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Old 22 September 2010, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by britishbulldog
do we all agree that the dinosaurs existed? yes

do we all agree they were here long before humans?yes

so did god make the dinosaurs?yes

and to believe that "god made man in the image of himself" or whatever bobbins the bible says is imho arrogant beyond belief
why do you say that , what do you know that you aren't you telling?

waits for the answer

Old 22 September 2010, 06:12 PM
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The only arrogance I can see, is the belief that science will answer everything.
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Man made God in his own image.

Same with science!
Old 23 September 2010, 10:38 AM
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The only arrogance I can see, is the belief that science will answer everything.
Will science answer everything? Possibly not. Has it answered some things? Loads.

Religion hasn't actually answered anything......

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Old 23 September 2010, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Trout
So we live in a Christian Society and yet the general view is that the very same Society is breaking down.

It would seem to be then that teaching Christianity may not be achieving the goal of a moral society then.

Why not teach Hinduism or Buddhism - Hindu and Buddhist societies seem to have a strong moral code, particularly Buddhists.

Or why can't they just teach a good moral code and then when they are a little older to discuss how different belief systems provide the source of a good moral code.
Going a bit further with what David Lock said, because Christian values are being forgotten, it is fair to quote that as a reason for the breakdown of society.

The desertion of those values, which David Lock rightly says are a good way to teach morality, discipline,respect for others, and the need for a strong society is a loss which will be hard to counteract.

If you think about it, there has to be a believable reason to follow a moral code.

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Originally Posted by Geezer
Will science answer everything? Possibly not. Has it answered some things? Loads.

Religion hasn't actually answered anything......

Geezer
When it comes to the beginning of the world, science has given no definitive answer. It is good at producing theories that might work if they could find the evidence to prove those theories are true.

Where is the difference?

Les
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Just out of interest............does anyone think that in 2000 years if we discovered life on many other planets and galaxies etc and that we were far from alone......would it affect religious peoples views?
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Originally Posted by Fantom
Just out of interest............does anyone think that in 2000 years if we discovered life on many other planets and galaxies etc and that we were far from alone......would it affect religious peoples views?

where they come from, who made them?
Old 23 September 2010, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Fantom
Just out of interest............does anyone think that in 2000 years if we discovered life on many other planets and galaxies etc and that we were far from alone......would it affect religious peoples views?
They'll have their religion, but it'll be wrong. Therefore we must go to their planet(s) and "correct" their savage ways and teach them that our God is the one true god and they should worship our god instead.
Old 24 September 2010, 08:09 AM
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BTW He loved the harvest festival.

It was half-pagan, half Christian. The whole class wore crowns made of vegetation (very Pagan) and then sang thanks to the Lord at the Church.

Well at least he is getting a broad education
Old 24 September 2010, 08:28 AM
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Just spotted this The God Delusion - Richard Dawkins only 6p at Waterstones on Hot UK Deals.
Old 24 September 2010, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by jonc
They'll have their religion, but it'll be wrong. Therefore we must go to their planet(s) and "correct" their savage ways and teach them that our God is the one true god and they should worship our god instead.
But when we do discover life on other planets, surely they will look just like us as we are all in God's image, AND they will all speak English with American accents, AND we are unlikely to hurt ourselves as any large rocks that might fall on us will be made of polystyrene.*
















*I know - I have seen the future on a special future program called Star Trek
Old 24 September 2010, 09:01 AM
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So Trout.

What does you son think of what he has started
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Originally Posted by Trout
But when we do discover life on other planets, surely they will look just like us as we are all in God's image, AND they will all speak English with American accents, AND we are unlikely to hurt ourselves as any large rocks that might fall on us will be made of polystyrene.*

*I know - I have seen the future on a special future program called Star Trek
We will purify non-believers with our holy phasers at the stake, but I fear that this will never happen as Gene Roddenbery was an atheist. Besides, the human race is pretty primative as all this has already happened a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away......
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May the Force be with you
Old 24 September 2010, 02:48 PM
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maybe there isn't anything out there at all, apart from us?
Have we found anything out there or has anything found us?
has there ever been proof of anything (UFO) coming to earth?

apart from....



or




spoze we've had also....
Old 24 September 2010, 03:19 PM
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oh, and if you have time this artical makes a good read.

http://thesimpleanswers.com/2009/08/08/does-god-exist/

would be interested to hear a few from both sides to what you think.
Old 24 September 2010, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by salsa-king

spoze we've had also....
I forgot what a nice rack she had.
Old 24 September 2010, 03:42 PM
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shame about the face lol

but God didn't want to make everyone look like a dinosaw (lol)
Old 24 September 2010, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Fantom
Just out of interest............does anyone think that in 2000 years if we discovered life on many other planets and galaxies etc and that we were far from alone......would it affect religious peoples views?
Why on earth should it. What religion says that there cannot be other worlds as well as our own?

Les
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Originally Posted by Leslie
Why on earth should it. What religion says that there cannot be other worlds as well as our own?

Les
Because it doesn't mention anything of its existance in the Bible?

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Old 25 September 2010, 10:42 AM
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But does it say that there aren't any?

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Old 25 September 2010, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
But does it say that there aren't any?

Les
It doesn't say in the bible that it's not a great big practical joke either
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Originally Posted by Leslie
But does it say that there aren't any?

Les
It also doesn't mention who created God either. Does that mean God could have had parents?

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Who can say?

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Old 25 September 2010, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Torquemada
It doesn't say in the bible that it's not a great big practical joke either
Its a lot of writing and translating just for that though!

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Old 25 September 2010, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
Its a lot of writing and translating just for that though!

Les
Nowt wrong with a good bit of hard work to come to the desired result
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has anyone else read this yet?
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Yes, it's complete ****e, it reads like it was done by a 9 year old retard.

For example, I do not have faith god does not exist.
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Originally Posted by Leslie
I thought that the Royals paid their taxes though.

Les
Hi Les,

This story is one of the reasons I do not like the Royal Family status.

How is it possible that they would even consider that they had a right to 2% of the WHOLE budget allocated to the WHOLE of the UK to support extraordinary heating bills. Makes me sick.

Of course it was refused but they should never have asked on the beginning.

If they cannot afford to be the Royal Family then they should do what other countries have done - trade down or make it commercially viable. And if they bring in Billions as everyone says then the ability to monetise it should a piece of cake!


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