Tate Modern - more stupidity
14 October 2010, 04:45 PM
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Hmm, this thred got me thinking about artists.
Now some know I do commission pieces for people, mainly of cars as thats what I enjoy doing. But does that mean I'm an artist or technical illustrator. If I see it I draw it, but not in any "style" or movement. I try replicate what I see on the photo or whatever I'm working from, in a lifelike form.
Anyone answer that as it's genuinely got me stuck between 2 definitions
Now some know I do commission pieces for people, mainly of cars as thats what I enjoy doing. But does that mean I'm an artist or technical illustrator. If I see it I draw it, but not in any "style" or movement. I try replicate what I see on the photo or whatever I'm working from, in a lifelike form.
Anyone answer that as it's genuinely got me stuck between 2 definitions
15 October 2010, 04:09 PM
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So now he has changed his mind.
It is just utter bollocks. He is no more an artist than my cat.
16 October 2010, 11:46 AM
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You don't realise the logic of what you are saying. You keep talking about 'skill'...i.e technical expertise. It's like cubism and the rest of modern art passed you by. Ad Reinhardt painted a canvas in black, where is the 'skill' in that? Did Turner become a worse artist when his sight began to fail and his paintings took on a impressionist quality?
Tracy Emin did alright didn't she, only had to get out of bed and there it was, in all its disgusting glory!
You lot are being sent up something wicked!
Nothing wrong with my logic I can assure you. Anyway, you should make the most of the bubble before it bursts!
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16 October 2010, 12:34 PM
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Thank you for making it unnecessary to say it. Why do you infer that there is no necessity for any kind of skill in art now. Is it all part of the great PC belief that it is unfair for someone to be more skilful than another person and therefore the sort of picture you describe which could be produced by anyone with a pot of paint and a canvas in a couple of minutes must be held up as a brilliant example of art and everyone must immediately worship the "artist's ability?
Tracy Emin did alright didn't she, only had to get out of bed and there it was, in all its disgusting glory!
You lot are being sent up something wicked!
Nothing wrong with my logic I can assure you. Anyway, you should make the most of the bubble before it bursts!
Les
Tracy Emin did alright didn't she, only had to get out of bed and there it was, in all its disgusting glory!
You lot are being sent up something wicked!
Nothing wrong with my logic I can assure you. Anyway, you should make the most of the bubble before it bursts!
Les
17 October 2010, 12:01 PM
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This is what degrees get us, rooms full of hand painted beans!
17 October 2010, 12:03 PM
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Thank you for making it unnecessary to say it. Why do you infer that there is no necessity for any kind of skill in art now. Is it all part of the great PC belief that it is unfair for someone to be more skilful than another person and therefore the sort of picture you describe which could be produced by anyone with a pot of paint and a canvas in a couple of minutes must be held up as a brilliant example of art and everyone must immediately worship the "artist's ability?
Tracy Emin did alright didn't she, only had to get out of bed and there it was, in all its disgusting glory!
You lot are being sent up something wicked!
Nothing wrong with my logic I can assure you. Anyway, you should make the most of the bubble before it bursts!
Les
Tracy Emin did alright didn't she, only had to get out of bed and there it was, in all its disgusting glory!
You lot are being sent up something wicked!
Nothing wrong with my logic I can assure you. Anyway, you should make the most of the bubble before it bursts!
Les
Tracey Emin isnt an artist, she has had too many lsd tabs at uni and is full of sh1te!
17 October 2010, 01:42 PM
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I never said skill was unnecessary or any 'rubbish' paint on canvas should be held up as high art.
The point is that the 'value' of art in NOT simply in the object, modern art proved this, before that is was thought art had to beautiful....to have some impressive aesthetic quality. Art needs an intellectual component.
18 October 2010, 11:26 AM
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I never said skill was unnecessary or any 'rubbish' paint on canvas should be held up as high art.
The point is that the 'value' of art in NOT simply in the object, modern art proved this, before that is was thought art had to beautiful....to have some impressive aesthetic quality. Art needs an intellectual component.
Particularly unpleasant and unnecessary comment.
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18 October 2010, 11:33 AM
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It's not a belittlement just a question.
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