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Old 02 December 2010 | 05:19 PM
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Check out Steve at SW Motorsport.
He does engine work.

I have seen his top end tuning work.
His work is perfection like "art"
He creates some big bhp Scoobies.

Reccommended to me by A. Forrest

Based just outside Edinburgh near Penicuik.

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For a friend, can someone give me some more info on the cvn (calibration vertification number) please.

Would the cvn change when a Subaru dealer has loaded the updated standard software map for the 2008 STI? (The update that was a recall, but not a recall if you know what I mean!)
If so, how does it work? Would/Should/Do they always inform Subaru UK (IM) or Subaru Japan of the change for the cross reference with the vin?

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you can always goto to craig mcd in paisley, as he is building a 2.5 forged enginer for a chap on scottishscoobies.co.uk

he does my servicing on both myscoobies
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Originally Posted by carl555
For a friend, can someone give me some more info on the cvn (calibration vertification number) please.

Would the cvn change when a Subaru dealer has loaded the updated standard software map for the 2008 STI? (The update that was a recall, but not a recall if you know what I mean!)
If so, how does it work? Would/Should/Do they always inform Subaru UK (IM) or Subaru Japan of the change for the cross reference with the vin?
no need to inform anyone as subaru japan know what it changes to
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Originally Posted by scoobyboy
no need to inform anyone as subaru japan know what it changes to
Can you clarify how the process works please.

Is the CVN a common code to the updated map then? (Same code for every car).
Or does each and every car have a different code? In which case how do Subaru Japan know the code without the dealer informing them?


Just concerned that the car in question may have a different code down to the updated map against the original map code.

Thanks.
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if it's got a genuine update then don't worry subaru japan will know what the code should be if they need to verify it for a claim
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Originally Posted by scoobyboy
if it's got a genuine update then don't worry subaru japan will know what the code should be if they need to verify it for a claim
Ok - Thanks.
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Originally Posted by carl555
Can you clarify how the process works please.

Is the CVN a common code to the updated map then? (Same code for every car).
Or does each and every car have a different code? In which case how do Subaru Japan know the code without the dealer informing them?


Just concerned that the car in question may have a different code down to the updated map against the original map code.

Thanks.
when the reflash update is carried out it is logged onto the subaru computer system and they allready know what the coding is for the CVN.
Old 02 December 2010 | 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 14N-FR
As some of you may know, I engine let go a week or so ago.

The car is still under warranty but requires an engine block replacement which Subaru obviously dont want to pay for unless they have too.

The garage I am dealing with have been great and have pushed everything forward and even helped me out when an engineer from Subaru UK came out to examine the car.

My question to any Subaru tech folk is, do garages take info from ECU's and send it to Subaru UK to be checked out? And can they tell if the car has been remapped?
i thought the custom remap was a cure for the detonation/ringland issues. obviously, this isnt the cure. Forged piston upgrade seems the only answer for us hatch owners.
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depends how the car was remapped to be honest, If it was mapped for it maximum potential power output it will only take a bad batch of fuel to ruin the engine. if however it was a conservative map which still had a certain amount of a safe zone on the map to allow for poor fuel quality then these have been fine.

Mine was mapped for maximum potential power at the time and did 30,200 miles before a ringland fractured due to my local shell station not filling there tanks with the right stuff. it's now fully forged at my own exspence and goes like a dream at 400bhp
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Well looks like I am taking the car elsewhere to carry out the work.

Aggs, Andy F also recommended SW Motorsport but my problem now is that my car is lying with its engine out and in bits, to the extent where the block was separated so the oil channels and pick up's could be checked.

I need to find somewhere local to Ayr that would be able to pick up the car and engine and take it to their shop.
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I know its been said before on here, but I will just say it again.

Watch what is said on here as Auto Protect/Subaru UK obviously have members of staff who sign on here and check what is said. They have obviously seem my threads and posts concerning my car.

I have just been caught out by them, so my used Subaru warranty is now void.

The Subaru dealership I was dealing with were not at fault at all and have been great and are a credit to the Subaru network!. So thank you to them.

I have now handed my car over to a Greersport who are fully forging the engine so that its ready for the M321T I am about to order.
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Originally Posted by 14N-FR
I know its been said before on here, but I will just say it again.

Watch what is said on here as Auto Protect/Subaru UK obviously have members of staff who sign on here and check what is said. They have obviously seem my threads and posts concerning my car.

I have just been caught out by them, so my used Subaru warranty is now void.

The Subaru dealership I was dealing with were not at fault at all and have been great and are a credit to the Subaru network!. So thank you to them.

I have now handed my car over to a Greersport who are fully forging the engine so that its ready for the M321T I am about to order.
Good advice bud. Shame you got caught out but at least you have taken it on the chin!
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Moral of the story is:
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      It's common knowledge that I.M monitor this site - and probably others aswell.
      They also used to get staff to post/leak information - that I can guarantee because I was told by one of their employees
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      I have now just found this out. Sneeky buggers, but it saves them money at the end of the day, and thats what business is all about.
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      Even if you hadnt posted on here, it appears they would have found out through the CVN anyway.

      Looks like you are going down the correct route with the forged option. A standard rebuild is just a waste of time.


      The dealer told me that Suabru UK/Japan have really tightened up on the warranty claims on these hatch STI’s because they were getting so many!
      As has been said, you cant blame them for getting out of the warranty if the car has been modified, but the annoying thing is, looking at the amount of standard engines that have let go, chances are they will go anyway, mapped or not.

      No objections to Subaru coming on here and having a read. They will then know how they are alienating even long term enthusiastic Subaru owners with these issues. Such a shame for the marque.

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      Originally Posted by 14N-FR
      Moral of the story is:
        But as I understand in this case, the car was bought already mapped when bought from a Subaru dealership?
        If they are that concerned over claims then any use car should be sold as standard with mods and remaps removed.
        Are they going to try and claim the remap was done post sale?
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        It certainly sounds to me that the new hatch is rubbish. I bought my hawk new in 2007 and certainly wont be buying a new one.

        Sorry to hear about your engine but I would certainly be taking alot further with Subaru something along the lines of I got it remapped to prevent it from going bang like all the standard ones have. Who mapped it?
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        Sorry to hear you warrenty has been void, Hopefully the route your now going you will have a bullet proof engine at the end of it
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        Surely If you bought the car from the dealer already mapped & you were sold a warrenty with it then it covers the car in the state at which it was purchased ? regardless of if it were mapped or not.

        Sale of Goods act as well states that goods should be fit for purpose & clearly the car wasn't

        Just my initial thoughts
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        Gutted to here this, but as said the route u are taking should give u an awsome car,

        I know u get warranty with a new car but I would never pay extra for it etc as with any warranty there will do anything there can to get out of it,
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        Give Steve a ring at SW Motorsport.
        It may seem a hassle moving the engine, but its worth it for a well respected engine builder,his standard is very high, his rates were very reasonable when he changed my turbo.

        S and S at Ayr seem a friendly dealer do they know anybody in the area?

        Subaru Uk not very helpful,my rear shocks failed 1 month over warrenty period,but I had to fork out for the new ones myself,esp after owning 5 Subarus I was very pissed off.

        Good luck.
        Do not rush into it get it done "right"
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        Originally Posted by 14N-FR
        I know its been said before on here, but I will just say it again.

        Watch what is said on here as Auto Protect/Subaru UK obviously have members of staff who sign on here and check what is said. They have obviously seem my threads and posts concerning my car.

        I have just been caught out by them, so my used Subaru warranty is now void.

        The Subaru dealership I was dealing with were not at fault at all and have been great and are a credit to the Subaru network!. So thank you to them.

        I have now handed my car over to a Greersport who are fully forging the engine so that its ready for the M321T I am about to order.

        Check this out ian.. Belt had only done just over 3000 miles...

        http://bbs.22b.com/cgi-bin/ultimateb...c;f=8;t=001728
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        Originally Posted by aggs
        Give Steve a ring at SW Motorsport.
        It may seem a hassle moving the engine, but its worth it for a well respected engine builder,his standard is very high, his rates were very reasonable when he changed my turbo.

        S and S at Ayr seem a friendly dealer do they know anybody in the area?

        Subaru Uk not very helpful,my rear shocks failed 1 month over warrenty period,but I had to fork out for the new ones myself,esp after owning 5 Subarus I was very pissed off.

        Good luck.
        Do not rush into it get it done "right"
        Originally Posted by f4la k
        Check this out ian.. Belt had only done just over 3000 miles...

        http://bbs.22b.com/cgi-bin/ultimateb...c;f=8;t=001728
        I am getting everything done to the engine, new cambelt and tensioners, block rebored if it needs it, head skimmed and aftermarket gaskets.

        Its going to Greersport as I have dealt with them before and trust their work. That belt failure could happen to anyone.
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        Greersport Racing have done all my work, and they are fantastic bunch of guys. Very honest, and i am sick and tired of people on here that have nothing better to do than spread malicious rumours. Get a life f4la k
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        just to add to richards comment above,i am sick of people jumping up with a lot of rubbish the minute someone mentions our name on here.each to there own i say,if ure an awd man sw man hypertech and so on......then just go to youre guy and leave it at that,why start throwing handbags about.some people are just trying to provide an honest service and make a living,the people who come to us on a regular basis will know this.think i speak for most garages here.colin greer

        just to add,not that its relevant but he ho that 22b link above the particular vehicle mentioned was in our place 4 years ago on our records it had a lot more mileage than whats being mentioned,something not quite right there!!

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        Originally Posted by GREER SPORT RACING
        ,something not quite right there!!
        What, like the owner paid £500 for it is as a crash damaged car.
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        I assume people you are talking about the ecu calibration ID matching to the cars VIN number which is also coded into the ecu? Just been looking at my programming logs.

        cheers

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        There's two numbers Bob.

        CVN Calibration vertification Number
        CID Calibration Identification Number



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