Trout

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I am sure there is a pic of Truda at just about student age on the WAGs thread

Leslie

I certainly agree about the "Mickey Mouse" degrees. The original one like that was PPE which was the one everyone di when they wanted an easy ride and could not think of anything useful to read anyway.

A good filtering out of all those useless ones would do the country and the students a lot more good and would be far better value for the money.

Les

Butkus

To me it seems that having a degree is vital if you want the comfortable middle-class lifestyle. It will keep you out of the working class gutter where you're scraping by to make ends meet but it won't necessarily get you right to the top, as in the mega-millions category. I think achieving that sort of success comes from a completely different place to academic qualifications.

Apart from a very few jobs (mainly in the city), you're not going to get very fat unless you start your own business, for which you don't need a degree.

mgcvk

University, is it actually worth it ?

Probably not for many. I met my wife there (she may well now regret going) but otherwise my French and European Studies degree didn't really prepare me for anything although many employers want graduates for some reason. Useful things such as Medicine, Law, Engineering, Maths, Physics and the various Sciences obviously require advanced study. Not so sure about some of the Mickey Mouse Media Studies type degrees. The people I know earning the most money haven't been to University though some do have a bit of a chip on their shoulders as many they work with have been.

I suppose the social, living away from home and meeting people from different cultures and backgrounds does help to make you a more rounded individual. If I could turn back time (apart from the meeting the wife bit ) I would get a job in Tescos after A-levels and just stay there and work my way up to the Board of Directors, or at least chief shelf-stacker.

dunx

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Whilst on my course, four years (B.Eng.), "we" scraped by, whilst Paul's Mrs worked her way through her accountancy exams in a busy office...

When we exited into the real world an engineer with a degree was worth far less than a qualified accountant, as she pointed out, she'd been earning a decent wage throughout...

So I'd say it totally depends on the area of the market-place you end up in.

dunx

P.S. My pal from school got a First in Fine Art for splashing paint onto canvases and spouting "5hite" about the fact that solid matter is mostly empty space, thus out BS-ing the staff of BS-ers...

Steve vRS

I've just started a part time MSc in Fire Explosion Engineering....at 37.

So yes the correct qualification is worth it.

Steve

hodgy0_2

sounds like the sort of course only a Steve could get away with



(pitty Mohamed sitting at the back minding his own business)

SJ_Skyline

To us laymen, it that a degree in blowing **** up?

DYK

I know a few who went to uni just to doss around,a guy i know wasted 6 yrs at uni.Dad had his own company and the son just lived off mommy and daddy,unfortunately his dad died a few months before retirement,last i heard of the son he was on the dole as mom wouldn't give him any money until he got a job.I really think now that uni is just an excuse for some to hide away..My dad had his own company and wanted me to go to uni,but i just wanted to go out and work and learn a trade.Worked for my old man for a bit,then went back to college and got my qualifications in building construction,worked on building sites for 12 month then i joined the forces.Although our dad had family already in the forces it didn't stop him from trying to talk me out of it.Never looked back since doing it,had some hair raising moments and some great times also ,and met some people who became great mates and experienced a lot about life,all before i was 30..Would i have wished i had gone to uni instead,absolutely not..The things i have done the people i have met and places i been,no degree or uni education could come close.It's worth it to some though i guess depending on what the objective is...

Steve vRS

Actually, it's about trying to stop stuff blowing up, however, don't we all like to watch videos of stuff going pop

Steve

dunx

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Whilst on my course one of the research fellows was banged up for having a collection of AK-47's behind his bath panel.

Well he was a Palestinian after all

dunx

Dingdongler

What exactly is a 'nu skool' employer then? Morrisons?

Steve vRS

I'd hate to go and see a nu skool doctor or cross a bridge designed by a nu skool engineer!

Steve

Dingdongler

You can just picture it can't you?.....



Ring ring. Ring ring

GC8 WRX: ello?

Lady: Good morning this is Rolls Royce HR may I help you?

GC8 WRX: Yes darlin'. I aint herd back about the job i apalled for innit?

Lady: May I have your name sir?

GC8 WRX: Yeah, it's Mr WRX.

Lady: Ah yes......you applied for our chief engineers job to oversee the development of the new range of jet engines?

GC8 WRX: Thats write luv, when do i start?

Lady: Sir you've not been shortlisted. You didn't even have the minimum qualifications of a MSc in an aeronautical science, let alone the experience.

GC8 WRX: why you been so old school luv? i can think on my feet and have common sense, how difficult can it be. if i get stuck i can ask my mates on scoobynet nsr. and i have a mate who works at halfords he nows bout engines and ****, suffink or nuffink.

Lady: Sir, this is a multi billion pound development project. These engines will power the world's aeroplanes and be responsible for safely carrying millions of passengers. Do you seriously think you can do the job with 2 GCSEs??

GC8 WRX: Is it cos i is white? i bet youve given the job to some muslim or something on some postiive discrimpination drive. probs allowed to where a ninja outfit to work aswell no doubt??

Steve vRS

LOL

Chip

And no doubt did not have an ounce of common sense between them.

Chip

Leslie

Would that be TDW then?

Les

GC8WRX

Funny that, i dont have a degree but make way more that the national average, my boss makes nearly 55k and he started the way i did, part time and worked his way up, i dont call 55k living in the gutter!


Only a couple of my peers have degrees, and they make less than i do but have 12k of student debt to pay off, and because i started to earn decent money 3 years before they did i have a nice car too, and money in the bank, and a head start career wise!


I worked at astra zeneca for over 5 years and not one of my collegues had a degree except for the r and d guys, but they were locked away in syngenta, injecting beagles and rhesus monkeys for a living, and astra zeneca salaries are WAY above the national average!


Didnt need a degree to earn 35k a year for a 35 hr week, rising to 45k when management oportunities arrived.


Most of the degree kids in r and d had no common sense, they were clever on paper but couldnt think on their feet and wouldnt have lasted 5 mins on the production floor but were in their element hidden away behind a computer hot desking with the mad professors!



Like i said before, degrees are only for old school companies with old school attitudes!


Apart for the obvious, medicine, law and the sciences!

Leslie

Can't argue with that.

Les

GC8WRX

cheers les!

MattW

I didn't got to uni either and I would say that my early 20's were a waste of time. It was only until I got a break did I begin to climb the ladder of life and probably overtook quite a few people who had degrees.

but....without that break I could have remained in a dead end job.