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06 December 2010, 05:25 PM
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Unfortunatly money makes the world go round and closing beaches etc loses money for tourist areas etc, they see a few attacked humans as live tests to see if waters really are safe. Sick really
13 December 2010, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by BBC
Egypt says it will reopen beaches at the Red Sea resort of Sharm el-Sheikh after a spate of shark attacks temporarily forced their closure.
"We have allowed the beaches to reopen on condition hotel owners adhere to new controls to ensure the safety of foreign tourists while diving or swimming," South Sinai Governor Mohamed Abdel Fadil Shousha told reporters.
He said watch stations, manned by divers, would be set up to monitor the coast, and that speed boats would continuously patrol the waters.
Swimmers will also have to remain within designated areas and refrain from feeding sharks, Mr Shousha added.
"We have allowed the beaches to reopen on condition hotel owners adhere to new controls to ensure the safety of foreign tourists while diving or swimming," South Sinai Governor Mohamed Abdel Fadil Shousha told reporters.
He said watch stations, manned by divers, would be set up to monitor the coast, and that speed boats would continuously patrol the waters.
Swimmers will also have to remain within designated areas and refrain from feeding sharks, Mr Shousha added.
13 December 2010, 09:04 AM
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They're having a laugh if they think people will start swimming there in a hurry, goes to show that the tourism $ outweighs the safety of tourists every time....
13 December 2010, 09:44 AM
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How do you define a "protected swimming area". If its all netted off and patrolled etc, how did a man eating shark get into it to cause the issue? If these areas are truly protected then there should not be the need to go hunting all the large sharks in the area in the hope of killing the "right one".
13 December 2010, 09:46 AM
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this is terrible but people are right there are going to be sharks there so why go in the water you must be mad and deserve what they get for taking a very stupid risk and by the way the two sharks mentioned are not well known for killing humans so i would say theres a stray on the loose poss a tiger shark or great white more likely the tiger as it eats everything in its path
13 December 2010, 11:11 AM
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It's not a Tiger shark or a Great White, and they don't eat everything in their path and that includes dead sheep 
Yes a large shark is a highly evolved predator at the top of it's food chain (and vital to it) but they are generally pretty shy and only show a passing interest in you. The huge majority of attacks on humans are accidents which involve one bite or are the result of stupidity, like the fatality in the Red Sea last year.
I'd much rather swim through 'shark infested waters' than walk across a patch of land which some large felines have taken ownership of.
These attacks are obviously different though.
It's an Oceanic Whitetip. There's obviously something up with it as they don't usually come this far north or as close to shore, epecially at this time of year when the water is colder and the north is a degree or two lower in temp than the south.
To have any chance of seeing them you usually have to go to the deep south.
For accurate unbiased infomation look here;
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Dr. Elke Bojanowski is the expert on sharks in the Red Sea.
Yes a large shark is a highly evolved predator at the top of it's food chain (and vital to it) but they are generally pretty shy and only show a passing interest in you. The huge majority of attacks on humans are accidents which involve one bite or are the result of stupidity, like the fatality in the Red Sea last year.
I'd much rather swim through 'shark infested waters' than walk across a patch of land which some large felines have taken ownership of.
These attacks are obviously different though.
It's an Oceanic Whitetip. There's obviously something up with it as they don't usually come this far north or as close to shore, epecially at this time of year when the water is colder and the north is a degree or two lower in temp than the south.
To have any chance of seeing them you usually have to go to the deep south.
For accurate unbiased infomation look here;
http://us1.campaign-archive.com/?u=9...d=97b1eab42f&e
Dr. Elke Bojanowski is the expert on sharks in the Red Sea.
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13 December 2010, 11:18 AM
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For accurate unbiased infomation look here;
http://us1.campaign-archive.com/?u=9...d=97b1eab42f&e
Dr. Elke Bojanowski is the expert on sharks in the Red Sea.
http://us1.campaign-archive.com/?u=9...d=97b1eab42f&e
Dr. Elke Bojanowski is the expert on sharks in the Red Sea.
I've seen Jaws, a few times... and can confirm it's a Great White Shark
13 December 2010, 11:26 AM
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13 December 2010, 12:15 PM
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Yes but I have not heard too many stories about humans biting someone's leg and arm off so far!
Its an awful story, I feel so sorry for that poor woman, must have been an agonising death.
Certainly unwise to enter the sharks' territory but surely it was down to the local authorities to warn people of the risk instead of keeping quiet in case it affected their tourism. Very irresponsible and now of course they will lose even more visitors.
Les
Its an awful story, I feel so sorry for that poor woman, must have been an agonising death.
Certainly unwise to enter the sharks' territory but surely it was down to the local authorities to warn people of the risk instead of keeping quiet in case it affected their tourism. Very irresponsible and now of course they will lose even more visitors.
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14 December 2010, 10:39 PM
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I've just returned (yesterday) from Sharm and it does indeed look like an Oceanic Whitetip. A mate and myself went diving there, but they closed Sharm - well Narma Bay. The shark was spotted at Ras Mohammed by a dive boat just after my mate was there, he was gutted (sic) to miss it. He was desperate to get in the water with it and take some photos!
15 December 2010, 08:32 AM
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Thanks for the concern
I was diving up in Dahab about 40 miles from Sharm.
I got a load of texts while away and it did cause a little concern, due to travelling about I didn't do that much diving but I have to be honest I was extra vigilant
Having said that, I have never seen so many divers in one place. I swear the sea had more divers than fish so the odds of being attacked must be pretty low.
On the whole I think you have more chance of dying due to another diver, a few times people drifted into me that were out of control. For me the whole place is completely over dived and I have enjoyed it much more in other places.
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I was diving up in Dahab about 40 miles from Sharm.
I got a load of texts while away and it did cause a little concern, due to travelling about I didn't do that much diving but I have to be honest I was extra vigilant
Having said that, I have never seen so many divers in one place. I swear the sea had more divers than fish so the odds of being attacked must be pretty low.
On the whole I think you have more chance of dying due to another diver, a few times people drifted into me that were out of control. For me the whole place is completely over dived and I have enjoyed it much more in other places.
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15 December 2010, 09:24 AM
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I got a load of texts while away and it did cause a little concern, due to travelling about I didn't do that much diving but I have to be honest I was extra vigilant
Having said that, I have never seen so many divers in one place. I swear the sea had more divers than fish so the odds of being attacked must be pretty low.
On the whole I think you have more chance of dying due to another diver, a few times people drifted into me that were out of control. For me the whole place is completely over dived and I have enjoyed it much more in other places.
Chop
Having said that, I have never seen so many divers in one place. I swear the sea had more divers than fish so the odds of being attacked must be pretty low.
On the whole I think you have more chance of dying due to another diver, a few times people drifted into me that were out of control. For me the whole place is completely over dived and I have enjoyed it much more in other places.
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15 December 2010, 01:21 PM
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this is terrible but people are right there are going to be sharks there so why go in the water you must be mad and deserve what they get for taking a very stupid risk and by the way the two sharks mentioned are not well known for killing humans so i would say theres a stray on the loose poss a tiger shark or great white more likely the tiger as it eats everything in its path
16 December 2010, 12:10 PM
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Its a bit harsh, are you mad to drive walk on/near the road coz there are nearly 3000 deaths EVERY year in the UK,compared to less than 6 reported shark deaths per year throughout the WORLD.and its not a stray, there are plenty man eating sharks throughout the Mediterranean and Red sea area.
At least if you take the trouble to look first, there is a good chance that you will be able to avoid the cars etc. on the road.
If you are swimming it is a lot more difficult to see the shark coming for you, might be better really I suppose, I remember an old flight safety poster that use to say "Don't bother to look out, why die all tensed up!"
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19 December 2010, 05:55 PM
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Hello Mr Dash it.
At least if you take the trouble to look first, there is a good chance that you will be able to avoid the cars etc. on the road.
If you are swimming it is a lot more difficult to see the shark coming for you, might be better really I suppose, I remember an old flight safety poster that use to say "Don't bother to look out, why die all tensed up!"
Les
At least if you take the trouble to look first, there is a good chance that you will be able to avoid the cars etc. on the road.
If you are swimming it is a lot more difficult to see the shark coming for you, might be better really I suppose, I remember an old flight safety poster that use to say "Don't bother to look out, why die all tensed up!"
Les
For the record, going into the water as a complete novice was a bit unnerving. Did my first open water day up in dahab which had no restrictions, but the restrictions were relaxed for my second day, so we dived in naama bay. one bay over from where the attacks took place
,I'd be lying if i said i didnt keep a regular watch on my six! However despite a lot of very interesting marine life, my dives were shark free. Mainly due to me sticking to the reefs which, naturally arnt populated by many oceanic sharks. I also made a point of going deep early doors and staying off the surface wherever possible!
However there is a reason for this. You wont have read it in any papers, but the diving fraterity out there told me that 26 sharks have been caught and killed before the beaches were opened.
This is the saddest part for me, basically the sharks of the northern part of the red sea have been exterminated to keep the laughably labeled 'protected swimming areas' open. Mostly due to it being a line of bouys with no netting underneath!
The whole situation is definitely up there as one of the weirder weeks of my life. Still, came out the other side with all my limbs, so cant complain
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19 December 2010, 06:50 PM
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It's not a Tiger shark or a Great White, and they don't eat everything in their path and that includes dead sheep
Yes a large shark is a highly evolved predator at the top of it's food chain (and vital to it) but they are generally pretty shy and only show a passing interest in you. The huge majority of attacks on humans are accidents which involve one bite or are the result of stupidity, like the fatality in the Red Sea last year.
I'd much rather swim through 'shark infested waters' than walk across a patch of land which some large felines have taken ownership of.
These attacks are obviously different though.
It's an Oceanic Whitetip. There's obviously something up with it as they don't usually come this far north or as close to shore, epecially at this time of year when the water is colder and the north is a degree or two lower in temp than the south.
To have any chance of seeing them you usually have to go to the deep south.
For accurate unbiased infomation look here;
http://us1.campaign-archive.com/?u=9...d=97b1eab42f&e
Dr. Elke Bojanowski is the expert on sharks in the Red Sea.
Yes a large shark is a highly evolved predator at the top of it's food chain (and vital to it) but they are generally pretty shy and only show a passing interest in you. The huge majority of attacks on humans are accidents which involve one bite or are the result of stupidity, like the fatality in the Red Sea last year.
I'd much rather swim through 'shark infested waters' than walk across a patch of land which some large felines have taken ownership of.
These attacks are obviously different though.
It's an Oceanic Whitetip. There's obviously something up with it as they don't usually come this far north or as close to shore, epecially at this time of year when the water is colder and the north is a degree or two lower in temp than the south.
To have any chance of seeing them you usually have to go to the deep south.
For accurate unbiased infomation look here;
http://us1.campaign-archive.com/?u=9...d=97b1eab42f&e
Dr. Elke Bojanowski is the expert on sharks in the Red Sea.
If you dive and want to see and learn about sharks, get yourself on a Blue O Two trip, and have the holiday of a lifetime.
Details here:-
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19 December 2010, 07:11 PM
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At the end of the day the sea is the sharks own patch, you know before you go in the water in places like South Africa that their are man eating sharks swimming about that come close to the shore.
Its like if you go on a safari to see crocodiles, if you then get eaten by one after entering their territory then it can only go down as part of the risk you took, you can`t blame the crocodiles or sharks as they are doing what comes naturally.
Its like if you go on a safari to see crocodiles, if you then get eaten by one after entering their territory then it can only go down as part of the risk you took, you can`t blame the crocodiles or sharks as they are doing what comes naturally.
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I've just come back as well, having got my open water diver qualification
For the record, going into the water as a complete novice was a bit unnerving. Did my first open water day up in dahab which had no restrictions, but the restrictions were relaxed for my second day, so we dived in naama bay. one bay over from where the attacks took place,
I'd be lying if i said i didnt keep a regular watch on my six! However despite a lot of very interesting marine life, my dives were shark free. Mainly due to me sticking to the reefs which, naturally arnt populated by many oceanic sharks. I also made a point of going deep early doors and staying off the surface wherever possible!
However there is a reason for this. You wont have read it in any papers, but the diving fraterity out there told me that 26 sharks have been caught and killed before the beaches were opened.
This is the saddest part for me, basically the sharks of the northern part of the red sea have been exterminated to keep the laughably labeled 'protected swimming areas' open. Mostly due to it being a line of bouys with no netting underneath!
The whole situation is definitely up there as one of the weirder weeks of my life. Still, came out the other side with all my limbs, so cant complain
Astraboy.
For the record, going into the water as a complete novice was a bit unnerving. Did my first open water day up in dahab which had no restrictions, but the restrictions were relaxed for my second day, so we dived in naama bay. one bay over from where the attacks took place
,I'd be lying if i said i didnt keep a regular watch on my six! However despite a lot of very interesting marine life, my dives were shark free. Mainly due to me sticking to the reefs which, naturally arnt populated by many oceanic sharks. I also made a point of going deep early doors and staying off the surface wherever possible!
However there is a reason for this. You wont have read it in any papers, but the diving fraterity out there told me that 26 sharks have been caught and killed before the beaches were opened.
This is the saddest part for me, basically the sharks of the northern part of the red sea have been exterminated to keep the laughably labeled 'protected swimming areas' open. Mostly due to it being a line of bouys with no netting underneath!
The whole situation is definitely up there as one of the weirder weeks of my life. Still, came out the other side with all my limbs, so cant complain
Astraboy.
Glad you have got back with all the arms and legs you started with.
Les
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