Hysteria1983

You are not the only one!

DCI Gene Hunt

I'm happy for him to stay, what else would we laugh at otherwise?

JTaylor

At a time when the country is struggling, education budgets are being cut and we all need to pull together, the OP and his destitute daughter decide the poor children won't be joining their friend for the Christmas treat and woe betide the school for not making special provisions! Meetings with the head, letters to OFSTED, contact with the PTA. The women should've paid the fiver and done her bit - it's a joke!

DCI Gene Hunt

..... and exclude some poor girls children from a Christmas party.


That's low, even for you Jackboot Taylor

Lisawrx

iTrader: (1)

Have you ever been poor? And by poor, I mean every penny has to be watched.

A fiver (assuming it was a fiver EACH) may not seem alot to you, but if you are on an extremely tight budget, especially around Christmas, perhaps this was a matter of having to go without this treat as it wasn't a necessity.

Maybe if she had been aware in advance there was going to be this much hassle, she would have asked her Dad for the money, or contacted the school to see if any arrangements could be made.

JTaylor

No.

Hysteria1983

Then you couldn't possibly understand.

Do you have children at school?

JTaylor

Thank you for the question, should I choose to discuss this publicly, I will start a thread inviting comment. I'm afraid this is information I'm unwilling to volunteer. You're more than welcome to send me a PM should you require some parenting advice.

Hysteria1983

Good greif! How rediculous.

You are more than willing to give your opinion on other peoples issues, yet you will not even answer something as daft as 'do you have children at school?'.

I think if you do expect people to treat you seriously, you start acting like it. It won't take long for you to be branded a troll (although it seems that has happened).
Beleive me your ignorance will be where you falter, and the members on here will just ignore you. It won't be worth you even logging in.

If you are on a thread discussing people issues with children and grandchildren I (me personally) would like to know that you ACTUALLY have a child/children. Otherwise your input is worth..... Well, **** all


Grow a pair.

Maz

iTrader: (34)

Oft wrongly attributed to Voltaire.

JTaylor

Just re-read this, Lisa; I don't know about you, but for me one of the highlights of my childhood was that great annual social event in December when I could be resplendent among my peers, drunk on Yuletide cheer! What could possibly take priority over this? And these 'necessities' you talk of that ramp-up at Christmas, what are they? Extra coal? Newspaper to line their ill-fitting shoes? **** me, Dickens would have a field day.

Maz

iTrader: (34)

On the face of it the school does seem to have acted in a very inappropriate manner. I may be wrong but I think there is more to this situation than has been stated.

scoobyd00999

iTrader: (1)

He cant have any children as that would mean he has had sex and you cant have sex when your head is so far up your own ****

Hysteria1983

Hhhmmmm, yes, that would make it difficult.

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

I would think it would be easy for him to have sex as he seems to be a complete ****

Lisawrx

iTrader: (1)

I am not even going to bother answering that. You were lucky enough not to grow up in a poor family, and as such you can't begin to understand having to make sacrifices like this. I very much doubt the mother wanted her kids to miss out on some Christmas fun, but sometimes there isn't a choice.

Thankfully the Christmas 'event' at my primary school was free, so nobody was in a position of having to miss out.

Aaron1978

iTrader: (12)

Oh dear ,you are certainly one sad individual. I hope everyone answers questions from you in the same way. I would feel sorry for any child growing up around you.

boomer

+1

mb

Turbohot

James is getting that much stick here because he doesn't sugercoat. He also has the capacity to argue his point to some lengths, to investigate the other side of the coin. He is rightful to make unsympathetic presumptions on the thread, just like the sympathetic ones made here by others. Utterly unyielding he may come across with his arguments, yet he is a forthright, unambiguous, and an intelligent poster. He should not be made to disappear. His tuppunce, coal, newspaper and satsuma comments attack "nanny state" tendencies in general. Right from the beginning, he was attacking the "band wagon" riot against the education providing body, who can't defend itself here.

My kids' schools always included this line in their letters to the parents for mildly costing events:"the contribution is voluntary". Parents were expected to sign the consent slip below, with or without the money.

My daughter opted out from her years' Ski-ing trip in high school in 2008. She was told that it would be compulsory for her to attend school nevertheless on those days, no skiving. She and her Ski hater friends had to go into other classes, or read books in the library.

Above says that my kids' primary and secondary schools didn't exclude children, but would have preferred the payment. It also says that they did have other arrangements for non-attendees. Students didn't get days off school during that period, even when they would have preferred to be p!ssing about in Chester Game or in MaccyD on those days.

I am surprised with what OP's daughter has faced. If the event was indoors, OP's daughter's kids could have been fitted in, regardless of their inability to pay.

About texting, other professionals e.g. doctors, mental health practitioners, and dentists etc. are sending out official texts to their service users. I am not surprised that schools have also taken texting on board.

If school has genuininely made a boob, then they will apologise, I hope.

JTaylor

Well, there we are. Unfortunately so much of the country's wealth has been diverted towards Family Tax Credit and the like, that schools have become underfunded. It wouldn't surpirse me if some of the recipients were driving around in Subaru Imprezas and then claiming to be 'struggling'.

Hysteria1983

Lisawrx

iTrader: (1)

Just to clarify, I was on about the primary school I went to, and my parents certainly didn't have a subaru of any type.

I just can imagine what it is like for the OP's daughter having come from a poorer background myself.

JTaylor

I don't claim to have a Subaru Impreza.

David Lock

Yes he should

dl

Hysteria1983

I suppose that info regarding the car you own is also deemed to personal to share?

JTaylor

I don't own a car.

Hysteria1983

I rest my case.

JTaylor

zip106

A lefty vegan RE teacher... ?

tony de wonderful

If it's a state school then kids or kids' parents shouldn't have to contribute to activities within school hours, but extracurricular activities are different I suppose.

At my primary school there was a pointless week away at some kids camp, and at my secondary school there was a Ski trip to the Alps. My Parents were low income so I went to neither, instead joining the 'poor kids' in staying at school while 90% went away to have fun.

It was a pretty poor show I thought from the schools in question.

But then in 6th form there was a field trip which was heavily subsidised but we had to contribute a small amount. I went on that.