September 2010 | 11:37 AM
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I run heat wrapped headers on mine and run the undertray, never had any issues with melting.
Down to common sense really, if it looks too close it will melt unless something is done to stop it, biggest issue I had was with the headers being so close to loom running under the radiator, soon cured with common sense used.
Old 10 September 2010 | 11:43 AM
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Everything has an OEM design purpose which will to a greater or lesser extent affect the car depending on how you use it. I never had one on my classic and all its good. The classic engine bay is that drafty anyway I doubt an undertray would achieve anything.

Makes more sense on the slippery newage, but on the basis that lots of people put crap copy splitters and other moulded crap on their cars which are untested for aero or cooling purposes, it's never going to be a major problem to run without.
Old 10 September 2010 | 01:56 PM
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I'm running without an undertray but only because I removed the subframe and haven't yet figured out the best way to re-attach the tray.

I noticed that without the tray, there's nothing to stop water and dirt splashing up onto the O2 sensor so my car doesn't go in the rain until the tray is back on.
Old 10 September 2010 | 02:32 PM
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not had one on mine for 4 years or so, never had problems.

as far as how it affects cooling, mmm, not seen any wind tunnel testing to prove either way, which will be the only way to tell.
Old 10 September 2010 | 02:32 PM
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my undertray is on the side of the road somewhere lol
Old 11 September 2010 | 03:52 PM
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Update to my vote of undertray in place.. I went through a flood last night, no option but to press on (very slowly I might add) and I came out the other side with a scraping sound. Stopped in a lay by and had a look under the car, turns out part of the under tray was hanging off. Think its the one protecting the gearbox and front diff, not sure though. However some guys helped me take it off and ive got half an undertray system now.
Old 13 September 2010 | 05:19 PM
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Dont like the idea of running without an undertray but know a lot of people who go without. I'm sure it must help with undercar aerodynamics, and like has already been said will stop stones and c**p getting thrown up into the engine bay so I'm keeping mine on
Old 13 September 2010 | 05:38 PM
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I brought this from USA,its GTSpec Aluminium Cooling Undertray(i hope will be fitted next months with other mods)
Old 13 September 2010 | 06:24 PM
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That looks good ^^
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Originally Posted by IainMilford
That looks good ^^


My friend brought last time this which cost 189$ from USA

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Er, any UK suppliers for the Beatrush one ?
Old 13 September 2010 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by matt-c
Er, any UK suppliers for the Beatrush one ?
Nope UK ebay seller lialle (factory) IIRC, but shipped from Japan and you will pay customs.
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Ok, thanks, I'll try contacting the eBay seller.

Anyone else want one?
Old 13 September 2010 | 08:43 PM
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Are these things toughened?? or just shiney bit to fit if your one is missing??
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Gotta be stronger than plastic, plus won't catch fire...
Old 13 September 2010 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by rookymatt
Are these things toughened?? or just shiney bit to fit if your one is missing??


I brought this due my car missing plastic under tray,and look good.Maybe get some downforce but without CFD,you never know
You will fit this on any Subaru(i think its now only for NewAge)
Old 13 September 2010 | 08:53 PM
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Good for me, sucks for classic owners
Old 13 September 2010 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by phil739
removed mine , but do have a sump gaurd for a little protection

would love one of these where can i get one
Old 29 October 2010 | 08:35 PM
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Would it be safe for me to take of my undertray to save a few lbs ??? thanks
Old 29 October 2010 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Alteredbeast
Would it be safe for me to take of my undertray to save a few lbs ??? thanks
As a weight saving measure thats gotta be up there with ,"if i have a dump before i go out,that will help".

Leave it on
Old 29 October 2010 | 08:48 PM
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I am doing other things as well or planning to, the under tray is just part off weight saving process, will only take it off, if its safe to do so...
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Unless you're losing/changing the subframe I wouldn't bother removing it
Old 29 October 2010 | 08:52 PM
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You can just about see the lip of mine in this picture

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Genuine Sti sump guard. Basically a huge piece of aluminium.

Equal lenghth and wrapped headers, no problems
Old 30 October 2010 | 10:39 AM
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Two words why my mine stays on:

gravel traps!!
Old 20 November 2010 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by phil739
removed mine , but do have a sump gaurd for a little protection

can you get guards like that for newage? i need one desperately.
Old 20 November 2010 | 06:02 PM
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Might be worth a look here: http://www.subaruwrcspares.com/29.html
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how do you find out prices on that link ian?



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