Trout

iTrader: (1)

See the extract from TVL above - definitively you do need a TV Licence if you watch content live on the iPlayer. It is dubious whether you need one for on-demand.

I am also not sure whether a letter from the BBC counts. You need a letter from the TV Licensing Authority which is not the BBC - they have jurisdiction on this matter.

cster

This whole subject looks like a legal can of worms.
Surely it is not the TVLA who would have the final say in this matter, but some Judge in the High Court, re TVLA vs Joe Bloggs or whatever.
Why if I didn't know any better, I would guess our legislators are just a bunch of scamming lawyers on the make.

Trout

iTrader: (1)

My analogy is that Lloyds Bank may have a view on financial regulation; but it is the FSA who will give absolute guidance.

As with all these matters, you are right that if it came to it the High Court would be the final arbitration.

madscoob

iTrader: (3)

have a tv engineer remove the reciever part of you telly , rendering them incapable of recieving a signal, make sure you get a invoice to prove the work has been done, they then become a monitor for your dvd player or video player they cannot do you for watchind payed for dvds etc

1978transam

i dont pay the tv license thankfull, my landlord does........... but if he stops paying for it, I can get FIRED! stealing from the company...... i work on set for some of the programmes....dr who, torchwood etc


still dont watch them tho. more a dvd guy.

Dedrater

If it is live, as it is being broadcast , then yes you do (Although is is completely unenforceable). On demand, you 100% do not need one.

The TVLA is the BBC btw, it is funded by them and they have no jurisdiction on anything.

Dedrater

At the end of the day, it will not matter to the TVLA what you do, you will still receive threat o grams every month, trust me

Dedrater

Here you go, from the BBC itself, I can scan the letter mimicking what it says it the link, if anyone needs it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcintern...re_a_tv_1.html

Scooby.Newbie

Try DD, it costs the same but it only hurts when you check your bank statement a month later, ergo a months extra happyness

tony de wonderful

I don't think you need to do that. Having a TV is not evidence enough for a prosecution - as I understand it - the TV license people need evidence you are watching broadcast TV.

Gear Head

iTrader: (2)

Isn't it something like £12 a month? So 40p a day?
Do you have sky?

Someone needs to get out more!

stef_2010

iTrader: (3)

Its even cheaper if you dont pay it...........................

StickyMicky

Or put up with 6 months of free bog paper, before renewing it for a further year


It took them around 10 months to even send somebody out when i tested the system after moving into my new pad

Dedrater

The only evidence they can get, is the TVLA actually catching you watching live TV, they are the biggest scumbag company operating in the UK.

One of the biggest lies they had the public believe, was their TV detection vans, they even had 24 of them driving around the country and in the back of them was......**** all, poor lads driving them, most of been soul destroying.

tony de wonderful

It's all commission with them.

Had one threaten me when I was a student. He was a weird insidious bloke.

Jamz3k

I aint paid mine in over a year as the money they were taking out of my bank account didn't add up to the price of a TV License so now they get nothing.

Dedrater

Not forgetting violent (check the Guardian and Youtube) and none of them are CRB checked, the BBC say that someone needs to come and check your house, that person could be a rapist, murderer, pedo.

Anyone reading this, never let them in your household, phone the Police.

22BUK

From: http://www.bbctvlicence.com/Tips%20f...harassment.htm

Fortunately, there is a way to stop TVL/BBC approaches. Although houses and flats are private property, there exists an "implied right of access" to enable postal deliveries, newspaper rounds, and other people who wish to visit. This means that the pathway, doorbell and letter box may be used by visitors without the express permission of the owner. Invitiation to use them is implied. As a result of this, TVL/BBC can come up your path and ring your door bell. To prevent TVL/BBC approaching your property, write to them, stating that you have withdrawn their implied right of access. There is no need to indicate whether you have a television, and you do not need to give your name. You can withdraw access in the name of "legal occupier".
That will (should) keep their employees away, but it will not stop the delivery of TVL/BBC letters, since it is the postman who uses your letter box. So, inform TVL/BBC that you consider their written contact as harassment. This combined approach - withdrawing the right of implied access and informing them that their contact is harassment - should prevent further contact. At least for a while.

tony de wonderful

Can they get a warrant?

JTaylor

Yes. They can apply for a warrant through the courts.

tony de wonderful

Sure but on what grounds? That you ignore them?

You may not even have a TV.

Can a judge grant a warrant to effectively check your property with no just-cause?

22BUK

Search warrants are rare for several good reasons:
- they cost TVL/BBC money to apply for
- they need evidence to present to a magistrate... simply seeing a TV is not good enough as you could have easily just been watching a DVD/playing a console game
- if a search warrant went wrong, i.e. there was nothing tuned in to receive live broadcasts then the publicity alone would be very damaging to the BBC/TVL... especially if you filmed the whole event.

You don't even have to shut your blinds... just angle them so that light comes in and those TVL idiots can't see in. Other than that, ignore the letters and slam the door in the TVL goons face when they visit. NEVER answer any of their questions.