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Old 11 October 2010, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by banny sti
We found the missing idiot from the village
you, mr friend, appear to be the exception to the rule, as i have said many times before, i have no problem with anyone who keeps themselves to themselves.


I dont like religion used as a excuse to do **** all all day and be at odds with the general way of life of the country you live in!


Mock me all you want, you will all see my point in 10 years time!



and yes, nice evo btw!
Old 11 October 2010, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by GC8WRX
you, mr friend, appear to be the exception to the rule, as i have said many times before, i have no problem with anyone who keeps themselves to themselves.


I dont like religion used as a excuse to do **** all all day and be at odds with the general way of life of the country you live in!


Mock me all you want, you will all see my point in 10 years time!


and yes, nice evo btw!
Do you think it is their (Muslim) religion that keeps them for working or that they (Muslims) hide behind it - is that the case?

I think you may be confusing the issues terrorist and the Koran rather than Muslims and the jobcentre
Old 11 October 2010, 03:05 PM
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Yeah Banny, get working you skiving git they pay you far too much as it is are you on an extra bonus or something?!

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Old 11 October 2010, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
So much for the economic benefits of immigration?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...ing-point.html
Since they're unemployable, can we somehow not just depot them?
No point wasting good money on foreign handouts?
Old 11 October 2010, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by urban
Since they're unemployable, can we somehow not just depot them?
Yeah let's put them in a warehouse
Old 11 October 2010, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Yeah let's put them in a warehouse
No, they need to be useful somehow - gas them and make them into soap once removing all the gold teeth and clothes. they could then be burned to heat houses of the non-Muslims

Lets extend the scheme to all unemployed even Christians, Buddhists all non believers Jedi's and dare i say Jews
Old 11 October 2010, 03:42 PM
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We could have a Muslim depot outside of every major city, signposted, maybe a train going straight in. GC8WRX could run it, perhaps.
Old 11 October 2010, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
We could have a Muslim depot outside of every major city, signposted, maybe a train going straight in. GC8WRX could run it, perhaps.


GC8 WRX is the reason for the other statistic ie 25% of Indian and Chinese men are in professional jobs compared to 12% of white men.
If idiots like him actually spent more time trying to better themselves rather than looking for somebody else to blame they may progress a bit further in life.
Old 11 October 2010, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Dingdongler


GC8 WRX is the reason for the other statistic ie 25% of Indian and Chinese men are in professional jobs compared to 12% of white men.
If idiots like him actually spent more time trying to better themselves rather than looking for somebody else to blame they may progress a bit further in life.
Tick!
Old 11 October 2010, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by J4CKO
This thread has the potential to turn into a Muslim bashing thread like no other, think before posting, is it a real issue or an excuse to have a pop at Muslims.

I personally think that there is an issue here, this isnt me hating on Muslims but if fifty percent of Muslim men are unemployed then either they arent getting a chance, they are actually not working or are working in the "Cash Economy" like I mentioned in the thread I posted last week, like has been mentioned Taxi's, Shops and Food outlets, a lot of the staff arent official, a lot arent actually legal immigrants.

My take is that generally Asian's are hardworking folk, it is just that a lot of their business goes on under the radar, cant blame them if they can get away with it but I suspect also they are some of the biggest benefits claimants who I would imagine find it highly amusing, similar to our own, home grown claimants but a bit smarter, another reason why the country is on its ****.
My understanding is that these illegal Muslim workers wouldn't be counted in the figures anyway, 'cos they're, erm illegal

If it's true it's an astounding number. Bit like seeing today in The Sun that an estate in rochdale has something like 84% of residents on benefits
Old 11 October 2010, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by J4CKO
This thread has the potential to turn into a Muslim bashing thread like no other, think before posting, is it a real issue or an excuse to have a pop at Muslims.
I'm just posting facts. Should topics be made taboo for fear of being labeled 'Islamophobic'?

Originally Posted by J4CKO
My take is that generally Asian's are hardworking folk, it is just that a lot of their business goes on under the radar, cant blame them if they can get away with it but I suspect also they are some of the biggest benefits claimants who I would imagine find it highly amusing, similar to our own, home grown claimants but a bit smarter, another reason why the country is on its ****.
'Asians' are not one group and for that matter all 'muslims' are not one group! You can't have it both ways, are 'muslims' hard workers or benefit cheats? With the reputation of places like Bradford, could we say that the Pakistani 'community' is disproportionately cheating the welfare system as well as car insurance etc?

...and yes I can blame people for 'being under the radar'. It's not how a functional democracy with a civil society should work, we must stress responsibility not an amoral 'get away with what you can'!
Old 11 October 2010, 05:30 PM
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I think there can be a balanced standpoint, somewhere between complete racist and right on liberal, if a significant percentage of a group is not towing the line then it needs dealing with, getting all BNP about it just makes you sound an **** and being too lberal means you wouldnt say boo to a goose in case you get labelled racist.

I notice the papers have a version of this, there is always a subtext, they don't usually say the origin, religion or background of someone in an article, like the Daily Mail with the insurance crash for cash scams, they just name the person convicted and it says it all, its quite insidious as they dont have the courage in their convictions to say its basically a crime committed by Young Asian Men to make money, those are facts but until it is in the open and dealt with it will continue.

I think the rampant Asian bashing that gets trotted out is pointless and divisive, this country would be poorer in lots of ways without Asian people and lets face it no matter what skinhead BNP types want they arent going home, a fair percentage were born here so get used to it. The reasons behind these figures need to be investigated and acted upon.

Muslim Depot, hmm, I saw that perhaps as an out of town retail warehouse where you could get ornate tissue box covers, dangly stuff for rear view mirrors, Qurans's and stuff at low low prices.
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Old 11 October 2010, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Trout
50% of my household does not work. And 100% of the women in my household does not work.

And we are all agnostics.
I'm assuming the stats refer to people of 'working age'.

It mentions 'men' and 'women' for example which implies this.
Old 11 October 2010, 05:41 PM
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I am talking about people of working age.

That's my point - stats can give you any old crap!
Old 11 October 2010, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Trout
I am talking about people of working age.

That's my point - stats can give you any old crap!
So what's your point?

You just sampled one household.
Old 11 October 2010, 06:18 PM
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whoever signs on or gets benifits and works for cash is paying nothing in but if they need the hospital police we all pay for it .... Whoever it is!!!
Make your own minds up ....
To me all people who get cash paid for work whatever it is taxi. Corner shop . Or window cleaner most will fiddle it....
Why they get away with it is sickening.
But you cant label everyone according to colour sex or beliefs people.
Old 11 October 2010, 06:27 PM
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claiming in multi names is a old thing a group of scousers got caught years ago claiming in ilfracombe (north devon) then mini bus back to liverpool every week to sign on up there . if the system is to complex and open to abuse people will abuse it regardless of colour race or creed . benefit fraud is far more widespread than we all think
Old 11 October 2010, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by madscoob
benefit fraud is far more widespread than we all think
Yep, that's because more people are basicaly dishonest than you might think!
Old 11 October 2010, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Habgood
Have you had your meds this morning or did you fall asleep listening to a recording of BNP rally speeches on your i-Pod
You have to also accept that not everyone wants them in the country either
Old 11 October 2010, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by J4CKO
I think the rampant Asian bashing that gets trotted out is pointless and divisive, this country would be poorer in lots of ways without Asian people and lets face it no matter what skinhead BNP types want they arent going home, a fair percentage were born here so get used to it. The reasons behind these figures need to be investigated and acted upon.
As much as this is an unfair generalisation, why are 'we' 'richer' for having say people of Pakistani origin? Bradford is a haven for benefit fraud, insurance fraud etc, plus we have the social problems, 7/7 and cost of fighting terrorism.
Old 11 October 2010, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by banny sti


you must own many corner shops.
Old 11 October 2010, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by banny sti




"It's blick !"

Old 12 October 2010, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
As much as this is an unfair generalisation, why are 'we' 'richer' for having say people of Pakistani origin? Bradford is a haven for benefit fraud, insurance fraud etc, plus we have the social problems, 7/7 and cost of fighting terrorism.
My good mate Zahid, great bloke (and WR1 owner), my wife's mate Yasmeen, Umran at work, all hard workers who dont claim benefits and are usually scathing of their countrymen who do. Must be demoralizing when you are making an effort to do your bit that everyone assumes you are a scrounging layabout.

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Old 12 October 2010, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by GC8WRX
you, mr friend, appear to be the exception to the rule, as i have said many times before, i have no problem with anyone who keeps themselves to themselves.


I dont like religion used as a excuse to do **** all all day and be at odds with the general way of life of the country you live in!


Mock me all you want, you will all see my point in 10 years time!



and yes, nice evo btw!
I doubt very much that the Muslim religion teaches that they should come over here and take advantage of our welfare state.

That will be down to the individual people concerned and they will use the situation to their advantage in many cases, just like the other people who emigrated here.

It will be like Christmas to them after what they had in their own countries.

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Originally Posted by Leslie
I doubt very much that the Muslim religion teaches that they should come over here and take advantage of our welfare state.

That will be down to the individual people concerned and they will use the situation to their advantage in many cases, just like the other people who emigrated here.
Except not all immigrant groups have the same social problems.

So there is something going on.
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
Except not all immigrant groups have the same social problems.

So there is something going on.
I think you will find the same with somalians, Iraqis and so on
Old 12 October 2010, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by EddScott
From the same article. It begs the question why? Is it because they are cheaper to employ?
The comment was taken in isolation from another article:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...itish-men.html

Some white men remain behind their Indian and Chinese peers, who are increasingly high fliers.

The study says: “People from some ethnic groups are more likely to be in higher skilled, professional occupations than others.

“For example, Chinese and Indian men are nearly twice as likely as white British men to be in professional jobs.”

Just 14 per cent of white men are in professional jobs, compared with 27 per cent of Chinese and 25 per cent of Indian men.
I know in a traditional Chinese household, you will be encouraged to study and to better yourself. Parents will encourage/expect their children to have a better life than their own.

I was encouraged to study hard and work hard, and not rely on the state, as the only people I could rely on was me and my family! I've worked since I was 15 and paid tax since I was 15!

I have a professional job, but I've work hard to get it. If anything being Chinese I've had to work harder and constantly prove myself, my knowledge, my ability and my experience.

As a side note, the MD of the company I work for is Indian and we are profitable company, which has been for over twenty years.

If I am taking jobs from "white" men, then my boss will probably give you my job if you can work harder and want to get paid less then me!
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Despite it's population seemingly having forged a reputation as hard workers, the Eastern block in Cardiff is now the crime capital of Wales. Slovaks and Polish ladies and gentleman have taken to walking in to retail outlets on Newport Road, picking stuff up, skipping the paying part and simply walking back out. When challenged, the intimidating men just look at the shopworkers with contempt and slink off in to the maze of streets behind the retail parks.

I really hate sounding like a Daily Mail reader, but having witnessed, at various locations around the country, much money and resource hemorrhaging from our near bankrupt system at the hands of these guests (invited or otherwise), my tolerance is being severely tested. Irritantingly, I can't envisage a workable solution. Outright bigotry, racism and xenophobia may well be the only answer. Accept towards Banny, he's one of us.

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Old 12 October 2010, 12:34 PM
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Migth just be my perception, but very rarely see any issues from the Chinese community, I am sure they have their own issues but they do seem to just get on with it.

There is a school of thought that on average that people from that region have a higher than average IQ than other groups.

Made me think of this,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkGkv7NWyl4

Sorry Andy !


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