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Old 19 October 2010, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Flaps
I think the subtle side of it could actually be the problem. I'm an enthusiast who wants a Hawk STI but with the lary extras. If I was after a discreet car with leather interior i'd probably change brand and get something with better mpg and cheaper tax.
I disagree with that. My car was an even more subtle Spec D and I sold it for a few grand more than what this chap is asking. I had a fair bit of interest too. There is, or was, a decent market of people who want a fast car without the embarrassment that comes with the stigma of big plastic parts and cheap looking interiors.

The problem with this car is as has been stated, the mileage. Not many people would invest £10k into a car that has done that kind of mileage as on average a car should be 6-7 years old by the time it has covered that kind of distance. People associate age with mileage.
Old 19 October 2010, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ_Jon
If it makes you feel better my 26k spec d is still unsold after a month on the market. Saying that I could have sold it for 11k the other day, but I'd rather keep it than give it away. Hold out for the right money/buyer
Yeah, I have been keeping an eye on yours, just to see how much interest you had.
Old 19 October 2010, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan W
There an old selling trick that buyers fall for, that being - expensive = good.

The opposite is also true - cheap = poor quality.

You should up the asking price, you got nothing to lose as nobodys interested at the moment. No offence.

A psychologist called Robert Cialdini has spent his carreer looking at how to influence people. The expensive = good trap has been used for decades.

Give it a go.
Exactly Perception is everything
Old 19 October 2010, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 53WRX
Exactly Perception is everything
I can see where you are coming from but surely they will compare mine to others on the market and think 'Why should I pay more for one with higher mileage privately when I can get a lower mileage one from a dealer for less?' That is why I have priced it at the price it is at. It compares favourably with those of a similar plate/mileage.
Old 19 October 2010, 09:33 PM
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'Why should I pay more for one with higher mileage privately when I can get a lower mileage one from a dealer for less?'
Because perception is everything !

Dealers, independents ? sharks more like.

Well cared for cars from private sales have their own appeal. Buyers, whilst they want a bargain, also want to see what you value the car at ! Knocking someone down from 5 figures to 4 figures feels good all day long !

Try it

FWIW not every buyer trawls sales sites making model comparisons, and if they do it's quite possible their search criteria is list cars 10k+

IMHO £9995 makes your car look unwanted.
Old 19 October 2010, 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by bluesntwos1
Yeah, I have been keeping an eye on yours, just to see how much interest you had.
I've had a fair bit of interest, from some guy offering me the full price but wanting to pay in installments over 2 years, to being offered 8k & being told that I was lucky to be offerred that because my car is a lower spec model

It's all water off a ducks back to me, personaly I'm not in a massive rush to sell, but when the right buyer comes along & sees the condition of my car they will buy it. The Market is slow at the minute, that's all.
Old 19 October 2010, 10:04 PM
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[QUOTE=Mikkel;9665273]I disagree with that. My car was an even more subtle Spec D and I sold it for a few grand more than what this chap is asking. I had a fair bit of interest too. There is, or was, a decent market of people who want a fast car without the embarrassment that comes with the stigma of big plastic parts and cheap looking interiors.


Total agree with the above
Old 19 October 2010, 10:06 PM
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I agree too, the spec d interior is a lot better wearing than a STD sti, especially the armrests on the doorcards.
Old 20 October 2010, 12:08 AM
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When I sold my Focus ST and WRX Wagon I used Autotrader, Both took about 6 weeks maybe more to sell. The 1st person to see each bought it. I used the online only package as it seemed a reasonable price. I didn't want to give either car away but on the other hand you have to be selling at the right price. I looked at it from the buyers point of view. If the car was massively under priced for the year then people think whats wrong, has it been stolen recovered? damaged/repaired etc? I searched autotrader nationally for the same year/spec and priced mine at the lower end. What car and other sites do price guides so you know where to aim. I got a trade in price from dealers and worked on the principal anything better than that was a bonus. If you were buying a car you would check first to see how much it was worth, selling is the reverse. Look at other peoples adverts and copy the format which you think is best listing all the accessories and spec of the vehicle. You might know your car has electric windows and central locking for example but a buyer might not. You have to tell them.
Old 20 October 2010, 07:06 AM
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Seems like you Spec D owners don't agree with me then!

53 WRX has a good point about the price, yours wouldn't show up in my search results. Nothing to lose by putting the price up.

Dj-Jon, i've never been in a Spec D but the pictures i've seen on various adverts always look like the base of the seats are quickly aged and look heavily creased. I've never seen a second hand leather interior that still looked like new (no need to post pictures of yours, i'm just reporting back on what i've seen for sale), so i'd say the seats at least appear better wearing in the standard STI.

Mileage shows use and people assume that these cars are driven hard which would lead you to expect quite a few parts would need replacing soon. Same if it has many owners, you could assume it had either lots of problems or they just wragged it and passed it on, neither make it look desireable.

One last point, has anyone actually noticed the difference in value between car valuation sites? Mine changed by nearly £2k!
Old 20 October 2010, 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Mikkel
I disagree with that. My car was an even more subtle Spec D and I sold it for a few grand more than what this chap is asking.
The thing I don't like about the Spec D is the crappy WRX ironing board on the back, the lip spoiler you had on yours looked really good.

I personally wouldn't buy a 4 year old car with 65k, I suppose if there is no interest the OP is going to have to think about dropping the price/part exing.
Old 20 October 2010, 10:57 AM
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The WRX spoiler is a bit naff, but I prefer it for rear visibility. The seats in mine have worn very little. I agree that leather requires more attention than cloth though.
Old 20 October 2010, 04:38 PM
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If high mileage is a killer on used prices, what about a rebuild of engine and suspension from a reputable builder ?

Would a new block and struts be better or worse than a 40k miles car with the original kit ?
Old 20 October 2010, 06:36 PM
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just bought a 86k fsh wrx 2003, mint.

www.subaruhighmileageclub.com
Old 20 October 2010, 07:00 PM
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www.subaruhighmileageclub.com

The members look like swingers, I might join. Is there a link to the mile high club from their site?
Old 20 October 2010, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by gino
just bought a 86k fsh wrx 2003, mint.

www.subaruhighmileageclub.com
How much?
Old 20 October 2010, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo69
I had my 6 speed refurbed at 40k miles

The 03 boxes seem to suffer with crap syncros, so had to have them replaced with the carbon ones from the later boxes.
How much was your refurb :-) sorry for the hijack.
Old 20 October 2010, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 53WRX
Because perception is everything !

Dealers, independents ? sharks more like.

Well cared for cars from private sales have their own appeal. Buyers, whilst they want a bargain, also want to see what you value the car at ! Knocking someone down from 5 figures to 4 figures feels good all day long !

Try it

FWIW not every buyer trawls sales sites making model comparisons, and if they do it's quite possible their search criteria is list cars 10k+

IMHO £9995 makes your car look unwanted.
I have to agree. The thing with the expensive = Good rule is that people who are liable to fall for it abandon the rationale. If you car is more expensive some people will for no apprenet reason other than the high price conclude that there MUST be something special about it as it priced higher.

A true story is of a guy who went to buy an engagement ring for his girlfriend. When he saw the ring he wnated to buy her which happened to be over a thoasand quid the store offered him a reduction which he declined because if his girlfriend was to find out that he paid less than he needed to she was think it crap quality and not appreciate it.

The same goes for those off the upper classes who like to brag about how much particular items cost them, under the false impression that paying a high price buys you a quality item.

How many of you out there when browsing shop windows lookng at. ... let say watches..... think to yourself that a fifty quid watch is some how of lesser quality than a 400 quid watch?

Robert cialdini the psychologist I mentioned earlier has demonstrated through numerous studies how poeople, logic, rationale and powers of reason can be thrown straight out the window, makin them easy targets for someone after some cash.
Old 21 October 2010, 09:51 PM
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Ok, following advice, I have changed my ad and price. Will see how it goes. Can't get any less interest!!!

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2188506.htm
Old 21 October 2010, 10:05 PM
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When I decided I wanted a classic I knew I was going to have a problem with mileage! I was lucky enough to find one with 87k and 14 years old, FSSH (and keep all my receipts anyway) and in lovely nick. Only done 90k now.
Good luck with your sale, any decent buyer will want the service history.
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Good luck with your sale, think I will be keeping mine for a while now.
Old 22 October 2010, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by bluesntwos1
Ok, following advice, I have changed my ad and price. Will see how it goes. Can't get any less interest!!!

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2188506.htm
Good Luck,

Dan
Old 22 October 2010, 04:14 PM
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Overpriced IMHO
Old 14 November 2010, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 53WRX
Overpriced IMHO
I think you must be right. Been on at that price now for 3 weeks. Not a single call or e-mail. I think the world must be broke!
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Have reduced to sell now!
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Originally Posted by Moley_WRX
I saw one for sale with 50k, but had just had a re-con gearbox, which i thought was odd for a 6 speed.

Checked the reg at work and i'd insured the car 2 years before..... when it'd done 120k+!!!

'Lower mileage' ones aren't always a better choice!!!
I hope you informed the authorities.
Old 15 November 2010, 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by bluesntwos1
I think you must be right. Been on at that price now for 3 weeks. Not a single call or e-mail. I think the world must be broke!
Was only pulling your leg It will sell eventually but no-one is buying at the moment it would seem.
Old 15 November 2010, 12:25 PM
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When I was a salesman at a Subaru stealer, the 'D' in spec D was known as Death as no one would touch one as they were so hard to sell. I think there was one dealer in the midlands area who was the only person in the country who could shift the bloody things.

We used to be able to pick them up for £3-4 k less than standard ones as a result, but never took the gamble. A fair few of them ended up being International Motors company cars and they were often found on Subaru Direct.

Good luck with the sale.
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