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Old 29 September 2010, 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Dedrater
Nah I worded it wrong, he can group at 70 yards and he can also go supersonic with low grain, supersonic at 40 yards the outage is about half a meter, in any direction, but its fun hearing the crack, if a massive waste of air.
Lol, that makes more sense.

Ive never used a FAC air rifle but had a few at 12ft/lbs. 35yards is the furthest I would go to group consistently and be sure of a clean kill, but the target would need to be still, with excellent conditions. Generally I would go up to 30yards.

Sitting in the back garden though I can get 40yard sub 1inchers using my Air Arms S400 but that needs to be on optimum pressure charge as it isnt regulated and with a solid rest.
Old 29 September 2010, 11:55 PM
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Anyone used a Stalker FAC? Up to 220ft/lbs with a .30 slug, powered by air!

Thats more than you get with a live rimfire round.
Old 30 September 2010, 11:22 AM
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You have to obtain a licence to leagally shoot birds. Not sure about rats but I would just shoot them anyway.
Old 30 September 2010, 11:25 AM
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always like using this on rats myself,

Old 30 September 2010, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by kingofturds
You have to obtain a licence to leagally shoot birds.
The only thing you need to obtain, legally, is the land owners permission. Unless the bird in question is on the protected list or you are shooting game (which would be daft with any air powered gun) that are not in season.
Old 30 September 2010, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Dedrater
It is a bit cruel to shoot vermin with air pistols, because they are not at all powerful enough, unless you obtain your FAC (firearms certificate) because they are limited to 6 foot pounds and are not accurate over 14-20 feet.

It is not illegal to shoot live animals with a pistol, but definitely cruel.

Get a rifle, with scope.
No get a flamethrower.
Old 30 September 2010, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
From the GunShop, about 7 years ago - £122:99 I seem to remember .... it's a cracking gun, very powerful and accurate.

"Airgun of the Year" for two unprecedented years in succession.

http://www.henrykrank.com/vap253.html
I do like that...been thinking of an air rifle or pistol or maybe (re)starting clay shooting
Old 30 September 2010, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
No get a flamethrower.
What? So you can kill it, cook it, eat it at the same time?
Old 30 September 2010, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Habgood
I do like that...been thinking of an air rifle or pistol or maybe (re)starting clay shooting
That is a cracking pistol but for that money I would personally look for this or preferably the EB17 (.177 higher velocity)

http://www.wighillparkguns.co.uk/pro....asp?prod=1761

You can probably get one cheaper if you look around as well.

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Old 30 September 2010, 08:52 PM
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http://www.theoben.co.uk/product.php...&cat=19&page=1

Geoff.
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Here is my baby









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Originally Posted by Rapid17
oh yes.
Old 30 September 2010, 09:21 PM
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Detrater what is your range with that and muzzle velocity with a 14grain pellet?
Old 30 September 2010, 09:21 PM
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where can you buy one these air rifles with 30 ft lb? what do you need as 12 ft lb is the legal limit? i live in leeds
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Originally Posted by mickh25
where can you buy one these air rifles with 30 ft lb? what do you need as 12 ft lb is the legal limit? i live in leeds
An FAC which is getting harder and harder to get hold of. It is easier to get a shotgun license. You need to be squeaky clean, references, enough land to deem it necessary to need/require a FAC and a genuine need for the license on that land. Then theres security and subsequent police checks.
Old 30 September 2010, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by mickh25
where can you buy one these air rifles with 30 ft lb? what do you need as 12 ft lb is the legal limit? i live in leeds
an FAC - firearms cert.

http://www.theoben.co.uk/product.php...&cat=19&page=1
Old 30 September 2010, 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by mickh25
where can you buy one these air rifles with 30 ft lb? what do you need as 12 ft lb is the legal limit? i live in leeds
Why would you want/need one with 30ft/lbs?
Old 30 September 2010, 09:39 PM
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to shhot over a long range, have a diane 52, 12 ft ( susposed ) like to get more distance out of shot when i go shooting, i said 30 ft Ib but less would be ok
Old 30 September 2010, 09:47 PM
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anyone any thing for sale?
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One of the main advantages is the flatter trajectories. They dont make them more accurate necessarily but give a much flatter trajectory which is a major plus. If you are hunting there is the added advantage of increased energy being imparted on your quarry but as rabbits (the largest of quarry for airgunners) only require 4ft/lbs of energy with a head shot it shouldnt be regarded as an excuse to hunt over longer distances.
Old 30 September 2010, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by SRSport
Detrater what is your range with that and muzzle velocity with a 14grain pellet?
About 750 - 800 fps and I can group at 40 meters, that is the gun has a straight trajectory from 20-40 meters, so it is zeroed at that all the time. obviously go back to 60 meters and aim high, but I'm no good at that.
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Originally Posted by mickh25
anyone any thing for sale?
What FAC rated? Do you have an FAC?
Old 30 September 2010, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by SRSport
An FAC which is getting harder and harder to get hold of. It is easier to get a shotgun license. You need to be squeaky clean, references, enough land to deem it necessary to need/require a FAC and a genuine need for the license on that land. Then theres security and subsequent police checks.
The hardest thing I found trying to get fac, was getting land permission. The first bit of land a farmer allowed me on, was rejected as unsafe for fac by the feo on his inspection, the second one and the only permission on my fac, was already approved, I stated my resaon for needing a fac as vermin and rabbits and job done.
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Originally Posted by mickh25
anyone any thing for sale?
You will go directly to jail my friend.
Old 30 September 2010, 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by SRSport
What FAC rated? Do you have an FAC?
He didn't even know what one was and then asks if anyone has an FAC airgun for sale after your thorough explanation of what it was and how difficult it is to get one
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Originally Posted by Dedrater
The hardest thing I found trying to get fac, was getting land permission. The first bit of land a farmer allowed me on, was rejected as unsafe for fac by the feo on his inspection, the second one and the only permission on my fac, was already approved, I stated my resaon for needing a fac as vermin and rabbits and job done.
Thats it, if you have nothing to hide and genuinely have a valid reason for one then there isnt a reason why you would have a problem getting one.
Old 01 October 2010, 06:07 PM
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I like the look of this

http://www.wighillparkguns.co.uk/pro....asp?prod=2221
Old 01 October 2010, 06:18 PM
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They are nice, this is the one I have. Solid build, handles well. Wish it had a little more power but as semi autos go these are about as good as they get.

http://www.drapers-airguns.co.uk/aca...TS_Co2_39.html

Old 01 October 2010, 06:21 PM
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got me thinking now...would be limited to the back garden for target practising..no?
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Back garden multi target is its territory. If you want more precise target shooting I would prefer the Sheridan 17. Much higher velocity and powerful single shot.


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