Oct 20th - Apple Change Everything... once again
17 October 2010, 08:31 PM
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The Air sparked a move to thin and light laptops. It changed peoples opinions on how small a powerful laptop could be. That's game changing.
STi wanna Subaru, it's not new Apple products that turn me on, it's people like you taking the time to slag me off that gets me going, so thanks.
STi wanna Subaru, it's not new Apple products that turn me on, it's people like you taking the time to slag me off that gets me going, so thanks.
Sony were making thin and light laptops about 4 years ago, the vaio next
to me has a 5mm thick lid/screen.
I love the way apple play catch up, and then make out they've been the
innovators of old / new stuff.
Take the red pill jack, and see the real world
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17 October 2010, 09:21 PM
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I don't want my living room to look like a solicitors office thanks 
17 October 2010, 09:39 PM
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Mart, let me introduce you to a little web site called Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org
Now, if you take five minutes to do a little research before you post, it'll save you looking like a doofus.
Now, if you take five minutes to do a little research before you post, it'll save you looking like a doofus.
17 October 2010, 10:03 PM
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Mart, let me introduce you to a little web site called Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org
Now, if you take five minutes to do a little research before you post, it'll save you looking like a doofus.
Now, if you take five minutes to do a little research before you post, it'll save you looking like a doofus.
Jack call me what you like
it dosent bother me I'm not the one trying to be apples press officer on SN
Who cares if apple bring out a product every 6 month's.
Mart
17 October 2010, 10:23 PM
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Who can afford it if Apple bring out a product every six months ? I've been wanting a new Mac for 6 years but w'ar lass keeps spending all mi money 
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18 October 2010, 11:11 AM
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What I REALLY want from Apple is a Bluetooth keyboard that actually has a numerical keyboard on it - not that stupid mini keyboard.
Any fancy, trendy or multifunction keyboard either has no numerical keypad or is a "compact" version, with the scroll/insert/home buttons squished up, a small enter key and small shift/ctrl/alt keys. And if one did find a keyboard with a traditional layout, its usually a flimsy peice of crap probably assembled by an 8yr old kid in China.
Its why for a good many years I ran with a 15yr old ps/2 biege Cherry, built in Germany and wieghed more than a mac book, and it took its fair share of hammering back in the days of Doom and Duke Nuke'em without fail
(modern Cherry keyboards are just as naff now
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18 October 2010, 11:16 AM
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So the rumours seem to concentrate on a new Macbook Air, which isn't a bad thing, the Air was a game changer when released and is still a top notch laptop, if a little too fragile.
I'm hoping for something a little off the wall, touch screen iMac would be incredible especially if combined with the ability to run iPad applications.
No one is close to them in the PC market, but it'll do no harm to move a few more steps ahead.
With stock now over $300.00 and market leading innovative products popping up at a rate of knots, can anything slow them down?
I'm hoping for something a little off the wall, touch screen iMac would be incredible especially if combined with the ability to run iPad applications.
No one is close to them in the PC market, but it'll do no harm to move a few more steps ahead.
With stock now over $300.00 and market leading innovative products popping up at a rate of knots, can anything slow them down?
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18 October 2010, 02:25 PM
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If you want a keyboard this is what you need:
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/keyboa...rd/devices/192
The charge lasts so long I honestly cannot remember when I last charged it - it gets used irregularly and if you told me it had been over a year I'd believe you.
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/keyboa...rd/devices/192
The charge lasts so long I honestly cannot remember when I last charged it - it gets used irregularly and if you told me it had been over a year I'd believe you.
18 October 2010, 03:11 PM
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I have always had Macs instead of PC ( years of trouble free computing)though I haven't got an i pad or i phone. Ironically I know a couple of people who have i phones and i pods/pads but who still have horrible virus ridden PC's. When oh when will they see the light and fully embrace the apple? 
)though I haven't got an i pad or i phone. Ironically I know a couple of people who have i phones and i pods/pads but who still have horrible virus ridden PC's. When oh when will they see the light and fully embrace the apple?
18 October 2010, 06:47 PM
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Absolutely possible F1, but then anything is possible. Are there any viruses that are circulating right now, no.
I would say it would be very unlikely that you could run a pc without Antivirus software and not be infected, but very, very unlikely you'd get infected on a Mac.
I would say it would be very unlikely that you could run a pc without Antivirus software and not be infected, but very, very unlikely you'd get infected on a Mac.
18 October 2010, 07:27 PM
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Absolutely possible F1, but then anything is possible. Are there any viruses that are circulating right now, no.
I would say it would be very unlikely that you could run a pc without Antivirus software and not be infected, but very, very unlikely you'd get infected on a Mac.
I would say it would be very unlikely that you could run a pc without Antivirus software and not be infected, but very, very unlikely you'd get infected on a Mac.
The Mac OS is only really a GUI on a *nix platform and there ain't nothing special about that, plenty of loopholes found in various *nix systems that luckily for the main go unexploited but sometimes don't, just ask a webmaster who has been hacked for instance.
What makes me laugh (being in the industry as I am) is that Apple users often think their technology is superior becuase they 'can't get a virus' when actually the reverse is true in some ways. The day someone decides to write a proper virus for a Mac is going to be quite amusing.
18 October 2010, 07:59 PM
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Your argument is mute and has been for years. The number of OSX systems is now far larger than the target market of some of the most successful viruses. I worked in Antivirus for 12 years, your point was second only to Antivirus companies writing viruses.
18 October 2010, 08:11 PM
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So you are one of the blinkered people who think OSX is somehow immune to viruses. I actually thought you were cleverer than that and if you really worked in antivirus you know I am right.
Question, seeing as Unix has had plenty of exploits over the years how can you say OSX is not vulnerable? What 'magic' are Apple sprinkling upon their OS that makes it virus immune and do you not think if it were true that just maybe Microsoft might have had a look at what Apple are doing and emulated it?
There is nothing clever about OSX other than the marketing bollocks Apple spout about it!!!
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18 October 2010, 09:06 PM
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At no point did I say that OSX is immune from viruses. Fact is malware authoring is easier on Microsoft operating systems, nothing more, nothing less. Look up a friend of mine 'David Harley' if you'd like to learn more.
18 October 2010, 09:58 PM
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Fact is there are literally numerous papers out there written by software experts pointing out that OSX is no more secure than Windows. Stands to reason as it just *nix underneath the gloss. Read a few of them if YOU would like to learn more.
18 October 2010, 10:06 PM
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Try google, you'll find I've written a few papers myself. Here's a link to David's page http://macviruscom.wordpress.com/ I think you'll find it's factual rather than myopic.
20 October 2010, 08:13 PM
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Oh look ... http://www.dailytech.com/Apple+Intro...ticle19912.htm
"... Finally, Steve Jobs announced the new MacBook Air, which is supposed to combine the best of the MacBook and the iPad. The MacBook is 0.68 thin at its thickest point, it tapers down to just 0.11 inches at its thinnest point, and it weighs just 2.9 pounds. It features complete unibody construction, a 13.3” LED-backlit display (1440x900), Core 2 Duo processor, NVIDIA GeForce 320m graphics, 802.11n wireless, two USB ports, full-size keyboard, multi-touch trackpad, and FaceTime. The new MacBook Air forgoes optical and hard drives, and will rely solely on flash for storage. The battery is rated at 7 hours using standard wireless web tests (the previous MacBook Air got 5 hours), and it can run on standby for up to 30 days. ..."
Nothing like the latest technology. And this is nothing like the latest technology .....
Dave
"... Finally, Steve Jobs announced the new MacBook Air, which is supposed to combine the best of the MacBook and the iPad. The MacBook is 0.68 thin at its thickest point, it tapers down to just 0.11 inches at its thinnest point, and it weighs just 2.9 pounds. It features complete unibody construction, a 13.3” LED-backlit display (1440x900), Core 2 Duo processor, NVIDIA GeForce 320m graphics, 802.11n wireless, two USB ports, full-size keyboard, multi-touch trackpad, and FaceTime. The new MacBook Air forgoes optical and hard drives, and will rely solely on flash for storage. The battery is rated at 7 hours using standard wireless web tests (the previous MacBook Air got 5 hours), and it can run on standby for up to 30 days. ..."
Nothing like the latest technology. And this is nothing like the latest technology .....
Dave
20 October 2010, 09:11 PM
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Hopefully I'm putting a few people off buying Apple products, the stock's high enough and I prefered being in the minority.
Take the blinkers off Dave. You're missing the good stuff or are you hypnotised by big numbers?
So, what about the rebirth of the desktop application? Over the last 10 years we've become fixed in a browser window, Apple are changing that. Big news I'd say, fantastic for developers. I can't wait, iPhone app goodness on my desktop. Didn't someone laugh at me for suggesting just that?
Anyhow, awesome new hardware and software, well done Apple, the game has changed again.
Take the blinkers off Dave. You're missing the good stuff or are you hypnotised by big numbers?
So, what about the rebirth of the desktop application? Over the last 10 years we've become fixed in a browser window, Apple are changing that. Big news I'd say, fantastic for developers. I can't wait, iPhone app goodness on my desktop. Didn't someone laugh at me for suggesting just that?
Anyhow, awesome new hardware and software, well done Apple, the game has changed again.
20 October 2010, 11:48 PM
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Hopefully I'm putting a few people off buying Apple products, the stock's high enough and I prefered being in the minority.
Take the blinkers off Dave. You're missing the good stuff or are you hypnotised by big numbers?
So, what about the rebirth of the desktop application? Over the last 10 years we've become fixed in a browser window, Apple are changing that. Big news I'd say, fantastic for developers. I can't wait, iPhone app goodness on my desktop. Didn't someone laugh at me for suggesting just that?
Anyhow, awesome new hardware and software, well done Apple, the game has changed again.
Take the blinkers off Dave. You're missing the good stuff or are you hypnotised by big numbers?
So, what about the rebirth of the desktop application? Over the last 10 years we've become fixed in a browser window, Apple are changing that. Big news I'd say, fantastic for developers. I can't wait, iPhone app goodness on my desktop. Didn't someone laugh at me for suggesting just that?
Anyhow, awesome new hardware and software, well done Apple, the game has changed again.
Stick with the safe boring stuff Jack, and leave the fun stuff to the rest of us..
Who knows in about 4 more years, you might get a proper mobile phone
Mart
21 October 2010, 02:54 AM
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i just watched the keynote speech and i actually think that Apple are a serious competitor to Windows.
I am not an Apple person (although I am typing this from an iPad) but they have quite a compelling story. If I wanted a computer to just do stuff, I would probably buy a Mac.
I on the other hand want to be able to change memory, swap graphics cards, change hard disks and even Motherboard if I wish. My wife and children certainly do not want to do that......
Steve
I am not an Apple person (although I am typing this from an iPad) but they have quite a compelling story. If I wanted a computer to just do stuff, I would probably buy a Mac.
I on the other hand want to be able to change memory, swap graphics cards, change hard disks and even Motherboard if I wish. My wife and children certainly do not want to do that......
Steve
21 October 2010, 07:16 AM
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i caught the highlights. not a revolutionary keynote this time.
i love osx, but with an ipad ui on top?! what happened to austere simplicity?!
i have to say, i do not like the new MBAs. I would prefer my MBA to be the same shape as an iphone 4 - vertical sides, flat top and bottom, but obviously only 1cm thick. this cake cutter shape looks just like a vaio.
i love osx, but with an ipad ui on top?! what happened to austere simplicity?!
i have to say, i do not like the new MBAs. I would prefer my MBA to be the same shape as an iphone 4 - vertical sides, flat top and bottom, but obviously only 1cm thick. this cake cutter shape looks just like a vaio.
21 October 2010, 07:21 AM
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...as for viruses on osx? i think osx was found to be just as weak as windows.
Virus authors have a primary goal - to proliferate and propogate. Windows is a wise choice through sheer numbers and the massive number of un-upgraded OSs/IEs/etc.
OSX is finally starting to put its head above the firing line and in 3 years I am willing to wager we'll be needing virus protection on mac, just the same
Virus authors have a primary goal - to proliferate and propogate. Windows is a wise choice through sheer numbers and the massive number of un-upgraded OSs/IEs/etc.
OSX is finally starting to put its head above the firing line and in 3 years I am willing to wager we'll be needing virus protection on mac, just the same
21 October 2010, 07:54 AM
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...as for viruses on osx? i think osx was found to be just as weak as windows.
Virus authors have a primary goal - to proliferate and propogate. Windows is a wise choice through sheer numbers and the massive number of un-upgraded OSs/IEs/etc.
OSX is finally starting to put its head above the firing line and in 3 years I am willing to wager we'll be needing virus protection on mac, just the same
Virus authors have a primary goal - to proliferate and propogate. Windows is a wise choice through sheer numbers and the massive number of un-upgraded OSs/IEs/etc.
OSX is finally starting to put its head above the firing line and in 3 years I am willing to wager we'll be needing virus protection on mac, just the same
21 October 2010, 08:40 AM
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Lets look on the bright side, Apple have introduced some features unseen before, surely that's good news, progression. What did Windows 7 bring us, a cut down and working version of Vista. Come on, you've got to hand it to Apple, they're successful due to innovation and love for their customers, if Microsoft did a little of that we'd all be happier. As it is they're going to spend a billion advertising Windows phone 7 which is a reaction to the innovations seen in iOS.
As for the virus thing, you really should run Antivirus on your Mac now, even if self replicating malware is virtually non existent, there are plenty of other ways for you to be affected.
As for the virus thing, you really should run Antivirus on your Mac now, even if self replicating malware is virtually non existent, there are plenty of other ways for you to be affected.