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Old 02 October 2010, 04:29 PM
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The middle picture shows the camshaft position sensor. The crank sensor is directly above the crank pully, under the alternator. Fiddly, but do-able
Your box spanner for the plugs is no good. You need a proper plug socket and a choice of extensions to get the length right. The clearance available also varies slightly from one head to the other!

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Right- sorted.

Firstly, a huge thankyou to Shepster, who kindly gave up his whole afternoon, and got dirtier than he wanted Im sure, to help me solve it.

The basic issue was that the oil lines going to the filter were the wrong way around, and have always been! Seems to have not been a problem with the old filters, but the new filters must have better one way valves. This was highlighted by cranking the engine without a filter in place!

Couple of other points for people doing this:

- The oil light will go out when cranking if there is oil pressure
- You do need a proper spark plug socket set to get them out- the box one was rubbish (as you guys said- its a 16mm)
- the engine will still turn with crank and cam sensors disconnected.

As I said, couldnt have done this without the help- very much appreciated James.

All in, it shouldnt have been this difficult, so if you are fiunding it is, check the basics (but thats hardly new)

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There usually is an answer,life is a learning curve,glad you got sorted!
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Hey Grant no worries, im glad we got it sorted Now you just need to drive it faster
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Originally Posted by fpan
You DON'T have to disconnect the crankshaft sensor. Just start the car normally and the light will go off within a few seconds!
If it was necessary the Subaru technical manual would mention this.
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Originally Posted by Grant74
Right- sorted.

The basic issue was that the oil lines going to the filter were the wrong way around, and have always been! Seems to have not been a problem with the old filters, but the new filters must have better one way valves. This was highlighted by cranking the engine without a filter in place!

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That means the oil was pumping through the centre of the filter and exiting the wrong way past the one-way valve! Assuming the filter had a valve fitted (some after market filters for the Impreza don't have one as it's not necessary with the "hang down" configuration) I'm amazed you haven't suffered bearing failure! Let's hope the previous filter was one of those after-market ones!

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My thoughts exactly, i was surprised when Grant said it had been working like that and the only thing he had changed was the filter. He's done tracks and hill climbs, hopefully with no lasting damage
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That ws an original Subaru filter, but old type.

The only plus side is that I do have a hyperactive oil pressure gauge and Im paranoid about it, so I know oil pressure has been fine at least.

Only just got a battery charger, and need to clean plugs, so will know tonight if all is genuinely well.
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Last update I hope- cleaned plugs and fired her up with full oil pressure, and even emptied the oil a little- too difficult to check levels further until its been for a gentle drive and warmed up, as dipstick tube is full of the oil that splashed up before.

I have the digital oil pressure sensor so will monitor it for a short drive, and then recheck levels.

Most of the advice on here and tips deserve a sticky! Cheers gents
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Update- oil levels are back to normal after a little draining, but oil pressure is higher than before, which I suppose I should expect!

44lbs on warm idle and 90lbs on boost- was previously 30lbs on idle and 80lbs on boost.

Do the new readings sound high?
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Originally Posted by Grant74
Update- oil levels are back to normal after a little draining, but oil pressure is higher than before, which I suppose I should expect!

44lbs on warm idle and 90lbs on boost- was previously 30lbs on idle and 80lbs on boost.

Do the new readings sound high?
You've just poured a load of very thick oil (10/60) in it so, depending on what was in it before, the pressure is bound to be higher. For road use, with an oil cooler and with winter coming on, I would have thought a 10/60 was a trifle on the thick side!

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I agree, We recommend 10or15W/40 or 10or15W/50 of a 'proper' branded oil. Either fully or semi synth.

The 10W/60 will sap power as it is too thick.

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