Turkish accession to the EU?
25 October 2010, 01:32 PM
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Has anyone considered that Turkey has the second largest army in NATO and has the strategic advantage of bordering Iran? Then there's the Nabucco pipeline, significant natural resources and its secular/Islamic set-up which should surely be embraced and nurtured (Turkey prohibits by law the wearing of religious headcover in government buildings, schools, and universities). A number of advantages, I'm sure you'll agree and why both the Tory and Labour leadership support its accession. On the flipside you have Sarkosy who's opposed fearing mass immigration and believing this outweighs all of the advantages. Allthough quite why anyone would want to leave a warm, spacious, democratic country is beyond me.
I've been undecided on the issue for a while, its always the spectre of a Trojan horse that stops me fully supporting accession.
I've been undecided on the issue for a while, its always the spectre of a Trojan horse that stops me fully supporting accession.
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25 October 2010, 02:01 PM
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Yep, whilst I'm not sure it negates the other points, it's certainly an issue.
25 October 2010, 03:20 PM
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25 October 2010, 08:41 PM
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From 1571 to 1925 cyprus was turkish. The british anexed it in 1925 and then the arguments started. From the turkish viewpoint they invaded after a coup by greek army officers that wanted to make cyprus greek. With out getting in too involved in the specifics I can understand turkeys reasons for invading. I can also understand why the greek cypriots are still pissed off about it. The turkish were also happy to unite the island as one again it was the Greeks who did not want this to happen.
25 October 2010, 09:01 PM
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From 1571 to 1925 cyprus was turkish. The british anexed it in 1925 and then the arguments started. From the turkish viewpoint they invaded after a coup by greek army officers that wanted to make cyprus greek. With out getting in too involved in the specifics I can understand turkeys reasons for invading. I can also understand why the greek cypriots are still pissed off about it. The turkish were also happy to unite the island as one again it was the Greeks who did not want this to happen.
I much less interesting place for sure
25 October 2010, 09:34 PM
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From 1571 to 1925 cyprus was turkish. The british anexed it in 1925 and then the arguments started. From the turkish viewpoint they invaded after a coup by greek army officers that wanted to make cyprus greek. With out getting in too involved in the specifics I can understand turkeys reasons for invading. I can also understand why the greek cypriots are still pissed off about it. The turkish were also happy to unite the island as one again it was the Greeks who did not want this to happen.
Turkey ignores UN resolutions and committed ethnic cleansing.
When it was Israel doing this the Muslim world is up in arms.
Hypocricy?
25 October 2010, 10:02 PM
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Why should cyprus be Greek ? Go look on a map and see where Cyprus is ie right by turkey and far away from Greece. Turkey was happy for Cyprus to be independant.
25 October 2010, 10:19 PM
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Why should it be Greek? How about 'cos the vast majority of the population are of Greek origin?
[pic]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ethnographic-1.jpg[/pic]
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25 October 2010, 10:27 PM
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I can hardly accept that the deporting of 170 thousand greeks from northern cyprus is ethnic cleansing any more than the turkish kicked out of southern cyprus was. If one side was guilty of ethinic cleansing ten both were.
25 October 2010, 10:29 PM
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So what is your definition of ethnic cleansing then, if not the enforced deporting of people based on ethnic origin?
25 October 2010, 11:05 PM
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Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying there is anything right or wrong with ethnic cleansing - that is another matter all together.
25 October 2010, 11:20 PM
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From 1571 to 1925 cyprus was turkish. The british anexed it in 1925 and then the arguments started. From the turkish viewpoint they invaded after a coup by greek army officers that wanted to make cyprus greek. With out getting in too involved in the specifics I can understand turkeys reasons for invading. I can also understand why the greek cypriots are still pissed off about it. The turkish were also happy to unite the island as one again it was the Greeks who did not want this to happen.
26 October 2010, 10:07 AM
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timur 1+
saved me a lot of writing
the majority if kebab shops you see by the way are Kurdish not Turkish a lot of them say there Turkish.
I have been to Cyprus 3 in 5 years beautiful place and the people there as genuine as u will get. in my friends wedding day he needed a haircut no one was home with no keys too. he said Mus don't worry leave the doors open will come back in a few hours and we returned to his hours in two hours noone broke in or stole anything. it's a nice pleasant place by te way that's the Turkish side in yeni bouaz ici it's village near famugosta. you never hear of pedos or murders or rapes as much as you would hear in hear. a lot of them have respect out there which something clearly some ****** lack here. I spoke to people about the war in the 70s and to be honest lot of interesting views.
saved me a lot of writing
the majority if kebab shops you see by the way are Kurdish not Turkish a lot of them say there Turkish.
I have been to Cyprus 3 in 5 years beautiful place and the people there as genuine as u will get. in my friends wedding day he needed a haircut no one was home with no keys too. he said Mus don't worry leave the doors open will come back in a few hours and we returned to his hours in two hours noone broke in or stole anything. it's a nice pleasant place by te way that's the Turkish side in yeni bouaz ici it's village near famugosta. you never hear of pedos or murders or rapes as much as you would hear in hear. a lot of them have respect out there which something clearly some ****** lack here. I spoke to people about the war in the 70s and to be honest lot of interesting views.
26 October 2010, 10:21 AM
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I'm against Turkey joining the EU, mostly as it doesn't meet the entry criteria but also as it will mean more Turks heading here under the free movement banner, to an already overly full UK. It has nothing to do with Islam or Muslims, just the fact that I'm getting sick to death of the constant and unending stream of immigrants who's sole mission seems to be to get to the UK so they can cash in on our welfare support systems...
26 October 2010, 10:57 AM
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Has anyone considered that Turkey has the second largest army in NATO and has the strategic advantage of bordering Iran? Then there's the Nabucco pipeline, significant natural resources and its secular/Islamic set-up which should surely be embraced and nurtured (Turkey prohibits by law the wearing of religious headcover in government buildings, schools, and universities). A number of advantages, I'm sure you'll agree and why both the Tory and Labour leadership support its accession. On the flipside you have Sarkosy who's opposed fearing mass immigration and believing this outweighs all of the advantages. Allthough quite why anyone would want to leave a warm, spacious, democratic country is beyond me.
I've been undecided on the issue for a while, its always the spectre of a Trojan horse that stops me fully supporting accession.
I've been undecided on the issue for a while, its always the spectre of a Trojan horse that stops me fully supporting accession.
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26 October 2010, 11:47 AM
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and that about sums them up, and this morning the PM is backing them as a worthy country 
26 October 2010, 12:02 PM
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You racist keyboard cowboys.
I am Turk!
Do you know the %73 of the population in Turkiye voted not to enter your diseased union EU. So what do you vote for?
Türkiye will keep applying some european norms but will not be a part of EU in the future. We will constitute our union in the eastern and we don't need you there.
I am Turk!
Do you know the %73 of the population in Turkiye voted not to enter your diseased union EU. So what do you vote for?
Türkiye will keep applying some european norms but will not be a part of EU in the future. We will constitute our union in the eastern and we don't need you there.
26 October 2010, 12:07 PM
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You racist keyboard cowboys.
I am Turk!
Do you know the %73 of the population in Turkiye voted not to enter your diseased union. So what do vote for?
Türkiye will keep applying some european norms but will not be a part of EU in the future. We will constitute our union in the eastern and we don't need you there.
I am Turk!
Do you know the %73 of the population in Turkiye voted not to enter your diseased union. So what do vote for?
Türkiye will keep applying some european norms but will not be a part of EU in the future. We will constitute our union in the eastern and we don't need you there.
26 October 2010, 12:16 PM
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You racist keyboard cowboys.
I am Turk!
Do you know the %73 of the population in Turkiye voted not to enter your diseased union EU. So what do you vote for?
Türkiye will keep applying some european norms but will not be a part of EU in the future. We will constitute our union in the eastern and we don't need you there.
26 October 2010, 12:33 PM
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most Turkish Cypriots have been here since the 70s and the majority have jobs business. If anything they contributed a lot. very rare to any of them come to my office and try and get property on benefits.