M3 or STI
30 September 2010 | 02:03 AM
#121
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The thing is this, there is continual mentioning of chavs etc.
The truth of the matter is that cars such as E46 M3's, RS6's and some Subaru's etc are becoming more affordable, hence the chavs start to think they can buy one with the money they made last night from selling their drugs.
This is one of the reasons I sold my M3, it was getting too common, when I had mine initially there where only 2 other E46 M3's that I knew about in my area, 10 months later I knew of 8 or so.
The problem with the above is that the chavs buy these cars with their drug money, realise the running costs are far too high, especially with the M3, then they let the cars goto the dogs, hence we end up with a lot of chaved up dogged motors which give the rest of us respectful non chavy types a bad image.
Anyway, if I was worried about image I would have bought a Bentley!
Yes, Subaru's are quite popular where I live, but nobody round here has got a 2006 Litchfield Spec C! However, my electrician has a 2004 Litchfield Type 25
And for the record, I know of at least 3 RS6's in my area, one of which I had a play with in my M3, the Audi won, but its still boring!
Not yet had the pleasure of decimating an RS6 in the Spec C! Maybe you should take a trip down to Devon scooby-tc!
The truth of the matter is that cars such as E46 M3's, RS6's and some Subaru's etc are becoming more affordable, hence the chavs start to think they can buy one with the money they made last night from selling their drugs.
This is one of the reasons I sold my M3, it was getting too common, when I had mine initially there where only 2 other E46 M3's that I knew about in my area, 10 months later I knew of 8 or so.
The problem with the above is that the chavs buy these cars with their drug money, realise the running costs are far too high, especially with the M3, then they let the cars goto the dogs, hence we end up with a lot of chaved up dogged motors which give the rest of us respectful non chavy types a bad image.
Anyway, if I was worried about image I would have bought a Bentley!
Yes, Subaru's are quite popular where I live, but nobody round here has got a 2006 Litchfield Spec C! However, my electrician has a 2004 Litchfield Type 25
And for the record, I know of at least 3 RS6's in my area, one of which I had a play with in my M3, the Audi won, but its still boring!
Not yet had the pleasure of decimating an RS6 in the Spec C! Maybe you should take a trip down to Devon scooby-tc!
30 September 2010 | 02:24 AM
#122
Well i guess we will agree to differ,I found the Spec C to be very very boring and too predictable aswell as uncomfortable and useless for motorway driving.It was ok in country lanes but then so is my fettled RS6 and i am in no doubt whatsoever that it would be equally as capable in the twisties as my STANDARD Spec C was,besides my car would be long gone before the spec c even made it to the twisties 
Nordschleife....
7:55 - 156.126 km/h – Ferrari F430 F1, 490 PS/1493 kg (sport auto 01/06), http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...ID=2&tID=67305
7:56 - 155.798 km/h - Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale, 425 PS/1387 kg (sport auto 02/04)
7:56 - 155.798 km/h - Porsche 996 Turbo, 420 PS/1569 kg (sport auto 06/00)
7:56.65 155.569 km/h – Lamborghini Gallardo SE, 520 PS/1560 kg, Tom Kristensen (AutoBild 02/06)
7:58 - 156.652 km/h - Audi RS4 4.2 V8 FSI, 420 PS/ 1650 kg, Frank Stippler, (10/05) http://www.8200rpm.com/forum/read.ph...=16841&t=16841
7:59 - 154.822 km/h - Porsche 997 Carrera S, PASM setting “Performance”, (Walter Roehrl WHEELS 06/ 2004)
7:59* - 154.822 km/h - Chevrolet C6 Z51, company test driver Dave Hill (*mfr.)
7:59 - 154.822 km/h - Nissan Skyline R33 GT-R, Dirk Schoymans (Autocar magazine 97)
7:59.41 154.690 km/h - Subaru Impreza WRX STi spec.C “prototype” (2004), www.subaru.com.hk/pdf/SNW0404.pdf
81.72 153.984 km/h - Nissan Skyline R33 GT-R, (Best Motoring video “Carrera Invasion”)
82 - 153.858 km/h - Porsche 997 Carrera S, PASM setting “Sport”, (Walter Roehrl WHEELS 06/ 04)
83 - 153.540 km/h - Porsche 911 GT3, 360 PS/1391 kg (sport auto 08/99)
84 - 153.223 km/h - Lamborghini Diablo GT, 575 PS/1620 kg (sport auto 07/00)
85 - 152.907 km/h - Ferrari 575M Maranello F1, 580 PS/1820 kg (sport auto 12/02)
85 - 152.907 km/h - Porsche 997 Carrera S, 355PS/1461kg (sport auto 05/05), http://speed.supercars.net/PitLane?v...ID=2&tID=36440
86 - 152.592 km/h - Mercedes Benz SL55 AMG (sport auto 04/02)
89 - 151.656 km/h – Audi RS4, 420 PS/1728 kg (sport auto 06/06), http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...ID=2&tID=87373
89 - 151.656 km/h - BMW M6, 507 PS/1761 kg (sport auto 12/05), http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...ID=2&tID=63338
89 - 151.656 km/h - Honda NSX-R, 320 PS/1467 kg (sport auto 08/02)
89 - 151.656 km/h - Ferrari 360 Modena , 400 PS/1464 kg (sport auto 10/99)
89 - 151.656 km/h - Lamborghini Diablo SV, 520 PS/1590 kg (sport auto 12/97)
8:10 - 151.114 km/h - Chrysler Viper GTS, 411 PS/1567 kg (sport auto 10/97)
8:10.75 151.265 km/h - Subaru Impreza WRX STi Version III sedan (1996), www.subaru.com.hk/pdf/SNW0404.pdf
8:11 - 151,274 km/h - Mitsubishi Lancer EVO IX (Best Motoring video 14)
8:11* - 151,274 km/h - Porsche Cayman S, 295 PS/1340 kg, test driver Walter Roehrl (*mfr.) (sport auto 07/05)
8:12 - 150.732 km/h - Mercedes Benz SL55 AMG, 476 PS/1651 kg (sport auto 04/02)
8:12 - 150.732 km/h - Porsche 993 Turbo (sport auto 03/97)
8:13 - 150.426 km/h - BMW M5 (E60), 507 PS/1844 kg (sport auto 12/04) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...ID=2&tID=13956
8:13 - 150.426 km/h - Lotus Esprit Sport 350, 354 PS/1324 kg (sport auto 05/99)
8:14 - 150.120 km/h - Mercedes SL 65 AMG, 612 PS/2049 kg (sport auto 01/05), http://speed.supercars.net/PitLane?v...ID=2&tID=23337
8:15 - 149.818 km/h – BMW Z4 M Roadster, 343 PS/1485 kg, http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/driven/..._roadster.html
8:15 - 149.818 km/h - Corvette C6, 404 PS/1491 kg (sport auto 08/05), http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...ID=0&tID=46738
8:15 - 149.818 km/h - Porsche 997 Carrera 2, Walter Roehrl (WHEELS 06/04)
8:16.15 149.471 km/h - Honda NSX (Best Motoring video “Carrera Invasion”)
8:17 - 149.215 km/h - Porsche 911 Carrera, 320 PS/1399 kg (sport auto 06/01)
8:18 - 149.916 km/h - Chevrolet Corvette Z05 Commemorative Edition, 344 PS (sport auto 09/2003)
8:18 - 149.916 km/h - Ferrari F355, 380 PS/1350 kg (sport auto 06/97)
8:20 - 148.320 km/h - Audi RS6, 400 PS/ 1815 kg (sport auto 03/01)
8:20 - 148.320 km/h - BMW M3 E36, 321 hp (Autocar magazine 1997)
8:20 - 148.320 km/h - Porche 993 GT3, Walter Roehrl (Car magazine 10/99)
8:22 - 147.749 km/h - BMW M3 E46, 343 PS/1584 kg (sport auto 12/00)
8:22 - 147.749 km/h - BMW M Coupe, 321 PS/1445 kg (sport auto 10/98)
8:22 - 147.749 km/h - Mercedes-Benz C55 (sport auto07/2004)
8:22.38 147.617 km/h - Nissan Skyline R32 GTR (Best Motoring video
30 September 2010 | 11:32 AM
#123
Have a look at the GT3 (I think). It has two variable vane turbos which, until recently were only used to give diesels that mental performance we see today. Petrol engines couldn't use them because the technology was destroyed by the higher temps of petrol, however Porsche seem to have cracked it. What we have is a turbo that spools faster and earlier than it should for it's size but still has all it's top end and the GT3 has two of them! Kind of like VANOS for turbos
Old man runs a 997TT and the spool is unreal- there is ZERO lag....
I was running in 6th in a 40 zone (roadworks) road opened up again and I put my foot down forgetting what gear I was in and in an instant I was sat at...well...I'll say the speed limit but you get the point. This variable vain thing better catch on to other cars as it is awesome.
Be very interesting to compare to a GTR but I don't know anybody who has one.... :-(
The E46 M3's do have a bit of an image problem around here (more so than the newage impreza owners) there are a lot of little @rsholes getting their hands on them now they are falling in price....I would describe them as either wanabe PIMPS or "wideboyz" ...... who see them as unbeatable and drive, partol and clog up roads with an air of arrogance I have never witnessed before.
30 September 2010 | 02:44 PM
#124
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Really....
Nordschleife....
7:55 - 156.126 km/h – Ferrari F430 F1, 490 PS/1493 kg (sport auto 01/06), http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...ID=2&tID=67305
7:56 - 155.798 km/h - Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale, 425 PS/1387 kg (sport auto 02/04)
7:56 - 155.798 km/h - Porsche 996 Turbo, 420 PS/1569 kg (sport auto 06/00)
7:56.65 155.569 km/h – Lamborghini Gallardo SE, 520 PS/1560 kg, Tom Kristensen (AutoBild 02/06)
7:58 - 156.652 km/h - Audi RS4 4.2 V8 FSI, 420 PS/ 1650 kg, Frank Stippler, (10/05) http://www.8200rpm.com/forum/read.ph...=16841&t=16841
7:59 - 154.822 km/h - Porsche 997 Carrera S, PASM setting “Performance”, (Walter Roehrl WHEELS 06/ 2004)
7:59* - 154.822 km/h - Chevrolet C6 Z51, company test driver Dave Hill (*mfr.)
7:59 - 154.822 km/h - Nissan Skyline R33 GT-R, Dirk Schoymans (Autocar magazine 97)
7:59.41 154.690 km/h - Subaru Impreza WRX STi spec.C “prototype” (2004), www.subaru.com.hk/pdf/SNW0404.pdf
81.72 153.984 km/h - Nissan Skyline R33 GT-R, (Best Motoring video “Carrera Invasion”)
82 - 153.858 km/h - Porsche 997 Carrera S, PASM setting “Sport”, (Walter Roehrl WHEELS 06/ 04)
83 - 153.540 km/h - Porsche 911 GT3, 360 PS/1391 kg (sport auto 08/99)
84 - 153.223 km/h - Lamborghini Diablo GT, 575 PS/1620 kg (sport auto 07/00)
85 - 152.907 km/h - Ferrari 575M Maranello F1, 580 PS/1820 kg (sport auto 12/02)
85 - 152.907 km/h - Porsche 997 Carrera S, 355PS/1461kg (sport auto 05/05), http://speed.supercars.net/PitLane?v...ID=2&tID=36440
86 - 152.592 km/h - Mercedes Benz SL55 AMG (sport auto 04/02)
89 - 151.656 km/h – Audi RS4, 420 PS/1728 kg (sport auto 06/06), http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...ID=2&tID=87373
89 - 151.656 km/h - BMW M6, 507 PS/1761 kg (sport auto 12/05), http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...ID=2&tID=63338
89 - 151.656 km/h - Honda NSX-R, 320 PS/1467 kg (sport auto 08/02)
89 - 151.656 km/h - Ferrari 360 Modena , 400 PS/1464 kg (sport auto 10/99)
89 - 151.656 km/h - Lamborghini Diablo SV, 520 PS/1590 kg (sport auto 12/97)
8:10 - 151.114 km/h - Chrysler Viper GTS, 411 PS/1567 kg (sport auto 10/97)
8:10.75 151.265 km/h - Subaru Impreza WRX STi Version III sedan (1996), www.subaru.com.hk/pdf/SNW0404.pdf
8:11 - 151,274 km/h - Mitsubishi Lancer EVO IX (Best Motoring video 14)
8:11* - 151,274 km/h - Porsche Cayman S, 295 PS/1340 kg, test driver Walter Roehrl (*mfr.) (sport auto 07/05)
8:12 - 150.732 km/h - Mercedes Benz SL55 AMG, 476 PS/1651 kg (sport auto 04/02)
8:12 - 150.732 km/h - Porsche 993 Turbo (sport auto 03/97)
8:13 - 150.426 km/h - BMW M5 (E60), 507 PS/1844 kg (sport auto 12/04) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...ID=2&tID=13956
8:13 - 150.426 km/h - Lotus Esprit Sport 350, 354 PS/1324 kg (sport auto 05/99)
8:14 - 150.120 km/h - Mercedes SL 65 AMG, 612 PS/2049 kg (sport auto 01/05), http://speed.supercars.net/PitLane?v...ID=2&tID=23337
8:15 - 149.818 km/h – BMW Z4 M Roadster, 343 PS/1485 kg, http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/driven/..._roadster.html
8:15 - 149.818 km/h - Corvette C6, 404 PS/1491 kg (sport auto 08/05), http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...ID=0&tID=46738
8:15 - 149.818 km/h - Porsche 997 Carrera 2, Walter Roehrl (WHEELS 06/04)
8:16.15 149.471 km/h - Honda NSX (Best Motoring video “Carrera Invasion”)
8:17 - 149.215 km/h - Porsche 911 Carrera, 320 PS/1399 kg (sport auto 06/01)
8:18 - 149.916 km/h - Chevrolet Corvette Z05 Commemorative Edition, 344 PS (sport auto 09/2003)
8:18 - 149.916 km/h - Ferrari F355, 380 PS/1350 kg (sport auto 06/97)
8:20 - 148.320 km/h - Audi RS6, 400 PS/ 1815 kg (sport auto 03/01)
8:20 - 148.320 km/h - BMW M3 E36, 321 hp (Autocar magazine 1997)
8:20 - 148.320 km/h - Porche 993 GT3, Walter Roehrl (Car magazine 10/99)
8:22 - 147.749 km/h - BMW M3 E46, 343 PS/1584 kg (sport auto 12/00)
8:22 - 147.749 km/h - BMW M Coupe, 321 PS/1445 kg (sport auto 10/98)
8:22 - 147.749 km/h - Mercedes-Benz C55 (sport auto07/2004)
8:22.38 147.617 km/h - Nissan Skyline R32 GTR (Best Motoring video
Nordschleife....
7:55 - 156.126 km/h – Ferrari F430 F1, 490 PS/1493 kg (sport auto 01/06), http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...ID=2&tID=67305
7:56 - 155.798 km/h - Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale, 425 PS/1387 kg (sport auto 02/04)
7:56 - 155.798 km/h - Porsche 996 Turbo, 420 PS/1569 kg (sport auto 06/00)
7:56.65 155.569 km/h – Lamborghini Gallardo SE, 520 PS/1560 kg, Tom Kristensen (AutoBild 02/06)
7:58 - 156.652 km/h - Audi RS4 4.2 V8 FSI, 420 PS/ 1650 kg, Frank Stippler, (10/05) http://www.8200rpm.com/forum/read.ph...=16841&t=16841
7:59 - 154.822 km/h - Porsche 997 Carrera S, PASM setting “Performance”, (Walter Roehrl WHEELS 06/ 2004)
7:59* - 154.822 km/h - Chevrolet C6 Z51, company test driver Dave Hill (*mfr.)
7:59 - 154.822 km/h - Nissan Skyline R33 GT-R, Dirk Schoymans (Autocar magazine 97)
7:59.41 154.690 km/h - Subaru Impreza WRX STi spec.C “prototype” (2004), www.subaru.com.hk/pdf/SNW0404.pdf
81.72 153.984 km/h - Nissan Skyline R33 GT-R, (Best Motoring video “Carrera Invasion”)
82 - 153.858 km/h - Porsche 997 Carrera S, PASM setting “Sport”, (Walter Roehrl WHEELS 06/ 04)
83 - 153.540 km/h - Porsche 911 GT3, 360 PS/1391 kg (sport auto 08/99)
84 - 153.223 km/h - Lamborghini Diablo GT, 575 PS/1620 kg (sport auto 07/00)
85 - 152.907 km/h - Ferrari 575M Maranello F1, 580 PS/1820 kg (sport auto 12/02)
85 - 152.907 km/h - Porsche 997 Carrera S, 355PS/1461kg (sport auto 05/05), http://speed.supercars.net/PitLane?v...ID=2&tID=36440
86 - 152.592 km/h - Mercedes Benz SL55 AMG (sport auto 04/02)
89 - 151.656 km/h – Audi RS4, 420 PS/1728 kg (sport auto 06/06), http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...ID=2&tID=87373
89 - 151.656 km/h - BMW M6, 507 PS/1761 kg (sport auto 12/05), http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...ID=2&tID=63338
89 - 151.656 km/h - Honda NSX-R, 320 PS/1467 kg (sport auto 08/02)
89 - 151.656 km/h - Ferrari 360 Modena , 400 PS/1464 kg (sport auto 10/99)
89 - 151.656 km/h - Lamborghini Diablo SV, 520 PS/1590 kg (sport auto 12/97)
8:10 - 151.114 km/h - Chrysler Viper GTS, 411 PS/1567 kg (sport auto 10/97)
8:10.75 151.265 km/h - Subaru Impreza WRX STi Version III sedan (1996), www.subaru.com.hk/pdf/SNW0404.pdf
8:11 - 151,274 km/h - Mitsubishi Lancer EVO IX (Best Motoring video 14)
8:11* - 151,274 km/h - Porsche Cayman S, 295 PS/1340 kg, test driver Walter Roehrl (*mfr.) (sport auto 07/05)
8:12 - 150.732 km/h - Mercedes Benz SL55 AMG, 476 PS/1651 kg (sport auto 04/02)
8:12 - 150.732 km/h - Porsche 993 Turbo (sport auto 03/97)
8:13 - 150.426 km/h - BMW M5 (E60), 507 PS/1844 kg (sport auto 12/04) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...ID=2&tID=13956
8:13 - 150.426 km/h - Lotus Esprit Sport 350, 354 PS/1324 kg (sport auto 05/99)
8:14 - 150.120 km/h - Mercedes SL 65 AMG, 612 PS/2049 kg (sport auto 01/05), http://speed.supercars.net/PitLane?v...ID=2&tID=23337
8:15 - 149.818 km/h – BMW Z4 M Roadster, 343 PS/1485 kg, http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/driven/..._roadster.html
8:15 - 149.818 km/h - Corvette C6, 404 PS/1491 kg (sport auto 08/05), http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...ID=0&tID=46738
8:15 - 149.818 km/h - Porsche 997 Carrera 2, Walter Roehrl (WHEELS 06/04)
8:16.15 149.471 km/h - Honda NSX (Best Motoring video “Carrera Invasion”)
8:17 - 149.215 km/h - Porsche 911 Carrera, 320 PS/1399 kg (sport auto 06/01)
8:18 - 149.916 km/h - Chevrolet Corvette Z05 Commemorative Edition, 344 PS (sport auto 09/2003)
8:18 - 149.916 km/h - Ferrari F355, 380 PS/1350 kg (sport auto 06/97)
8:20 - 148.320 km/h - Audi RS6, 400 PS/ 1815 kg (sport auto 03/01)
8:20 - 148.320 km/h - BMW M3 E36, 321 hp (Autocar magazine 1997)
8:20 - 148.320 km/h - Porche 993 GT3, Walter Roehrl (Car magazine 10/99)
8:22 - 147.749 km/h - BMW M3 E46, 343 PS/1584 kg (sport auto 12/00)
8:22 - 147.749 km/h - BMW M Coupe, 321 PS/1445 kg (sport auto 10/98)
8:22 - 147.749 km/h - Mercedes-Benz C55 (sport auto07/2004)
8:22.38 147.617 km/h - Nissan Skyline R32 GTR (Best Motoring video
7:55.00 - 2011 Subaru Impreza STI
http://www.autospies.com/news/2011-S...d-Video-54981/
But above that would be:
7:50 --- 157.787 km/h -- BMW E46 M3 CSL, 360 PS/1421 kg (sport auto 08/03) - Doesn't change the fact that one tried to take me off the lights and failed. Teach him to try the wrong lane...
But above THAT would be
4:48 --- 2007 BMW M3 GTS
30 September 2010 | 08:41 PM
#125
And the RS6 was 8.20.... So u need a very long straight to give a run for its money to a spec c .I like audis and beemers, but at the moment a classic does everything i need for me. It might be not faster then all big power cars, but at least it makes me smile every time i drive it. Have driven various cars from m3 , 996 turbo, sl65 (JOB), quality is outstanding .... but prefer lighweight at the moment. I like to feel the speed not to just to see it on clocks. And at the end of the day it's a weekend car....for everyday i would like to drive a mid class deasel. To tell u the trueth even a new age feels abit dull right now, less feedback, everyone to their own thought ...
30 September 2010 | 08:57 PM
#126
I think mantazini edited the list before he posted (Kidding!). At the very top the list should have:
7:55.00 - 2011 Subaru Impreza STI
http://www.autospies.com/news/2011-S...d-Video-54981/
But above that would be:
7:50 --- 157.787 km/h -- BMW E46 M3 CSL, 360 PS/1421 kg (sport auto 08/03) - Doesn't change the fact that one tried to take me off the lights and failed. Teach him to try the wrong lane...
But above THAT would be
4:48 --- 2007 BMW M3 GTS
7:55.00 - 2011 Subaru Impreza STI
http://www.autospies.com/news/2011-S...d-Video-54981/
But above that would be:
7:50 --- 157.787 km/h -- BMW E46 M3 CSL, 360 PS/1421 kg (sport auto 08/03) - Doesn't change the fact that one tried to take me off the lights and failed. Teach him to try the wrong lane...
But above THAT would be
4:48 --- 2007 BMW M3 GTS
These were old lap times....
There are some new ones including new sti...
7:26.7* 165.69 km/h - 2010 Nissan GT-R Vspec, 478 PS/??? kg *provisional entry according to www.gtr.co.uk/forum/116340-7-26-7-a.html
7:27.56* 165.57 km/h - 2010 Nissan GT-R, 478 PS/??? kg, *company test driver Tochio Suzuki according to http://www.autoblog.com/2009/04/16/r...e-nurburgring/
7:27.82 167.21 km/h - Pagani Zonda F Clubsport, 641 PS/1230 kg, Marc Basseng (EVO #112) http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...llCars/228650/ http://www.supercarmovies.com/html/c...SODE5movie.php
7:28* -- 165.56 km/h - Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/1475 kg, * company test driver Walther Roehrl (Autobild 07/04)
7:28.71 164.76 km/h - Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/1475 kg (evo ?/08)
7:29* -- 164.68 km/h - 2009 Nissan GT-R, ??? PS/??? kg, *company test driver Tochio Suzuki according to http://www.nissaneurope-newsbureau.c...95056384513968
7:30* -- 164.48 km/h - Porsche 917 Spyder, 493 PS/??? kg, *mfr. http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...llCars/249934/
7:31 --- 164.38 km/h - Porsche 997 GT2, 530 PS/1440 kg, company test driver Walter Roehrl according to www.automotorsport.se/tv/?m=11159
7:32* -- 164.07 km/h - Pagani Zonda F, 650 PS/1230 kg (*mfr.) www.pagani-automobili.de/pagani-zonda-r.htm) www.autodrome-cannes.com/index-eng.asp
7:32* -- 164.07 km/h - Porsche 997 GT2, 530 PS/ 1440 kg, company test driver Walter Roehrl (*mfr.) http://www.caranddriver.com/previews...e-911-gt2.html
7:32.18 164.07 km/h - Porsche 997 GT2, 530 PS/ 1440 kg, company test driver Walter Roehrl http://www.autobild.de/artikel/Theme...ng_422642.html
7:32.44 163.91 km/h - Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, definitive time Horst von Saurma (sport auto 01/04) http://www.sportauto-online.de/super...e-1041052.html
7:32.52 163.88 km/h - Gemballa Porsche GTR 600 EVO, Wolfgang Kaufmann (sport auto 01) www.gemballa.com/news/gtr6002.html
7:33 --- 163.71 km/h - Pagani Zonda F, 602 PS/ 1371 kg, Horst von Saurma (sport auto 05/06) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...ID=2&tID=83550
7:33 --- 163.71 km/h - Porsche 997 GT3 RS, 450 PS/1417kg (sport auto 05/10)
7:33 --- 163.71 km/h - Porsche 997 GT3 RS, 450 PS/1,370 kg http://www.evo.co.uk/news/evonews/24...laps_ring.html
7:33 --- 163.71 km/h - Porsche 997 GT2, 530 PS/1497 kg (sport auto 11/07) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=2&tID=142508
7:33.55 163.62 km/h - Koenigsegg CCX, 817 PS/1280 kg , Marc Basseng (evo #123) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=2&tID=164756
7:34 --- 163.59 km/h - Koenigsegg CCR, 806 PS/1418 kg, Horst von Saurma (sport auto oct,17-18 05) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...ID=2&tID=75219
7:34* -- 163.59 km/h - Porsche GT2 *back-to-back testing by Porsche http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...n-GT-R/235197/
7:35* -- 162.86 km/h - Nissan GT-R R35, 473 PS/1724 kg (*mfr. estimation) http://www.motortrend.com/future/spi...08_nissan_gt_r
7:35 --- 162.86 km/h - Ruf Rt12, 650 PS/1573 kg (sport auto 01(08) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=2&tID=150345
7:36 --- 162.63 km/h - Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, factory test driver Walther R?hrl (02)
7:36* -- 162.63 km/h - Mercedes SL 63 AMG Black Series, *mfr. according auto-motor-und-sport.de (link no longer available)
7:37* -- 162.28 km/h - Honda NSX test mule, 550 PS * http://www.autoblog.com/2008/06/19/n...ially-at-7-37/
7:38* -- 161.63 km/h - Lexus LFA, 560 PS/1598 kg (sport auto 09/10)
7:38* -- 161.63 km/h - Mercedes SLR 722 GT, *company test driver Chris Goodwin http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/n...7671_13987.hbs
7.38* -- 161.63 km/h - Nissan R35 GT-R, *company test driver Suzuki, slick cut tyres, track partially wet http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...opanel..1.*#40 http://youtube.com/watch?v=uGe_fyhQazg http://youtube.com/watch?v=mqjnwbji13k
7.38 --- 161.63 km/h - Chevrolet Corvette ZR1, 647 PS/1533 kg (sport auto 10/09)
7.38 --- 161.63 km/h - Ferrari 458 Italia, 570 PS/1540 kg kg (sport auto 08/10)
7.38 --- 161.63 km/h - Nissan GT-R, 486 PS/1778 kg (sport auto 07/09)
7.38* -- 161.63 km/h - Porsche 997 Turbo *back-to-back testing by Porsche http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...n-GT-R/235197/
7:38.85 161.59 km/h - Lexus LFA, 560 PS/1580 kg (AutoBild Sportscars 10/10)
7.39 --- 161.58 km/h - Ferrari 430 Scuderia, 510 PS/1402 kg (sport auto 07/08) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=2&tID=160225
7.39* -- 161.58 km/h - Porsche 997 GT3, 415 PS/1395 kg, *mfr. (quote sport auto 05/06)
7:39 --- 161.58 km/h - Koenigsegg CCR, 806 PS/1180 kg
7.39 --- 161.58 km/h - TechArt GT street (based on 997 Turbo) 620 PS/1552 kg (sport auto 10/07) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=1&tID=140084 http://www.sportauto-online.de/aktue...7063_14469.hbs
7:39.39 161.219 km/h - Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, Walther Roehrl (AutoBild 02/06)
7:40 --- 161.22 km/h - Audi 200 Turbo quattro, Christian Kohlhaas http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=uZ3RgmIx9sM&fmt=18
7:40 --- 161.22 km/h - Bugatti 16/4 Veyron, 1001 PS/1980 kg (Wheels magazine Australia, 12/05)
7:40* -- 161.22 km/h - Lamborghini Murcielago LP640, 640 PS/1655 kg (AutoBild sportscars 01/07) *mfr., company test driver Giorgio Sanna
7:40 --- 161.22 km/h -- Mercedes SLS AMG, 571 PS/1647 kg (sport auto 05/10)
7:40 --- 161.22 km/h -- Mercedes CLK DTM AMG, 582 PS/1690 kg, Klaus Ludwig (AutoBild 03/06)
7:40 --- 161.22 km/h - Mercedes Benz SLR, Klaus Ludwig http://www.autobild.de/artikel/Theme...ife_45763.html
7:40 --- 161.22 km/h - Mercedes SLS AMG, 571 PS/1630 kg official time acording to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QogyCSuVQjE TARGET="_new">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAt4_aOooT8 " TARGET="_new">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QogyCSuVQjE
7:40* -- 161.22 km/h - Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1495 kg, *cold and partially wet track (sport auto 12/03)
7:40 --- 161.22 km/h - Porsche 997 GT3, 435PS/1426kg (sport auto 06/09)
7:40* -- 161.22 km/h - Porsche 997 GT3, 435PS/1426kg, *company test driver Walter Roehrl
7:40 --- 161.22 km/h - Porsche 997 Turbo, 480 PS/ ??? kg, Michelin Cup Sport tyres (Motortrend)
7:40.76 160.89 km/h - Lamborghini Gallardo SL, 570 PS/1430 kg (AutoBild Sportscars 10/10)
7:41 --- 160.87 km/h - Manthey Porsche GT3 M410, 413 PS (AutoBild 07/04) http://www.manthey-motors.de/nextsho...pdf.asp?id=217
7:42* -- 160.52 km/h - Ford GT, 550 PS/ 1521 kg (*as indicated by Octane magazine, 11/05)
7:42 --- 160.52 km/h - Lamborghini Murcielago LP 670-2 Super Veloce, 670 PS/1764 kg (sport auto 01/10 40th anniversary edition)
7:42 --- 160.52 km/h - Mosler MT900S Photon, Joao Barbosa (04) (according to dailysportscar.net)
7:42 --- 160.52 km/h - Porsche 997 GT3 RS, 415 PS/1420 kg (*mfr.)
7:42 --- 160.52 km/h - Radical 1500 SR3, 230 PS/510 kg (02) A HREF="http://www.radicalmotorsport.com/news_folder/nordchliefe/index.php" TARGET="_new">http://www.radicalmotorsport.com/new...iefe/index.php
7:42.9 - 160.21 km/h - Corvette Z06, 500 PS/1319 kg, Jan Magnusen, (Sporbilen, jun,26 05) http://www.supercars.net/Pics?vpf2=y...ID=1384471&l=d
7:43 --- 160.17 km/h - Porsche 996 GT3 RS, factory test driver Walter Roehrl (MOTOR magazine)
7:43 --- 160.17 km/h - Porsche 996 GT2, 462 PS/??? kg http://www.welt.de/print-welt/articl..._Reserven.html
7:43 --- 160.17 km/h - TechArt Porsche GT Street (based on 996 GT2) 620 PS/1453 kg, (sport auto 08/02)
7:43.5 - 160,00 km/h - Lamborghini Murcielago (Autocar magazine 02)
7:43.65 159,89 km/h - Nissan GT-R, 486 PS/1740 kg (AutoBild Sportscars 10/10)
7:44 --- 159.83 km/h - Audi R8 5.2 FSI, 525 PS/1660 kg (sport auto 09/09)
7:44* -- 159.83 km/h - Nissan GT-R, 473 PS/1724 kg *company chief engineer Kazutoshi Mizuno http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dl.../71017001/1065
7:44 --- 159.83 km/h - Pagani Zonda C12 S, 555 PS/1388 kg (sport auto 07/02)
7:45* -- 159.48 km/h - Aston Martin V8 Vantage N24, 385 PS/1350 kg (race car, not street-legal, slicks)(*mfr.)
7:45* -- 159.48 km/h - Ferrari F430 SC, *Porsche company test driver Walter Roehrl
7:45 --- 159.48 km/h - Gemballa Porsche GTR 600, 600 PS (00)
7:45* -- 159.48 km/h - Mercedes CLK 63 AMG Black Series, 507 PS/1760 kg (*mfr.) according to http://www.caranddriver.com/previews...ck-series.html
7:45* -- 159.48 km/h - McLaren F1, *estimated lap time from a video available at www.pistonheads.tv
7:45*-- 159.48 km/h - Porsche 997 GT3 RS, 415 PS/ 1424 kg, works driver Walter Roehrl, *mfr.
7:46 --- 159.14 km/h - Jaguar XJ220, John Walton (EVO magzine 07/00) www.jwhubbers.nl/ring/docs/evo-0007-7.jpg
7:46 --- 159.14 km/h - Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera, 522 PS/1528 kg (sport auto 09/07) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=2&tID=137437
7:46 --- 159.14 km/h - Porsche 996 GT2, 462 PS/1450 kg (sport auto 06/01)
7:46 --- 159.14 km/h - SHK Porsche 993 GT2, 652 PS (sport auto 99)
7:46.29 159.14 km/h - Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera, 522 PS/1500 kg (Auto Italy 09/07) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=2&tID=136632
7:47 --- 158.80 km/h - Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano, 620 PS/1805 kg (sport auto 01/07) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=2&tID=134701
7:47 --- 158.80 km/h - Lamborghini Murcielago LP640, 640 PS/1748 kg (sport auto 08/07) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73dNW...e=user&search= TARGET="_new">http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=2&tID=111663 " TARGET="_new">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73dNW...e=user&search=
7:47* -- 158.80 km/h - Porsche 997 GT3, 507 PS/1421 kg, works driver Walter Roehrl, *mfr.
7:47 --- 158.80 km/h - Wiesmann GT MF5 , 415 PS/1440 kg (sport auto 07/2010)
7:48 --- 158.46 km/h - BMW M3 GTS, 450 PS/1546 kg (sport auto 08/10)
7:48 --- 158.46 km/h - Porsche 997 GT3 RS, 415 PS/1424 kg (sport auto 03/07) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=2&tID=120285
7:48 --- 158.46 km/h - Porsche 996 GT3, 415 PS/1440kg (sport auto 07/06) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...ID=2&tID=91836
7:49 --- 158.12 km/h - BMW X5 Le Mans, 700 PS/~2000 kg, Hans-Joachim Stuck
7:49 --- 158.12 km/h - Corvette Z06, 512 PS/1440 kg (sport auto 06/07) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=0&tID=129099 www.youtube.com/watch?v=62WfAYRcaHI
7:49 --- 158.12 km/h - Porsche 997 GT2, 512 PS/1440 kg (sport auto 06/07)
7:49 --- 158.12 km/h - Porsche 997 GT3, 435 PS/1426 kg http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Drives/...chleife-05-09/
7:49 --- 158.12 km/h - Porsche 997 GT2, 512 PS/1440 kg http://magazines.drivers-republic.co...c/thetruth030/
7:49 --- 158.12 km/h - Porsche 997 Turbo, 480 PS/??? kg, company test driver Walter Roehrl (2006) http://www.spiegel.de/auto/fahrberic...414380,00.html
7:49 --- 158.12 km/h - Porsche 996 GT3, 392 PS (AutoBild 2004)
7:49 --- 158.12 km/h - Porsche 996 GT3 Cup, 360 PS/1207 kg (sport auto 02/99)
7:49.72 157.89 km/h - Honda RC30, Helmut Daehne (93) (moto bike)
7:50 --- 157.79 km/h - BMW E46 M3 CSL, 360 PS/1421 kg (sport auto 08/03)
7:50 --- 157.79 km/h - Lamborghini Murcielago, 462 PS/1450 kg (sport auto 06/02)
7:50 --- 157.79 km/h - Nissan GT-R, 480 PS/1750 kg, Horst von Saurma, partially wet track (sport auto 12/07) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=1&tID=145737
7:50 --- 157.79 km/h - 2009 Porsche Carrera S, 385 PS/1450 kg PDK, PASM, Michelin Pilot Cup Sport tyres (sport auto 08/08) http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=127326
7:50 --- 157.79 km/h - Westfield Super 7 with Hayabusa engine
7:51 --- 157.34 km/h - Mercedes SL 65 AMG Black Series, 670 PS/1880 kg (sport auto Supertest 05/09)
7:51 --- 157.34 km/h - Nissan GT-R, ??? PS/??? kg http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Drives/...chleife-05-09/
7:52 --- 157.12 km/h - Ford GT, 550 PS/1599 kg (sport auto 02/06)
7:52 --- 157.12 km/h - Gemballa Porsche 911 Le Mans (sport auto 95)
7:52 --- 157.12 km/h - Lamborghini Gallardo LP560-5, 560 PS/1590 kg (sport auto Supertest 11/08)
7:52 --- 157.12 km/h - Lamborghini Gallardo E-gear, 493 PS/1496 kg (sport auto 12/03)
7:52 --- 157.12 km/h - Mercedes Benz SLR McLaren (sport auto 06/04)
7:52.38 - 157.0 km/h - Wiesmann GT MF5, 507 PS/1395 kg (AutoBild sportscars 10/10)
7:52.84 - 157.09 km/h - Ruf Turbo Rt 600, 600 PS/1656 kg (AutoBild sportscars 08/08) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=0&tID=161349
7:54 --- 156.46 km/h - Mercedes CLK DTM AMG, 582 PS/1678kg, (sport auto 03/05) http://www.sportauto-online.de/test_...0696_14469.hbs
7:54 --- 156.46 km/h - Nissan GT-R R35 back-to-back testing by Porsche http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...n-GT-R/235197/
7:54 --- 156.46 km/h - Porsche 997 Turbo, 480 PS/1620 kg (sport auto 06/07) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=2&tID=126501 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPvBu...e=user&search=
7:54 --- 156.46 km/h - Porsche 993 GT3, 360 PS/1380 kg (sport auto 06/03)
7:55* -- 156.13 km/h - Aston Martin V8 Vantage N24, 385 PS/1350 kg (race car, not street-legal)(*mfr.)
7:55 --- 156.13 km/h - Caterham R500 Superlight, Robert Nearn (EVO magazine 07/00)
7:55 --- 156.13 km/h - Ferrari F430 F1, 490 PS/1493 kg (sport auto 01/06) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...ID=2&tID=67305
7:55 --- 156.17 km/h - Nissan GT-R, 473 PS/1724 kg http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dl.../71017001/1065
7:55 --- 156.17 km/h - 2011 Subari WRX STI, copany test driver Tommi Makkinen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hyAT...layer_embedded http://blogs.insideline.com/straight...enge-2010.html
7:55.9 - 155.81 km/h - Nissan GT-R, 473 PS/1724 kg http://magazines.drivers-republic.co...c/thetruth030/
7:56* - 155.80 km/h - Chevrolet Corvette Z06 ,company chief engineer Dave Hill (*mfr.)
7:56 --- 155.80 km/h - Ferrari California, 460 PS/1787 kg (sport auto 06/10)
7:56 --- 155.80 km/h - Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale, 425 PS/1387 kg (sport auto 02/04)
7:56 --- 155.80 km/h - Porsche 996 GT3, 462 PS/??? kg http://www.spiegel.de/auto/fahrberic...117941,00.html
7:56 --- 155.80 km/h - Porsche 996 Turbo, 420 PS/1569 kg (sport auto 06/00)
7:56* -- 155.80 km/h - Porsche Panamera Turbo, 500 PS/1970 kg, *company test driver Walter Roehrl (AutoBild 22/09) http://www.autobild.de/artikel/porsc...bo_918406.html
7:56.50 155.60 km/h - Mercedes CLK DTM AMG, 582 PS/1678kg, Klaus Ludwig (AutoBild 02/06)
7:56.65 155.57 km/h - Lamborghini Gallardo SE, 520 PS/1560 kg, Tom Kristensen (AutoBild 02/06)
7:56.73* 155.57 km/h Honda NSX-R (*Best Motoring video "Carrera Invasion", lap not complete)
7:57 --- 155.48 km/h - AC Schnitzer Tension, 552 PS/1797 kg (sport auto 04/07), http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=1&tID=123445
7:57 --- 155.47 km/h - Lotec Porsche 993 Turbo, 600 PS/1558 kg (sport auto 05/98)
7:57.46 -- 155.47 km/h - Lamborghini Gallardo LP560-4, 560 PS/1456 kg (AutoBild sportscars 08/08) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=0&tID=161349
7:58 --- 156.66 km/h - Audi RS4 4.2 V8 FSI, 420 PS/ 1650 kg, Frank Stippler, (10/05) http://www.8200rpm.com/forum/read.ph...16841&t=16841\
7:58 --- 156.66 km/h - 2009 Porsche Carrera S (manual transmission) http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=127326
7:59* -- 154.82 km/h - Chevrolet C6 Z51, company test driver Dave Hill (*mfr.)
7:59* -- 154.82 km/h - Nissan Skyline R33 GT-R (*free of the speed limiter standard on UK versions, so it was discounted) http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...llCars/228511/
7:59 --- 154.82 km/h - Porsche 997 Carrera S, PASM setting "Performance" (Walter Roehrl, WHEELS
06/ 2004)
7:59 --- 154.82 km/h - Raeder Ford Focus, 305 PS/??? kg http://www.evo-cars.com/tuning/news/...-rs-von-raeder
7:59.22 154.70 km/h - Cadillac CTS-V, 550 PS/??? kg, *mfr. http://cadillac.gmblogs.com/2008/05/...urburgrin.html
7:59.41 154.69 km/h - Subaru Impreza WRX STi spec.C "prototype" (2004), www.subaru.com.hk/pdf/SNW0404.pdf
8:01.90 153.99 km/h - Audi R8, 420 PS/1620 kg (AutoBild sportscars 11/08)
8:01.72 153.98 km/h - Nissan Skyline R33 GT-R, (Best Motoring video "Carrera Invasion")
8:01.90
8:01.84 153.98 km/h - Lamborghini Gallardo Spyder, 520 PS/1760 kg, http://www.autobild.de/test/neuwagen...rtikel_seite=1
8:02 --- 153.86 km/h - Aston Martin DBS, 517 PS/1727 kg (sport auto 01/09)
8:02 --- 153.86 km/h - Porsche 997 Carrera S, PASM setting "Sport", (Walter Roehrl WHEELS 06/04)
8:03 --- 153.54 km/h - Aston Martin V8 Vantage, 385 PS/1636 kg, Pirelli P Zero Corsa (sport auto 10/05)
8:03 --- 153.54 km/h - Porsche 911 GT3, 360 PS/1391 kg (sport auto 08/99)
8:03.86 153.52 km/h - Honda NSX http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ua_wcOnPkxk 8:04 --- 153.22 km/h - Audi R8, 420 PS/1595 kg (sport auto 07/07) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=2&tID=133046 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCTb6...e=user&search= 8:04 --- 153.22 km/h - Lamborghini Diablo GT, 575 PS/1620 kg (sport auto 07/00)
8:04.52 153.11 km/h - Porsche Carrera 4S PDK, 385 PS/1544 kg (Autobild sportscars 11/08)
8:05 --- 152.91 km/h - BMW M3, 420 PS/1608 kg (sport auto 12/07) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=2&tID=145617
8:05 --- 152.91 km/h - Mercedes CLK 63 AMG Black Series, 507 PS/1745 kg (sport auto 03/08) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=2&tID=152624 8:05 --- 152.91 km/h - Ferrari 575M Maranello F1, 580 PS/1820 kg (sport auto 12/02)
8:05 --- 152.91 km/h - Porsche 997 Carrera S, PASM settino ?Standard?, Walter Roehrl (WHEELS 06/04)
8:05 --- 152.91 km/h - Porsche 997 Carrera S, 355PS/1461kg (sport auto 05/05),
8:05 --- 152.91 km/h - Ruf CTR http://www.lad.lv/~martini/porsche/V...rburgring1.wmv 8:06 --- 152.59 km/h - Porsche 997 Carrera 4S, 385 PS/1455 kg, Walter Roehrl (AutoBild sportscars 03/0))
8:06 --- 152.59 km/h - Mercedes Benz SL55 AMG (sport auto 04/02)
8:06.01 152.59 km/h - Subaru WRX Sti C-spec (Best Motoring video "Carrera Invasion")
8:06.2 - 152.59 km/h - Caterham Superlight R http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...llCars/228511/ 8:07 --- 152.28 km/h - Ferrari 550 Maranello, 485 PS/1724 kg (sport auto 06/98)
8:07.76 152.04 km/h - BMW M6, 507 PS/1761 kg, Prinz Luitpold von Bayern (AutoBild 02/06)
8:08.62 151.77 km/h - HGP Golf R32 Turbo Stufe 3, 495 PS/1660 kg http://www.autobild.de/test/neuwagen...tikel_id=14071
8:08.73 151.88 km/h - Porsche 964 Turbo, 320 PS/??? kg www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4CdizEYwyw
8:09 --- 151.66 km/h - Audi RS4, 420 PS/1728 kg (sport auto 06/06)
8:09 --- 151.66 km/h - Audi TT RS, 340 PS/1483 kg (sport auto 10/02)
8:09 --- 151.66 km/h - BMW M6, 507 PS/1761 kg (sport auto 12/05)
8:09 --- 151.66 km/h - Honda NSX-R, 320 PS/1467 kg (sport auto 08/02)
8:09 --- 151.66 km/h - Ferrari 360 Modena , 400 PS/1464 kg (sport auto 10/99)
8:09 --- 151.66 km/h - Lamborghini Diablo SV, 520 PS/1590 kg (sport auto 12/97)
8:10 --- 151.35 km/h - Alpina B6 S, 530 PS/1815 kg (sport auto 05/08) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...ID=2tID=157259
8:10 --- 151.35 km/h - Aston Martin V8 Vantage (Top Gear 02/05)
8:10 --- 151.35 km/h - Chrysler Viper GTS, 411 PS/1567 kg (sport auto 10/97)
8:10 --- 151.35 km/h - Donkervoort D8 180R, 210 PS/650 kg (sport auto 03/01)
8:10 --- 151.35 km/h - KTM X-Bow, 240 PS/858 kg (sport auto 04/10)
8:10 --- 151.35 km/h - Mercedes E 63 AMG, 525 PS/1889 kg (sport auto 03/10)
8:10 --- 151.35 km/h - Porsche Boxster S, 310 PS/??? kg, http://www.sueddeutsche.de/automobil...49102/text/11/
8:10.75 151.27 km/h - Subaru Impreza WRX STi Version III sedan (1996), www.subaru.com.hk/pdf/SNW0404.pdf
8:11 --- 151,27 km/h - Mitsubishi Lancer EVO IX (Best Motoring video 14)
8:11* -- 151,27 km/h - Porsche Cayman S, 295 PS/1340 kg, test driver Walter Roehrl (*mfr.) (sport auto 07/05)
8:11.1 - 151,27 km/h - Lamborghini Gallardo Sypder E-gear (AutoBild sportscars 11/07)
8:12 --- 150.73 km/h - Mercedes Benz SL55 AMG, 476 PS/1651 kg (sport auto 04/02)
8:12 --- 150.73 km/h - Porsche 993 Turbo (sport auto 03/97)
8:12 --- 150.73 km/h - Porsche 993 Turbo works tuning (sport auto 06/97)
8:12.62 - 150.61 km/h - Honda CBR 1000 RR Fireblade, 172 PS/205 kg, Helmmut Daehne, previous record holder http://www.autobild.de/artikel/Theme...ng_422642.html
8:12.8 - 150.43 km/h - Porsche 997 Turbo convertible (AutoBild sportscars11/08)
8:13 --- 150.43 km/h - Aston Martin V8 Vantage, 385 PS/1636 kg, Bridgestone Potenza RE 50 (sport auto 10/05)
8:13 --- 150.43 km/h - BMW M5 (E60), 507 PS/1844 kg (sport auto 12/04)
8:13 --- 150.43 km/h - Dodge Viper SRT-10, 506 hp (sport auto, 10/04)
8:13 --- 150.43 km/h - Lotus Esprit Sport 350, 354 PS/1324 kg (sport auto 05/99)
8:13 --- 150.43 km/h - Mercedes C63 AMG, 457 PS/1761 (sport auto, 02/09)
8:14 --- 150.12 km/h - Alpina B3 Biturbo Coupe, 360 PS/1634 kg (sport auto 12/08)
8:14 --- 150.12 km/h - Mercedes SLK 55 AMG Black Series, 400 PS/1506 kg (sport auto 08/07) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=2&tID=134706
8:14 --- 150.12 km/h - Mercedes SL 65 AMG, 612 PS/2049 kg (sport auto 01/05)
8:14 --- 150.12 km/h - Steinmetz Opel Astra OPC, 285 PS/1418 kg (sport auto Tuning 07)
8:14.98 149.82 km/h - Mitsubishi Carisma Evo VIII GSR MR 8 (Best Motoring video "Carrera Invasion")
8:15 --- 149.82 km/h - BMW Z4 M Roadster, 343 PS/1485 kg,
8:15 --- 149.82 km/h - Alpina Roadster S, 300 PS/1416 kg (sport auto 6/05),
8:15 --- 149.82 km/h - Corvette C6, 404 PS/1491 kg (sport auto 08/05)
8:15* -- 149.82 km/h - Holden GTS (00), *estimated
8:15 --- 149.82 km/h - Porsche 997 Carrera 2, Walter Roehrl (WHEELS 06/04)
8:15 --- 149.82 km/h - Ruf 911 CTR II, 520 PS http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...llCars/228511/
8:16 --- 149.52 km/h - AC-Schnitzer M3 CLS II E36, 350 PS (sport auto 11/97)
8:16 --- 149.52 km/h - AC-Schnitzer V8 Topster, 450 PS/1557kg (sport auto 01/05)
8:16 --- 149.52 km/h - Aston Martin DB9, 457hp (sport auto 11/04)
8:16.09 149.41 km/h - Zender A3 Sportback Z440 R, 440 PS/1690 kg, http://www.autobild.de/test/neuwagen...tikel_id=14071
8:16.15 149.48 km/h - Honda NSX (Best Motoring video "Carrera Invasion") http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ua_wcOnPkxk
8:16.52 149.22 km/h - BMW M6 convertible, 507 PS/2015 kg, http://www.autobild.de/test/neuwagen...rtikel_seite=1
8:16.90* 149.22 km/h - Renault Megane R26.R, 230 PS/1230 kg *mfr. http://automobile.nouvelobs.com/gale...hp?idVideo=236
8:17 --- 149.22 km/h - Aston Martin V12 Vanquish, 515 PS/1775 kg (sport auto 01/03)
8:17 --- 149.22 km/h - Porsche Cayman S, 320 PS/1458 kg (sport auto 12/09)
8:17 --- 149.22 km/h - Porsche 911 Carrera, 320 PS/1399 kg (sport auto 06/01)
8:18 --- 149.92 km/h - BMW Z8, 400 PS/1651 kg (sport auto 08/00)
8:18 --- 149.92 km/h - Porsche Boxster S, 310 PS/1447 kg (sport auto 12/09)
8:18 --- 149.92 km/h -- Chevrolet Corvette Z05 Commemorative Edition, 344 PS (sport auto 09/003)
8:18 --- 149.92 km/h - Ferrari F355, 380 PS/1350 kg (sport auto 06/97)
8:18 --- 148.91 km/h - Lexus IS-F, 423 PS/1726 kg (sport auto 09/08) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=1&tID=163319
8:18 --- 149.92 km/h - Maserati GranSport, 400 PS/1672 kg (sport auto 09/05)
8:20 --- 148.32 km/h - Audi RS6, 400 PS/ 1815 kg (sport auto 03/01)
8:20 --- 148.32 km/h - BMW M3 E36, 321 PS (Autocar magazine 1997)
8:20* -- 148.32 km/h - Chevrolet Camaro SS V8 6.2l, 422 PS/1750 kg *mfr. http://www.leblogauto.com/2008/07/la...tournants.html
8:20 --- 148.32 km/h - 2008 Honda NSX, 500 PS/??? kg http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...llCars/225863/
8:20 --- 148.32 km/h - Porsche 993 GT3, Walter Roehrl (Car magazine 10/99)
8:22 --- 147.75 km/h - BMW M3 E46, 343 PS/1584 kg (sport auto 12/00)
8:22 --- 147.75 km/h - BMW M Coupe, 321 PS/1445 kg (sport auto 10/98)
8:22 --- 147.75 km/h - Mercedes-Benz C55 (sport auto07/2004)
8:22.38 147.62 km/h - Nissan Skyline R32 GT-R (Best Motoring video "Carrera Invasion") http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ua_wcOnPkxk
8:22.85 147.49 km/h - Chevrolet Cobalt SS, 260 PS/1349 kg, company test driver John Heinricy http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=0&tID=153640
8:23 --- 147.44 km/h - AC Schnitzer Mini Cooper S
8:23 --- 147.44 km/h - Aston Martin DB7 GT, 442 PS/1833 kg (sport auto 07/03)
8:23 --- 147.44 km/h - BMW X6 M prototype, 550 PS/2300 kg, wet track http://www.autobild.de/artikel/fahrb...6m_822254.html
8:23 --- 147.44 km/h - Porsche Boxster S, 280 PS/1426 kg (sport auto 04/06)
8:23 --- 147.44 km/h - Porsche 996 Carrera 4, 300 PS/1466 kg (sport auto 01/02)
8:24 --- 147.14 km/h - Audi S5, 354 PS/1718 kg (sport auto 01/08) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=2&tID=147974 8:24 --- 147.14 km/h - BMW X6 M, 555 PS/2343 kg (sport auto 10/09)
8:24 --- 147.14 km/h - Mercedes SLK 55 AMG, 360 PS/1566 kg (sport auto 04/05)
8:24 --- 147.14 km/h - Renault Megane R26.R, 230 PS/1252 kg, Horst von Saurma (sport auto 08/08)
8:24 --- 147.14 km/h - Subaru Impreza WRX STi (sport auto 05/04)
8:25 --- 146.85 km/h - Audi RS4, 375 PS/1675 kg (sport auto 10/00)
8:25* -- 146.85 km/h - 2007 BMW M5 Touring, 507 PS (*mfr.)
8:25 --- 146.85 km/h - Corvette Callaway C12, 400 PS/1564 kg (sport auto 04/99)
8:25 --- 146.85 km/h - Jaguar XKR, 612 PS/2835 kg
8:25 --- 146.85 km/h - Lotus Exige S, 243 PS/940 kg (sport auto 06/08) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=2&tID=158905
8:25 --- 146.85 km/h - Maybach 57 S, 612 PS/2835 kg
8:25 --- 146.85 km/h - Mitsubishi Carisma GT Evo VI, 300 PS/1466 kg (sport auto 11/99)
8:25 --- 146.85 km/h - Mitsubishi Carisma GT Evo VII (sport auto 11/02)
8:25 --- 146.85 km/h - Porsche Cayman S, 295 PS/1412 kg (sport auto 11/06)
8:25 --- 146.85 km/h - Porsche 911 ST, Michael Eschmann, fastest car at Oldtmer Grand Prix
8:26 --- 146.56 km/h - BMW 335i Coupe, 306 PS/1610 kg (sport auto 10/06)
8:26 --- 146.56 km/h - Ford Focus RS, 305 PS/1485 kg (sport auto 08/09)
8:26 --- 146.561 km/h - Mercedes Benz SLK 32 AMG, 354 PS/1480 kg (sport auto 05/01)
8:26 --- 146.56 km/h - Nissan 350Z, 280 PS/1526 kg (sport auto 10/03)
8:27 --- 146.26 km/h - 1975 Porsche Carrera 3.0 RS, 274 PS/999 kg, Walter Roehrl (AutoBild sportscars 03/09)
8:28 --- 145.98 km/h - BMW E49 M5, 400PS/1833 kg (sport auto 03/99)
8:28 --- 145.98 km/h - Nissan Skyline GTR, 277 PS
8:28 --- 145.98 km/h - Porsche 993 Carrera 2, 285 PS/1452 kg (sport auto 01/98)
8:28 --- 145.98 km/h - Porsche 993 Carrera Cabrio (sport auto 04/97)
8:28.1 - 145.98 km/h - Nissan Skyline GTR http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...llCars/228511/
8:28.93 145.69 km/h - Subaru Impreza WRX sedan (1992) www.subaru.com.hk/pdf/SNW0404.pdf
8:29 --- 145.69 km/h - Audi TTS, 272 PS/1438 kg (sport auto 10/08) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=2&tID=165234
8:29 --- 145.69 km/h - Audi S4 4.2 Avant, 344 PS/1826 kg (sport auto 11/03)
8:29 --- 145.69 km/h - Mercedes Benz CLK 55 AMG, 347 PS/1593 kg (sport auto 05/00)
8:29 --- 145.69 km/h - MTM VW Golf V GTI, 272 PS/1437 kg (sport auto Tuning 07)
30 September 2010 | 09:11 PM
#127
PMSL are you sad lot still banging on about this
you are all so easy to get going its like shooting fish in a barrel
I was actually basing my experience on my own driving having owned both cars not by a pointless lap time list which is compiled using different drivers for all the different cars.I was also comparing a 525bhp RS6 to my 350bhp spec c with only me driving both so a real world experience.Don't take it to heart so much because i think the Audi is better than a subaru.Everyone is entitled to their own opinion,don't throw the toys out of the pram when someone doesnt share the same opinion as you
oh go on then i could do with some more laughs
you are all so easy to get going its like shooting fish in a barrel
I was actually basing my experience on my own driving having owned both cars not by a pointless lap time list which is compiled using different drivers for all the different cars.I was also comparing a 525bhp RS6 to my 350bhp spec c with only me driving both so a real world experience.Don't take it to heart so much because i think the Audi is better than a subaru.Everyone is entitled to their own opinion,don't throw the toys out of the pram when someone doesnt share the same opinion as you
oh go on then i could do with some more laughs
Last edited by scooby-tc; 30 September 2010 at 09:12 PM.
30 September 2010 | 09:14 PM
#129
If the OP is still reading this ruined thread i would post the same question on a BMW forum such as www.m3cutters.com and see what they think.Probably as biased as this forum but you will get an idea of pro's and cons
Last edited by scooby-tc; 30 September 2010 at 09:16 PM.
30 September 2010 | 09:26 PM
#131
If the OP is still reading this ruined thread i would post the same question on a BMW forum such as www.m3cutters.com and see what they think.Probably as biased as this forum but you will get an idea of pro's and cons
No problem we welcome all
30 September 2010 | 09:29 PM
#132
I guess it a little lonely over here http://www.audi-sport.net/vb/rs6-for...uiet-here.html
No problem we welcome all
No problem we welcome all
ASN is like a morguewhat do you mean we welcome all lol i have been on here a lot longer than you
Last edited by scooby-tc; 30 September 2010 at 09:32 PM.
30 September 2010 | 09:46 PM
#136
30 September 2010 | 09:52 PM
#137
Nice selection but they all look horribly standard especially that RS6 with the awful standard suspension and standard exhausts,not even a nice colour
The question is though what does an Impreza do better than any of the above cars? in my experience NOTHING and i think that is what the OP was asking
especially that RS6 with the awful standard suspension and standard exhausts,not even a nice colourThe question is though what does an Impreza do better than any of the above cars? in my experience NOTHING
and i think that is what the OP was asking
30 September 2010 | 09:55 PM
#138
PMSL are you sad lot still banging on about this
you are all so easy to get going its like shooting fish in a barrel
I was actually basing my experience on my own driving having owned both cars not by a pointless lap time list which is compiled using different drivers for all the different cars.I was also comparing a 525bhp RS6 to my 350bhp spec c with only me driving both so a real world experience.Don't take it to heart so much because i think the Audi is better than a subaru.Everyone is entitled to their own opinion,don't throw the toys out of the pram when someone doesnt share the same opinion as you
oh go on then i could do with some more laughs
you are all so easy to get going its like shooting fish in a barrel
I was actually basing my experience on my own driving having owned both cars not by a pointless lap time list which is compiled using different drivers for all the different cars.I was also comparing a 525bhp RS6 to my 350bhp spec c with only me driving both so a real world experience.Don't take it to heart so much because i think the Audi is better than a subaru.Everyone is entitled to their own opinion,don't throw the toys out of the pram when someone doesnt share the same opinion as you
oh go on then i could do with some more laughs
I apreciate every maschine for it's own individuality. Theres always gonna be something better... faster.... And i would never i take it to heart as it's a discussion.I believe audi is better built quality and better for YOU. For me .... i love my scoob, as mentioned it ticks the right boxes for me at the moment. Maybe the will be a day when i will go to Zie German side, but it just not now. And coming back to the topic i think we all need to try different cars, this is how u get experience what is what and choose what is the best for you.
30 September 2010 | 09:55 PM
#139
That is your experience, mine is the opposite so we will agree to disagree. When you pay 20k plus for a car, modding is the furthest thing from ones mind as you apparently grow out of that or so I am told
However if you are going down the modded route my car destroys all the above no problem
However if you are going down the modded route my car destroys all the above no problem
Last edited by banny sti; 30 September 2010 at 09:57 PM.
30 September 2010 | 10:02 PM
#140
thats why i paid less for an already sorted one but i am still trying to think of what an Impreza does better than the more prestigious cars like M3s and Audi S/RS.The only thing i can think of is the age old 'its better in the twisties' arguement
but i am still trying to think of what an Impreza does better than the more prestigious cars like M3s and Audi S/RS.The only thing i can think of is the age old 'its better in the twisties' arguement
30 September 2010 | 11:11 PM
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PMSL are you sad lot still banging on about this
you are all so easy to get going its like shooting fish in a barrel
I was actually basing my experience on my own driving having owned both cars not by a pointless lap time list which is compiled using different drivers for all the different cars.I was also comparing a 525bhp RS6 to my 350bhp spec c with only me driving both so a real world experience.Don't take it to heart so much because i think the Audi is better than a subaru.Everyone is entitled to their own opinion,don't throw the toys out of the pram when someone doesnt share the same opinion as you
oh go on then i could do with some more laughs
you are all so easy to get going its like shooting fish in a barrel
I was actually basing my experience on my own driving having owned both cars not by a pointless lap time list which is compiled using different drivers for all the different cars.I was also comparing a 525bhp RS6 to my 350bhp spec c with only me driving both so a real world experience.Don't take it to heart so much because i think the Audi is better than a subaru.Everyone is entitled to their own opinion,don't throw the toys out of the pram when someone doesnt share the same opinion as you
oh go on then i could do with some more laughs
But you still drive a poor mans Mercedes!
If the OP is still reading this ruined thread i would post the same question on a BMW forum such as www.m3cutters.com and see what they think.Probably as biased as this forum but you will get an idea of pro's and cons
30 September 2010 | 11:15 PM
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The M3 will also feel raw. Probably as raw as the Impreza with the right suspension mods.
But the Audi's as I have said a few times, are far to clinical, not raw but very well done if you where to liken with a Sirloin stake.
I recently sold my TVR T350T, now that is the most raw car I have owned to date, but unfortunately is reliability let it down so it had to go.
02 October 2010 | 01:32 AM
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Now there lies the problem. No doubt your a short, fat, balding middle aged man who can no longer carry off the burberry and scooby image without looking like your going through a mid life crisis...so...by buying a big family estate with a bit of poke, still enables you to log onto this board and join in on the pi$$ing contests that requlary occur. 
02 October 2010 | 08:03 PM
#144
Wrong again, you are so much more intact with the road in a Impreza, the car feels raw, well my Spec C does anyway.
The M3 will also feel raw. Probably as raw as the Impreza with the right suspension mods.
But the Audi's as I have said a few times, are far to clinical, not raw but very well done if you where to liken with a Sirloin stake.
I recently sold my TVR T350T, now that is the most raw car I have owned to date, but unfortunately is reliability let it down so it had to go.
The M3 will also feel raw. Probably as raw as the Impreza with the right suspension mods.
But the Audi's as I have said a few times, are far to clinical, not raw but very well done if you where to liken with a Sirloin stake.
I recently sold my TVR T350T, now that is the most raw car I have owned to date, but unfortunately is reliability let it down so it had to go.
I think there are too many people out there who are overly concerned with whether a dashboard has soft touch plastic or not, or what the doors sound like when they close...........then buy an Audi if that's your priority. For me, I want a dynamic car with very reasonable service costs, superb, outstanding handling, dynamics and driveability, as well as grade A reliability, so it is SUBARU IMPREZA for me every time. And who says the Subaru doesn't have superb bulid quality????? Of course it does, there are so few of them produced, so build quality inevitably remains high.
03 October 2010 | 02:50 PM
#145
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Daren - My S3 would kill your lard **** barge in 'the twisties' even with knackered suspension and a miss fire......IT'S FAR TOO HEAVY!!! On the motorway, your car is superb, and it pulled away from Iain's car fairly easily but we were doing over 110mph BEFORE you put your foot down!! And it has got OVER 500bhp remember!
I've driven Simon's RS4 and yes, it was bloody quick when it was moving (a bit like my cossie was) but it was bloody awful to drive anywhere but dual carriage ways etc but nowhere near as much fun as driving my Impreza before it blew up (my fault for not changing the oil). To be perfectly fair mate, most Audi's a boring to drive and people buy them for a different reason and your trying to compare a rally car to a tourer and you just can't do that. The Impreza is about £20K cheaper than your car and designed for something completely different - going very fast from point to point 'through the twisties'.
Your Audi is designed to go VERY fast along a motorway!!!
I've driven Simon's RS4 and yes, it was bloody quick when it was moving (a bit like my cossie was) but it was bloody awful to drive anywhere but dual carriage ways etc but nowhere near as much fun as driving my Impreza before it blew up (my fault for not changing the oil). To be perfectly fair mate, most Audi's a boring to drive and people buy them for a different reason and your trying to compare a rally car to a tourer and you just can't do that. The Impreza is about £20K cheaper than your car and designed for something completely different - going very fast from point to point 'through the twisties'.
Your Audi is designed to go VERY fast along a motorway!!!
