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01 December 2010, 11:38 PM
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You are making a pedantic point. Anti-semitism is used historically and by convention to mean anti-jewish.
Besides you go one about 'rabid' zionists, **** zionists, zionists murderers etc etc, hard not think you have not succumbed to hate and prejudice, more importantly a will to de-humanise.
Besides you go one about 'rabid' zionists, **** zionists, zionists murderers etc etc, hard not think you have not succumbed to hate and prejudice, more importantly a will to de-humanise.
01 December 2010, 11:41 PM
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My little girl loves "Soobadoos" so the more the merrier! Let me know when.
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01 December 2010, 11:42 PM
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Wind your neck in, you plank! (See that, << back there, that was me being nice, doesn't happen very often, so don't get used to it.)
The quoted bit, in bold and a nice shade of magenta; he was, but, he moved.
Plus he was sick of being referred to as a nation and not an individual. 
How about you get off you Islam/xenophobic soap box for five minutes, and give your head a shake. Might do you some good.
02 December 2010, 12:14 AM
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Before I post this easy question I want to say for the record I don't care in anyway what race/religion(if any) you are...
Why is it you throw about the 'anti-jew' card at any opportunity, making out anyone who has a word to say about them (or not in support of what you say) is anti sematic, yet at the same time you feel it is no problem to come on here day after day 'attacking' Muslims as a whole really (as you would, certainly JT, suggest the religion as a whole is a problem, not just an extremist portion) via any story you seem to come across? You can harldy get offended by another persons view of one religion when you constantly attack another...
Oh and to add, I'm not expert in conflicts in the relevant regions, so a simple, straight answer would be greatly appreciated.
Why is it you throw about the 'anti-jew' card at any opportunity, making out anyone who has a word to say about them (or not in support of what you say) is anti sematic, yet at the same time you feel it is no problem to come on here day after day 'attacking' Muslims as a whole really (as you would, certainly JT, suggest the religion as a whole is a problem, not just an extremist portion) via any story you seem to come across? You can harldy get offended by another persons view of one religion when you constantly attack another...
Oh and to add, I'm not expert in conflicts in the relevant regions, so a simple, straight answer would be greatly appreciated.
02 December 2010, 02:29 AM
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Trying to wriggle your way out of answering any point put to you Tony? Go for it, but I think I am the last person to catch on to this, as I have been away. Everyone else seems to already know...
Anyway. I never hid being a Muslim, anyone who has been on SN more than the two minutes you have will know this anyway.
I offered a 'closer' perspective for you as you were asking so many questions, yet failing to answer any yourself. A closer perspective meant that you might get one of the apparently elusive answers you were after. Now you seek to use that against me, all the while trying to hide the fact that you are Netanyahu's love child, or more likely a spotty student doing a study on 'How annoying can being a secret online Zionist agitator be?'
So what are you and are you going to answer any questions and/or try to reduce your ignorance?
Anyway. I never hid being a Muslim, anyone who has been on SN more than the two minutes you have will know this anyway.
I offered a 'closer' perspective for you as you were asking so many questions, yet failing to answer any yourself. A closer perspective meant that you might get one of the apparently elusive answers you were after. Now you seek to use that against me, all the while trying to hide the fact that you are Netanyahu's love child, or more likely a spotty student doing a study on 'How annoying can being a secret online Zionist agitator be?'
So what are you and are you going to answer any questions and/or try to reduce your ignorance?
You claim to be closer to the conflict that me, but it looks to me like we are both distant. Being Muslim does not make you closer in anyway...only in your mind...it's a conceit. Palestinians are not even all Muslims...and even if they were why would that make you closer? People are just people.
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02 December 2010, 03:10 AM
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Before I post this easy question I want to say for the record I don't care in anyway what race/religion(if any) you are...
Why is it you throw about the 'anti-jew' card at any opportunity, making out anyone who has a word to say about them (or not in support of what you say) is anti sematic, yet at the same time you feel it is no problem to come on here day after day 'attacking' Muslims as a whole really (as you would, certainly JT, suggest the religion as a whole is a problem, not just an extremist portion) via any story you seem to come across? You can harldy get offended by another persons view of one religion when you constantly attack another...
Oh and to add, I'm not expert in conflicts in the relevant regions, so a simple, straight answer would be greatly appreciated.
Why is it you throw about the 'anti-jew' card at any opportunity, making out anyone who has a word to say about them (or not in support of what you say) is anti sematic, yet at the same time you feel it is no problem to come on here day after day 'attacking' Muslims as a whole really (as you would, certainly JT, suggest the religion as a whole is a problem, not just an extremist portion) via any story you seem to come across? You can harldy get offended by another persons view of one religion when you constantly attack another...
Oh and to add, I'm not expert in conflicts in the relevant regions, so a simple, straight answer would be greatly appreciated.
OTOH I call you to find ONE post by me which is the equivalent prejudice against Muslims?
I don't play that card lightly but you should really read what has been posted on the Panorama thread, some of it was disgusting anti-semitism, veiled or not.
I'll listen to intelligent and considered arguments against Israel but we have posts here, **** zionists this, Netanyahu's love child that, rabid zionist that. That is not debate just crude rhetoric, cliches, inflammatory abusive language. Ask yourself who really is the anti-intellectual, you seem to think I am the bad guy? It seems in your absurd opinion that posting true stories about blasphemy laws in Pakistan is wrong and an 'attack' but calling me a 'rabid zionist', **** zionist etc, and saying that being Jewish explains 'a lot' about me is balanced intellectualism?
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02 December 2010, 03:20 AM
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Just for the record, again, I do indeed find any movement that has at its core the literal belief in a sky fairy, to be problematic, but only in so much that it is counter to reason. This is different from the threat, which is from Islamism. There are vast swathes of Muslims in this country who, whilst they may not actively oppose Islamists, do not participate either. If they choose to pray 5 times a day to a sky fairy, then that's their lookout.
02 December 2010, 05:28 PM
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Just for the record, again, I do indeed find any movement that has at its core the literal belief in a sky fairy, to be problematic, but only in so much that it is counter to reason. This is different from the threat, which is from Islamism. There are vast swathes of Muslims in this country who, whilst they may not actively oppose Islamists, do not participate either. If they choose to pray 5 times a day to a sky fairy, then that's their lookout.
02 December 2010, 06:00 PM
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I'm assuming the character will respond with some non-argument in retaliation; if he does, please don't quote it.
02 December 2010, 06:04 PM
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https://www.scoobynet.com/showpost.p...8&postcount=31
I'm assuming the character will respond with some non-argument in retaliation; if he does, please don't quote it.
I'm assuming the character will respond with some non-argument in retaliation; if he does, please don't quote it.
02 December 2010, 11:50 PM
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Wriggle out of what? You wanting to know my ethnic-religious identity? It's nothing to do with you and 100% irrelevant to my arguments. What are you a racist? Why else would you want to know?
You claim to be closer to the conflict that me, but it looks to me like we are both distant. Being Muslim does not make you closer in anyway...only in your mind...it's a conceit. Palestinians are not even all Muslims...and even if they were why would that make you closer? People are just people.
You claim to be closer to the conflict that me, but it looks to me like we are both distant. Being Muslim does not make you closer in anyway...only in your mind...it's a conceit. Palestinians are not even all Muslims...and even if they were why would that make you closer? People are just people.
This is going to be my last attempt to reason with you. If this fails (which it will) I will look forward to responding to your posts in exactly the same way as you respond to mine and others'.
1) You have failed to respond to any points made to you.
2) You have pointed out how my background disqualifies me from answering questions, how it makes me prejudiced, how my answers are irrelevant, etc etc, but refuse to reveal your own background, "as being no one elses business"
3) When asked further as to this obviously embarrasing point for you, you have resorted to stupid insults. Insults which are so stupid as to be beneath contempt.
4) You have failed to acknowledge the evidence I have pointed out to you, indicating how you prefer to remain ignorant.
5) You have dismissed evidence from people clearly a hundred times more qualified than you, but refuse to disclose why you feel you are better qualified.
6) You start misleading, innacurate, and offensive threads, that you know will incite an often, mouth frothing response from some quarters. (How other people actually respond is not your fault, you just know they will do it)
7) Your threads seem exclusively about painting Islam and Muslims in a negative light, you are a one trick pony.
8) You go on about 'intellectualising', but in a comment to someone else, in your first post about me, you said I was 'dumb'.
9) Having been brought down a peg or two since calling me 'dumb' you have just turned ****, oops I mean nasty! Sorry!
10) Your arguements have become desperate, emotional, and demented.
11) No one appears to like you.
Kindly F**k off!
I suggest that unless you improve your 'community spirit' that your posts be deleted and then if you really don't play nice, you should be banned.
This thread should be closed now please? Thanks.
Asif
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03 December 2010, 03:43 AM
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...and yes my background is none of your business.
You are attacking me again and not actual arguments.
03 December 2010, 04:06 AM
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By the way how come you post maily in the middle of the night? I might start to hazard a guess as to what your job is ... should give us all some fun at least
03 December 2010, 08:34 AM
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03 December 2010, 09:29 AM
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Tony
This is going to be my last attempt to reason with you.
3) Insults which are so stupid as to be beneath contempt.
10) Your arguements have become desperate, emotional, and demented.
11) No one appears to like you.
Kindly F**k off!
I suggest that unless you improve your 'community spirit' that your posts be deleted and then if you really don't play nice, you should be banned.
This thread should be closed now please? Thanks.
Asif
This is going to be my last attempt to reason with you.
3) Insults which are so stupid as to be beneath contempt.
10) Your arguements have become desperate, emotional, and demented.
11) No one appears to like you.
Kindly F**k off!
I suggest that unless you improve your 'community spirit' that your posts be deleted and then if you really don't play nice, you should be banned.
This thread should be closed now please? Thanks.
Asif
03 December 2010, 09:37 AM
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03 December 2010, 03:37 PM
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I have been a lurker on this forum since 1999, previously with a different name and now with this one. I have rarely posted but have actively lurked nearly every day. I used to enjoy CWE until that was removed.
In my opinion I would very much like to see tony de wonderful stay in this forum as his posts make my lunchtimes more interesting.
There have been a handful of posters like TDW over the years, and most people when arguing with this type of person start by trying to debate and then eventually either resort to comedy, name calling, threats or despair, and all come and go.
Keep it up please
In my opinion I would very much like to see tony de wonderful stay in this forum as his posts make my lunchtimes more interesting.
There have been a handful of posters like TDW over the years, and most people when arguing with this type of person start by trying to debate and then eventually either resort to comedy, name calling, threats or despair, and all come and go.
Keep it up please
03 December 2010, 11:23 PM
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That first point is a lie, I never said anything like that. YOU were the one who voluntered that your own background made you closer to the conflict that me and I was calling you out on that. You can hardly blame me for enquiring if your actual background made you 'closer' (whatever that actually means) when you originally brought it up!
But it appears central, in your mind, as to why people are either for you or against you. I have to conclude that you are a Zionist, to follow your own tack.
Zionists are the Jewish equivalent of the Taliban as far as I am concerned, but more of a threat to World peace.
You clearly just don't want to see any evidence that would back up those who argue against you. This clearly allows you to remain in the ignorant state you find to be bliss.
All the way through this I have quoted reputable sources, but somehow you feel that the word of Tony has more creedence, but you haven't explained why. Sorry if I don't take your word for it.
I have answered this 'point' of yours many times now, let me know when it sinks in.
03 December 2010, 11:25 PM
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That first point is a lie, I never said anything like that. YOU were the one who voluntered that your own background made you closer to the conflict that me and I was calling you out on that. You can hardly blame me for enquiring if your actual background made you 'closer' (whatever that actually means) when you originally brought it up!
...and yes my background is none of your business.
You posted a reference to a video. That is not an argument or really a way to debate. If you are going to tell people to watch videos in lieu of actual arguemnsts or points then there is probably no point in posting here.
You just don't get the notion of an appeal to authority fallacy do you? Come back when you have a grounding in logical fallacies.
You are attacking me again and not actual arguments.
...and yes my background is none of your business.
You posted a reference to a video. That is not an argument or really a way to debate. If you are going to tell people to watch videos in lieu of actual arguemnsts or points then there is probably no point in posting here.
You just don't get the notion of an appeal to authority fallacy do you? Come back when you have a grounding in logical fallacies.
You are attacking me again and not actual arguments.
This comes absolutely nowhere near to answering my post. This is drivel. Did the old 'intellect' you are so proud of, run out of steam? Stick another 50p in the meter.
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03 December 2010, 11:31 PM
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James, you may like Tony, but that is your problem to be honest.
I am sure you and he enjoy 'debating' together. Quite easy if you both agree with each other on whatever it is you are talking about.
Tell me, if you and he disagreed, would you find his style of avoiding questions and points, being so arrogant and dismissive (without anything about him to justify it) making random comments as 'comebacks', contradicting himself, calling you any name under the Sun if you dare to disagree with him, etc etc. acceptable?
You are very fond of the truth and open debate as you see it, but I haven't seen you post anything to 'correct' your friend. Why is that please?
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I am sure you and he enjoy 'debating' together. Quite easy if you both agree with each other on whatever it is you are talking about.
Tell me, if you and he disagreed, would you find his style of avoiding questions and points, being so arrogant and dismissive (without anything about him to justify it) making random comments as 'comebacks', contradicting himself, calling you any name under the Sun if you dare to disagree with him, etc etc. acceptable?
You are very fond of the truth and open debate as you see it, but I haven't seen you post anything to 'correct' your friend. Why is that please?
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03 December 2010, 11:33 PM
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