Turkish accession to the EU?
27 October 2010, 03:37 PM
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i dont support any war on anyone...
war cost money and the war aint going to benfit me or you in any way. as british citizen i want better schools, shorter waiting list in hospitals safer streets. hense fix your home first...
better schools will educate the new generation,
better hospitals ive been waiting for knee reconstruction operation for nearly a year.
safer streets my brother was recently mugged at knife point.
the money thats waisted on war can benfit us all. thats why i dont agree with there policy on war.
MY DAD ALWAYS SAYS IF ANY COUNTRY COMES TO FIGHT THE UK THEN WE WILL FIGHT FOR THE UK NO MATTER WHO IT IS. AS THIS IS OUR HOME so if some random muslim country decides to occupy us then me and my family will die for this country. but for me to go and to another country @iraq@ and rob them for there resources that i refuse to support as its opression.
sorry about my spelling english is my 2nd language.
war cost money and the war aint going to benfit me or you in any way. as british citizen i want better schools, shorter waiting list in hospitals safer streets. hense fix your home first...
better schools will educate the new generation,
better hospitals ive been waiting for knee reconstruction operation for nearly a year.
safer streets my brother was recently mugged at knife point.
the money thats waisted on war can benfit us all. thats why i dont agree with there policy on war.
MY DAD ALWAYS SAYS IF ANY COUNTRY COMES TO FIGHT THE UK THEN WE WILL FIGHT FOR THE UK NO MATTER WHO IT IS. AS THIS IS OUR HOME so if some random muslim country decides to occupy us then me and my family will die for this country. but for me to go and to another country @iraq@ and rob them for there resources that i refuse to support as its opression.
sorry about my spelling english is my 2nd language.
27 October 2010, 03:46 PM
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Are you joking me ? Do you actually believe that ? It is clear that you know nothing about the enforced industrial meltdown of Iraq and the mechanisms for transporting all of Iraqs wealth to the USA's largest companies.
27 October 2010, 03:59 PM
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What 'wealth transfer'?
The US lost money with Iraq despite it enriching some companies at the US's taxpyers expense.
27 October 2010, 04:18 PM
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tony i suggest you watch the zeitgeist addendum you will be suprised three parts to it. its a must watch. condalicer rice is also a director of an oil refinarry.
27 October 2010, 04:22 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-CpCUOygqU
american soldier his views on the war he aint muslim thats someone views someone who was actully there. not some politician sitting in his palace telling us porkies. the above video is 4 minutes long an american soldier hear what he has to say. from the horses mouth not what i say. and then give an opinion
american soldier his views on the war he aint muslim thats someone views someone who was actully there. not some politician sitting in his palace telling us porkies. the above video is 4 minutes long an american soldier hear what he has to say. from the horses mouth not what i say. and then give an opinion
27 October 2010, 05:40 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-CpCUOygqU
american soldier his views on the war he aint muslim thats someone views someone who was actully there. not some politician sitting in his palace telling us porkies. the above video is 4 minutes long an american soldier hear what he has to say. from the horses mouth not what i say. and then give an opinion
american soldier his views on the war he aint muslim thats someone views someone who was actully there. not some politician sitting in his palace telling us porkies. the above video is 4 minutes long an american soldier hear what he has to say. from the horses mouth not what i say. and then give an opinion
28 October 2010, 11:46 AM
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28 October 2010, 02:53 PM
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And you're asking people who reject Enlightenment thinking, submit to a bronze age sky fairy and employ wishthinking under the pain of death to observe this. I'm with you on it but dialogue is beginning to seem futile. Q. Do you believe in the God of the dessert people? A. Yes. End of reasoning.
28 October 2010, 11:34 PM
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And you're asking people who reject Enlightenment thinking, submit to a bronze age sky fairy and employ wishthinking under the pain of death to observe this. I'm with you on it but dialogue is beginning to seem futile. Q. Do you believe in the God of the dessert people? A. Yes. End of reasoning.
Could you please, please, please explain in words that a simpleton like me can understand, what it is you mean by 'Enlightenment thinking'
29 October 2010, 12:43 AM
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29 October 2010, 01:09 AM
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29 October 2010, 01:47 AM
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Almost all of these countries were party to the Age of Enlightenment/Reason. Evolution, scientific method, secularism, emancipation, etc. all sprung from this period. If you ran the poll above in, say, the Middle East, evolution would barely register.
http://www.google.co.uk/m/search?oe=...+enlightenment
This is basic, immutable, historical fact: the West was shaped by the Enlightenment. Islam and the countries within which Islam is prevalant (to an overwhelming degree) was not. You keep bothering me with this, yet these terms are immediately familiar to anyone that has even a superficial knowledge of the discussion.
http://www.google.co.uk/m/search?oe=...+enlightenment
This is basic, immutable, historical fact: the West was shaped by the Enlightenment. Islam and the countries within which Islam is prevalant (to an overwhelming degree) was not. You keep bothering me with this, yet these terms are immediately familiar to anyone that has even a superficial knowledge of the discussion.
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29 October 2010, 03:08 AM
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@ Martin
http://www.themodernreligion.com/ht/faith-future.html
Here's a transcript I've just read from the front page of the google I did for you. It's a good example of a Muslim scholar's analysis of the Enlightenment and is helpful because it's not partisan and therefore you're less likely to think that I've posted it with bias or agenda.
http://www.themodernreligion.com/ht/faith-future.html
Here's a transcript I've just read from the front page of the google I did for you. It's a good example of a Muslim scholar's analysis of the Enlightenment and is helpful because it's not partisan and therefore you're less likely to think that I've posted it with bias or agenda.
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29 October 2010, 01:49 PM
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Why is it so difficult for YOU to tell ME what YOU mean by Enlightenment thinking...and remember keep it simple
29 October 2010, 04:12 PM
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As it happens, I've already schooled you on this here:
https://www.scoobynet.com/855681-isl...of-life-3.html
From post 68. You're like a little kiddy that asks a question, gets a fair answer and then asks the same question a few days later.
Anyway, Enlightenment thinking: advocating free enquiry where sound human reasoning is the primary source of authority and legitimacy.
This is in opposition to theonomous thinking where God is the authority and legitimacy is with God's word via scripture.
I subcribe to the former, Islam the latter.
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29 October 2010, 04:25 PM
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29 October 2010, 08:41 PM
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The message in this film comes as a package. What do you choose? Can you choose?
http://www.thevenusproject.com/