Read through the warranty

 

Found a youtube vid of exactly the same noise , most of the videos on utube are worse than mine but this comes pretty close -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFoOg...eature=related

 

Might be a daft question but is rod knock what people refer to when they say bottom end is gone ?

 

Hmmm i can see what you mean , Im kinda thinking at the moment that cheapest way of doing it well is to buy a bottom end with forged pistons from a guy on here for £900 then have my mechanic mate fit it.

 

all ican say is please try and listen to experienced subaru enthusiasts.

i have been in your position as well before thinking what the hell am i gonna do as i just dont have the money to sort this!!
other people on here have been through it as well!!
and i wish i listened to people at the time if i could turn the clock back hell paying an EXTRA £800 at the time would have still been better than option i went for which was much cheapness like you, well i had the same problem again within 2 months!!!!

DONT DO IT i dont know david from api but he has a good reputation on here certainly!!
if distance is a problem for you find out who is nearest to you WITH A GOOD REPUTATION FOR SUBARU MAINLY!!
ask on here people will help you.

thats all i can say to try and help you, if you dont listen and go for every penny saving i fear you will regret it like i did.

cheers grant

 

Lead a horse to water...

 

OK Im probably one of the "tightest" guys on the planet when it comes to maintenance/repair of any vehicle car bike boat you name it..

I do all the work myself no matter how horrible or how out of my depth I am mostly because I enjoy the challenge..

Having recently done a btm. end replacement due to big end failure by the roadside I can tell you its a total bitch of a job & its always a gamble using 2nd hand parts.. the btm end ( short ) I bought off ebay for around 300 GBP
( like I said the cheapest possible option is usually the one I take )
So far Ive been lucky but that is definately the operative word, If your not a mechanic or not into the pain of messing with things you dont understand DO NOT EVEN CONSIDER THE EBAY OPTION I honestly expect my roughassed rebuilt engine to dissintegrate at some point... or probably more likely fail a MOT due to emmisions.

If you rely on this vehicle for work or anything else even slightly important do not do the Ebay thing you will definately fee like a complete idiot when it goes bang... and a warantee on a second hand engine is basically worth nothing when you consider i will not cover the removal & reinstallation of the second dodgy engine you will undoubtedly be given as a "replacement" remember by this time the breaker is down an engine too & wont be inclined to give you a good deal..but will just want you off his doorstep..

Just my 2 cents worth, at the end of the day you pays your money & takes your choise...... go to David (or someone closer with a decent reputation if you really care about a couple of hundred quid ) that way the issue will be sorted once and not come back to haunt you......

If your gonna sell quickly then its a ****ty thing to do to someone, but at the end of the day any private sale is buyer beware......

SS

 

APi has been in the engine business for over 28 years. We see all sorts come and go. These haven't gone yet. In fact they rarely ' go ', they just start again called something else, quite often in the same premises.

David

 

You can tell it's the same mob generally as it's the same horses parked up outside

 

Ok , thanks again guys i dont mean to sound like im ignoring any advise im considering everything thats being said here ,

As it stands at the moment iv been offered a Bottom end with forged pistons for £950 delivered from a guy on here who seems genuine enough so hopefully wouldnt have any issues with the part , I can have it fitted by a trusted local mechanic for £300 then say £50 for a head gasket so "should" have it sorted by doing this at around £1300 and would have forged pistons

Other option is try and find someone closer similar to API or go the extra mile and get something sorted with them - Looking at around £1600 if no damage outside big end

Lastly as what i can see as the most risky option is replacment engine ( current best offer on table is full engine , tested from breakers £1300 with 3 month warrenty then £200 to fit from same local guy - Total cost £1500 - Possibly worse off if fails shortly after.

Im swaying toward the bottom end replacment then at least some good would have came out of all this and it is also one of the cheapest deals on the table.

 

Does this block come with sump/modine/oil pump etc etc.
Are you fitting a new cam belt/ guide wheels & tensioner.
Head gaskets will be £120.

You'll be surprised what else has to be factored in and bumps up the price.
Even with forged pistons, that block still has a lot of movement on its cost.

 

As far as i know i wouldnt get the sump/oil pump ect but was under the impression i could use the one of the broken one , Was going to fit existing cam belt ect too.

 

jaysus man, you're going to need a new oil pump, modine, sump and timing belt. all the crap from your old engine will be in through all of these. any swarf or contaminents will royally **** your new engine and you will be even more out of pocket.

SORN the car, save the money do it right FFS.

 

Even if i went to API for the economy repair i would be getting a new crank. new bearings on the crank, 1 con rod weight matched to the other 3, gaskets and seals, so would be re-using existing oil pump ect. I can tsee how the oil pump would be damaged by the crank knocking ?

 

Fine. Ask David at API what he would recommend should be replaced after a failed rod or spun bearing.

 

Contacted them and had this reply when i asked about state of engine and any warrenty -

"no this is a used engine which has been tested and the warrenty is you have 14 days in which to fit the engine
any problems then we would do an exchange or refund"

 

This guy is either a muppet or a spammer. He has been told by numerous people what to do, but still comes on and talks about buying unknown engines.

You also stated in another post that you were about to sell your car. 90% of people looking to buy a scoob will come on to sn to look for an enthuisiast owned car. Basicly you will strugle to sell your car if you do it cheap, on the other hand getting it done professionally will help sell your car above other cars.

Listen mate youve been told the best way to fix your car. If you dont want to do it this way, go away and do it your way, and we will read your next thread in a month or two.

 

Ok , Im seriosly considering API , API is too far for me to take the engine too , They can collect it for £235 , then replace crank. new bearings on the crank, 1 con rod weight matched to the other 3, gaskets and seals only , so no oil pump ect for £1,175.00 . Plus £150 for getting the engine out locally = £1560 Minimum providing there is no further damage in which case i would owe around £550 for the strip down with postage and my costs of removing engine ect. Im struggling to justify it to myself to be honest

 

Dulux, all the best with your car mate.

APIDavid, f mine does turn out to be engine failure/ head gasket I will deffinantly be on the phone to you to get it rebuild

A very usefull thread this as i've been wondering how best to go forward with a repair/new engine for mine.

Thanks Frog.

 

then sell up mate. <£2k for an engine rebuild is bloody good going. this is not a ford escort we are taking about here. If i have said it once i have said it a 1000 times. the buying of the car is not the problem. the bitch is the upkeep. these cars will seriously lighten your wallet and a lot of young lads buy £2000 94 - 95 year cars, rag the ***** of them then wonder why the engine fails. they then baulk at the £2k price tag to get a new warrantied engine from places like API or Engine Tuner.

Go to RCM and price an engine, you will then see how cheap £2k is in reality.

 

Still weighing the option up in my head , Comparing API economy route to local garage and second hand bottom end. I think regardless of who i use it would still have the existing oil pump, modine, sump and timing belt so would seem to me that if API were happy to do this it cant be that much of a risk/issue and that i would come out better off using the second hand upgraded bottom end...... Opinions

 

Would this go in ? - https://www.scoobynet.com/private-fo...53k-miles.html

 

I could be wrong here, but if API use an old modine after a bottom end failure i would be very surprised. why risk another engine failure over a few hundred quid. just my opinion but one i think you will find is shared by the vast majority of subaru owners who have had engine rebuilds.

 

As said is this is fix to sell or fix to keep. Reusing a Cambelt, Oil Pump etc is a false economy. You could try Subaru 4 you on 01635 35355 and see what they can do price wise, they know there stuff and might be worth a price for comparison. Aside from that try a cheap rebuild and its 50/50 if it works or fails, the engine is not usual so its best using someone who experience of these, the same risk applies with a second hand engine but the swop price is normally lower.

Good luck.

 

Thanks,

Its to fix and sell but its possibly being sold within my family

 

Oh , also its very recently had a cambelt change and has an uprated oil pump fitted if that makes a difference

 

Oh, well that makes it alright then to make a half arsed attempt at fixing a performance car

Honestly from reading this thread and your scrimpness in repairing your car properly I really feel sorry for any unaware prospective buyers. Hopefully this thread will warn people

Why not just sell the car as it is now for £2k less that you would with a bodge job engine

And stop asking for advice on here if you have absolutely no inclination of even listening to what experts such as API have to say

I'd wish you good luck but I believe you make your own.

 

Never said or implied that , I actually asked if it made a difference or not.

Point of thread is for me to understand ALL optons , If API were down the road id have took it straight there.

Warn people of what exactly , Whatever happens it will be getting done properly.

I dont belive anyone would be interested in it as it is at the moment , its hard enough selling this kind of car.

Iv took in everything that is being said to me , And then get flamed for asking questions....

 

What if fixing your car as cheaply as possible won't affect it in the future? Er....



But by your replies you have shown you don't understand the reasoning behind fixing yourcar properly and not just throwing in second hand parts like your cambelt FFS It ain't rocket science.



The fact you are scrimping on fixing your car properly. Many people have simply said to save up and do it properly rather than buy a dodgy second hand engine or re-use parts which need to be replaced (again cambelt). It's almost as if you are trying to convince yourself that buying a second hand engine from eBay is the RIGHT thing to do...




I bet a damn site more people would be interested to buy it and have their own engine specced/built up than buy an engine which has been fixed as cheaply as possible. Do you not get the idea that Impreza's can't just be bodged and expected to run & run afterwards?


No you get flamed because it comes across as though you are trying to find the cheapest way to fix your car (regardless of what the knock on effect would be (i.e. a knackered engine for the next owner in a couple of months - oh wait, that wouldn't be your problem then, would it ).


You have asked some questions on an internet forum for Subaru enthusiasts. You have been given advice many times on this thread as to how to go about fixing your car and the consequences of not fixing your car properly. Yet you keep coming back and basically asking the same questions about fitting second hand parts with no checkable history from unknown sources. People have given past experiences with regards to the subject BUT you still seem to favour this, for the sole reason that it is cheaper (and not better for the Scoob in the long run).

This is why you are getting frosty replies, regardless of what you mean to imply.

Big sinky got it bang on when he said you aren't fixing a banger.

I'm not going to waste my breath any longer as it seems a waste of time and lost on your goodself

 

Im well and truely sorry about the problem you are facing sincerly!!!

How much would you sell your car for?