You think you've got it bad! Try living here, the towns coat of arms is a cripple cart and an incontinence bag.

 

obesity.

my dad got his blue badge revoked and it drives him mental when a fat ****** waddles out of the car to stock up on ready meals

shouldn't they park further away that'll kind of solve the problem surely?

 

All you need to do is report them in store and they will announce it for the whole shop to hear and tut at

 

I find it very disappointing to see some of the remarks and the mocking by some of the disabled.

If those people ever do become genuinely disabled themselves they might then understand why blue badges are handed out to those who because of their problems are disadvantaged in comparison to those who are fully fit.

A disabled badge may be used by the owner in any car regardless of who is driving it. Those who use another person's badge without the owner being in the car, as well as being dishonest can also cause the owner to lose their badge. The disabled may only use the badge if they are going to get out of that car for their own purposes.

The extra width of a disabled parking bay is to make the disabled person able to open the door fully thus making it easier or in many cases even possible for them to be able to get in and out of the car. Sometimes in order to be able to cope with a wheelchair.

There are of course some who may well not deserve to have a blue badge, but there are many possible reasons for the issue of the badge, many of which may not be apparent to the onlooker. Heart problems etc. for one example.

The holder of the badge can be identified by the photo on the back of the badge by the way.

Let me say that those who park in a disabled bay without a badge, even if there is more than one space free are being totaly selfish. You have no idea whether others will turn up who need to use the bays as their entitlement. Those who do that should be ashamed of themselves.

Dings in doors etc. are no excuse for that kind of behaviour. Trying to make a joke out of it or mocking the disabled does not justify it and it can only be put down to straight jealousy which is nothing to be proud about.

Les

 

Why would anyone be jealous of someone with a disability? That just doesn't make sense Les.

 

I think the whole disabled badge holder / disabled parking thing need a damn good shake up. I worked with someone recently who's wife was issued with a disabled badge because she has a form of arthritis. She is 32, she has mild arthritis which sometimes affects her hands. She has a Saab 95 on DLA based on convincing someone she was unable to unlock the doors of her 206 on some days because her hands were so sore (dont both these car doors unlock in the same way from inside???) why on earth she needs a disabled badge I will never know. What is the ratio for disabled bays compared with normal bays. At my local hospital there is a car park, which is around one fifth of the total public parking capacity, it can accommodate around 70 cars. I have never seen more than 5 cars in it at one time. Same at my local Tesco. I think there are so many bays some people see no problem occupying them even if they are not blue badge holders.

There is also a cantankerous old c**t that lives near me who has acquired a disabled persons scooter. This old fool rides this thing on the road, in all weathers, doing a steady 8mph, on a winding national speed limit road. It is only a matter of time before he ends up as roadkill.

 

I think the whole disabled badge holder / disabled parking thing need a damn good shake up. I worked with someone recently who's wife was issued with a disabled badge because she has a form of arthritis. She is 32, she has mild arthritis which sometimes affects her hands. She has a Saab 95 on DLA based on convincing someone she was unable to unlock the doors of her 206 on some days because her hands were so sore (dont both these car doors unlock in the same way from inside???) why on earth she needs a disabled badge I will never know. What is the ratio for disabled bays compared with normal bays. At my local hospital there is a car park, which is around one fifth of the total public parking capacity, it can accommodate around 70 cars. I have never seen more than 5 cars in it at one time. Same at my local Tesco. I think there are so many bays some people see no problem occupying them even if they are not blue badge holders.

There is also a cantankerous old c**t that lives near me who has acquired a disabled persons scooter. This old fool rides this thing on the road, in all weathers, doing a steady 8mph, on a winding national speed limit road. It is only a matter of time before he ends up as roadkill. oh and he things the highway code doesn't apply to him.

 

I just don't believe that you are too stupid to understand what I meant by that statement!

Try thinking again, what did I really mean generated the feelings of jealousy?

Les

 

When i am driving, these things should be on the pavement. When i am walking, they should be on the road. Or perhaps ban them all together.
Seriously, they should only be available to disabled people, and not, as it seems around here, available to anyone that can't be arsed to walk to the pub or the shops. FFS we have teenagers riding around on them with 2 or 3 of their mates hanging off the back.
And whilst i'm at it, fecking electric bikes on the footpath. Whats that about, they have lights and indicators, get on the road where you belong. I made a wimmin stop the other day whilst out walking the mut, she had her small child on the back of it and thought she was perfectly in the right to force me on to the curb whilst she whistled on her merry way. Wrong, as she found out.

And breath.

 

Before you shoot your mouth off in such a nasty manner, you should consider that you might just become arthritic yourself. You would then discover that it means a life of constant pain and inablity to do the things that you find very easy to do.

Also referring to that elderly man with his disabled scooter the way you have done is unforgivable. Why shouldn't he use the scooter when he needs it to get about? Any decent minded motorist will give him all the room he needs and slow down for safety's sake. We have a few like that round here and everyone gives way for them.

It is almost as though you were at the back of the queue when they were handing out respect and consideration for other people. Nothing clever or to be proud about by making a post like that!

Les

 

Perhaps not Les. Maybe i chose to be stupid at the time. Like many choose to be disabled when it suits. At least my pretence doesn't cost anyone anything.

 

I don't park in disabled spaces, and see no reason to do so. If you are doing it to avoid dings on your car then you are a very sad and pathetic individual and need to realize it's really just a car and there are more important things in life.

As others have mentioned, it may not be the driver who is disabled but one of their passengers, and as such I believe they are rightly entitled to use the bays. If they are using the badge when it is just them in the car then that is not on, and I think quite a few people do this.

I would also say there are some lazy buggers who are claiming to be disabled when they are not and abusing the system, and these are as bad as the anti-dent brigade.

 

I can understand someone who's mobility is impaired due to arthritis being issued with a disabled badge, or even issued with the higher rate DLA allowance and vehicle. No real problem with this, but someone who gets soreness and stiffness in their hands only, is in my opinion is doing someone with greater mobility impairment out of funding assisted transport, on a near fraudulent basis. I have a friend who lost some limbs in a terrorist attack, in my view, Paul is a worthy case for a disabled drivers permit, this other individual who is fully mobile - does not need a DLA vehicle or a disabled drivers permit.

I have plenty of respect for others once it is earned, and consideration where it is due thanks Les, but this old geezer, is wholly representative of my description of him. He uses my dropped kerb, at my driveway which I paid to have installed, to get down to road level. As per council instructions, my wheelie bins must be placed at the end of my driveway, where they are collected and left by the refuse collectors. The bin men left my bins obstructing this old fool's access to my dropped kerb, so he thought it would be wise to knock both bins over onto the road. I stopped him to ask him to account for his actions, and the tirade of abuse was incredible. On another occasion my brothers wife visited my house and parked across the end of my drive, this old fool decided to batter the side of her car, because he couldn't get down of the pavement, and it was too narrow for him to turn around.

This is not a frail vulnerable old man, he is a nasty cantankerous old fool who puts legitimate road users, and by that I mean those who are insured and licensed to be on the road, at risk and will (if he hasn't already) cause a serious collision from which he will no doubt walk (or drive away in his scooter) free of blame.

 

Oh and when are they going to start Road Taxing these wheelchair users? Worse than cyclists.

 

Isn't 'your' dropped kerb part of a public highway?

 

Some are already taxed Jamz. But geuss what, yeah you got it, it's free!

 

Nope - it is under application to have it adopted it has been so for almost 2 years. At this point in time, if anything happens to that strip of tarmac, I must repair it at my cost - so for the short term it is mine - if this old git falls off his scooter while using it he can in theory sue me.

 

that would be the only time i would be careless when opening the door
But on a serious note i think your mate was just pulling your leg, is your middle name Gullible by any chance??

 

So thats at 32, whats she going to be like in another 5 years. Badges are only given to people who are on disabilty benefit and even then you still have to prove you need one so she must need it?

 

Cant answer what she will be like 5 years from now. Maybe then her car and badge will be justified. Following that theory Steve, there would be no fraudulently claimed benefits in the UK - I don't think it is a case of proving anything, it is a matter of convincing those who make the decisions, a bit of play acting on the day perhaps or selective in the facts presented on the application forms maybe???

Not sure why these DLA cars need to be brand new motors either. Lots of decent enough cars handed over in the scrapage scheme. Why not re-issue these as DLA cars?

A quick look around the web turned up the following

£1bn in 2005 fraudulently claimed or paid in error as DLA.

The criteria for claiming the allowance...

Annex A: Overview of the benefit
Background
A.1 Disability Living Allowance is a non-contributory benefit payable to people who
because of illness/disability need personal and/or mobility help and claim
before their 65th birthday.
A.2 The need for help with personal care or getting around must have existed for
three months and must be expected to exist for at least a further six months.
Customers who are terminally ill do not have to satisfy this qualifying period.
Awards may be for a limited period or for an indefinite period.
A.3 Disability Living Allowance has two components to help customers with the
extra costs which arise as a result of their illness or disability and the help that
they need.
A.4 The rate payable depends on how much care a customer needs (care
component) and the amount of difficulty a customer has in getting around
outdoors (mobility component).
Care component
A.5 The care component is for customers who need help with personal care. There
are three rates depending on the amount of care a customer needs.
A.6 The highest rate is payable if a customer needs help both day and night.
A.7 The middle rate is payable if a customer needs help during the day or night.
A.8 The lowest rate is payable if a customer needs some help during some of the
day (but less than the middle rate), or, if age 16 or over, is unable to prepare a
cooked main meal for themselves if they had the ingredients.
A.9 Terminally ill customers (i.e. customers who have a life expectancy of less than
six months) will qualify for the highest rate of the care component straight away
without the need to serve a qualifying period and regardless of any care needs
they may have.
Mobility component
A.10 The higher-rate mobility component is payable if a customer:-
• cannot walk at all; or
• is virtually unable to walk; or
• has had both legs amputated at or above the ankle, or was born
without legs or feet; or
• is both deaf and blind and needs someone with them when outdoors;
• is severely mentally impaired with severe behavioural problems and is
receiving the highest rate of care component; or
• would, by making the effort required to walk, endanger their life or
cause deterioration in their health.
16
A.11 The lower rate is payable if a customer can walk but needs someone with them
to provide guidance or supervision for most of the time when they are outdoors
or on unfamiliar routes.

 

Cant answer what she will be like 5 years from now. Maybe then her car and badge will be justified. Following that theory Steve, there would be no fraudulently claimed benefits in the UK - I don't think it is a case of proving anything, it is a matter of convincing those who make the decisions, a bit of play acting on the day perhaps or selective in the facts presented on the application forms maybe???

Not sure why these DLA cars need to be brand new motors either. Lots of decent enough cars handed over in the scrapage scheme. Why not re-issue these as DLA cars?

A quick look around the web turned up the following

£1bn in 2005 fraudulently claimed or paid in error as DLA.

The criteria for claiming the allowance...

Annex A: Overview of the benefit
Background
A.1 Disability Living Allowance is a non-contributory benefit payable to people who
because of illness/disability need personal and/or mobility help and claim
before their 65th birthday.
A.2 The need for help with personal care or getting around must have existed for
three months and must be expected to exist for at least a further six months.
Customers who are terminally ill do not have to satisfy this qualifying period.
Awards may be for a limited period or for an indefinite period.
A.3 Disability Living Allowance has two components to help customers with the
extra costs which arise as a result of their illness or disability and the help that
they need.
A.4 The rate payable depends on how much care a customer needs (care
component) and the amount of difficulty a customer has in getting around
outdoors (mobility component).
Care component
A.5 The care component is for customers who need help with personal care. There
are three rates depending on the amount of care a customer needs.
A.6 The highest rate is payable if a customer needs help both day and night.
A.7 The middle rate is payable if a customer needs help during the day or night.
A.8 The lowest rate is payable if a customer needs some help during some of the
day (but less than the middle rate), or, if age 16 or over, is unable to prepare a
cooked main meal for themselves if they had the ingredients.
A.9 Terminally ill customers (i.e. customers who have a life expectancy of less than
six months) will qualify for the highest rate of the care component straight away
without the need to serve a qualifying period and regardless of any care needs
they may have.
Mobility component
A.10 The higher-rate mobility component is payable if a customer:-
• cannot walk at all; or
• is virtually unable to walk; or
• has had both legs amputated at or above the ankle, or was born
without legs or feet; or
• is both deaf and blind and needs someone with them when outdoors;
• is severely mentally impaired with severe behavioural problems and is
receiving the highest rate of care component; or
• would, by making the effort required to walk, endanger their life or
cause deterioration in their health.
16
A.11 The lower rate is payable if a customer can walk but needs someone with them
to provide guidance or supervision for most of the time when they are outdoors
or on unfamiliar routes.

 

A blue badge doesn't mean the car allowance I think my missus could get the car allowance but she has never tried to claim for it as I earn a good wage. The blue badge is just a parking priveledge and thats all

 

Yes fair enough. If he is that irritating I can understand how you feel. I presume he is fit enough to walk normally then. A miserable old git then!

I just got the initial impression that you disagreed with anyone getting any kind of disability allowance or help, there certainly are people who think like that.

The Bue badge does not automatically entitle anyone to claim for a new car under the Motability Scheme unless you are getting full mobility benefits.

Les

 

I know a girl in her 20s with CF and is about as disabled as you can get but they refuse her a badge, then give one to some dick head who complains his knee hurts a few times at the docs. People who really need one are denied then other blatently abusing the system.

 

P1ss takers who park in disabled bays because, well because they're this p1ss taking lazy underclass we have in UK society who dont give a monkey's about anyone but themselves, all they need a swift crack to the knees with a baseball bat, let them earn the right to park there, failing that, shoot them.

 

LOL this guy is disabled and in a wheel chair but can easily knock over bins and damage a car. If it was me he would find a puncture in his wheelchair tires and id still feel i owed him more. On a serious note not all old people are old and bitter and some are really appriciative of help.

Example old lady lived opposite me. complianed to council that i worked in my garage, on my own car. Admittedly others also but mainly friends neighbours etc. and mostly favours. She told them id had an uncontrollable fire lol. the letter i got from council was laughed at it was so unreal. I hated her with a passion but then one day she hobbled over as her electric mobility scooter was flat and wouldnt start. had the cheek to ask my help. me been the kind sole i am sorted it for her. she then never complained again. she now speaks all the time. im not sure the moral of this but my kind turn changed her attitude towards what i was doing maybe she reliased i was helping people out.

 

did you charge her a cheeky 20 dabs?

 

Glad you are all sorted with the elderly lady now. Surprising how you can change someone's attitude with a kindly act as you did. She had obviously formed an unfair impression of you at first.

Certainly a lot better to be on friendly terms with the neighbours anyway!

Difficult to believe that some prat can refuse a CF sufferer a blue badge!

Les

 

Look you dopey hure - disabled toilets are so they can get a wheelchair in

 

I was listening to some liberal on the radio the other day making a case for people on dla to have sex workers paid for by the taxpayer

Surely if you are really disabled, having some fit bird banging away on your todger could finish you off.