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Old 07 October 2010, 10:17 PM
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Edd, thanks. Will respond to your posts tomorrow as have had a few whiskies and need to do the maths!
Old 08 October 2010, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by EddScott
Thats explained fine. Its mostly likely what is known as a Group Personal Pension. Its your individual pension under a group scheme for the payments. It may well be a "stakeholder" pension which means it has to stick to certain rules like a maximum annual charge or 1.5%. The issue with stakeholder is that for an IFA practice its not very cost effective to setup and administer because there is little or no commission involved. Another is that to keep charges low the fund choice is quite limited. We have the process of setting up a stakeholder GPP down to a fine art and have some very large schemes. We get a little drip feed payment which, if being honest, probably doesn't cover the administration costs but we do it anyway.

We are all aware that there is a huge issue with adequate pension provision. All anyone can do is their best in this area and its really a personal choice as to whether its a good thing to do or not. Even if I wasn't in the financial industry I would say being a member of a company scheme is a good idea. Auto enrolment will take that choice away.
Yep Stakeholder ,thats the one.I think the costs/fees are .5% each year .
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Originally Posted by Dingdongler
Glad to see you are happy to discuss the matter.

So back to me as the example please.
I'm sure a chap posted recently that to see a "good" pension at retirement you need to invest the same %age of your salary per year as your age let's hope that you've not got many outgoings at 55! One of the many reasons I give em a wide berth

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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
but if you work for a company that does a contributory scheme -- it would be wise to participate in it?
It's still not enough though is it ... 5% personal contribution & 10% employer is a pretty good deal IMHO but still only gives 15% of your income as a contribution. Way below the "rule of thumb" in my post above!

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Originally Posted by Dingdongler
The critical illness cover I have cannot be bought now, it's one of the few financial products which was actually worth it. In total so far I've only paid about £10k into it ie £50/month over 17 years but would pay me out close to £300k for illnesses which are now very treatable and should probably mean a near normal life span but at the time weren't.
Er, they haven't updated the Policy at all over last 17 years more fool them if true albeit hard to believe ...

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Originally Posted by Terminator X
I'm sure a chap posted recently that to see a "good" pension at retirement you need to invest the same %age of your salary per year as your age let's hope that you've not got many outgoings at 55! One of the many reasons I give em a wide berth

TX.
I think your mean the chap on Breakfast news a while back. He said in order to be absolutely sure of a retirement income in keeping with your current spending you halve your age and use that as a % of your salary.

So if your 32 and earn £32k your looking at 16% of £32K which is about £430 a month. For pretty much all of us including me this is an impossible ask. I don't put in nearly enough but I'm at least doing something and I'm happy with the restriction imposed - its hard enough for me not to spend my ISA (which is earmarked for my mortgage) and when if I became a HRT payer I'd use my pension to reduce my liability. Like I said, a big aspect of a good adviser is to reduce a clients tax liability to an absolute minimum.

What I will say is that people don't seem to realise just how big the gap is in retirement funding and doing nothing is a big mistake.

Originally Posted by Terminator X
Er, they haven't updated the Policy at all over last 17 years more fool them if true albeit hard to believe ...

TX.
If you mean hasn't the insurer updated the policy in the last 17 years, they can't. They can't make a retrospective change to an existing policy. Just the same as if you were a non-smoker when the policy started and you took up 60 a day a month after. Its what is fact today.

I've got a similar index linked critical illness policy but it started at only for £50K. It only costs me about £14 a month and covers nearer £60K now - or something to that effect. It too covers for illnesses that are reasonably easy to treat these days.

I've said it before when CI was mentioned on here before, if you've got I really would think twice before dumping it but its become very expensive.

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