EddScott

I thought he did well this morning. Good lad for taking the opportunity for sticking the boot in. They didn't know what to do - either talk over him or let him carry on. Breakfast hosts are truly inept IMO.

ScoobyWon't

He normally just pushes himself in front of the traffic on St Peters Way. He'll get wiped out one day.

urban

iTrader: (1)

Surely you just push them where you want them?
Its not like they can do much about it.
Assuming they don't stand up like Andy from Little Britian and thump you

MMT WRX

I didn't think he did himself any favours to be honest. Left me in no doubt he wasn't just a peaceful protester. That's why I thought they were trying to shut him up, before he lost all the sympathy votes.

stephen_942

I say bring the army to police the streets a bit right winged but would sort out crime on the streets. Do you think some yob is gonna try and steal your car when a soldier emerges from a bush with his rifle and bayonet on.

stephen_942

Further to add paris is policed by the french army i was there for new years eve and a few things kicked off but as soon as a squad of soldiers came running down the road it all broke up without them even saying anything.

urban

iTrader: (1)

Yes I do.

Didn't stop it happening in N.Ireland when the troops were present.

Norman D. Landings

I thought he sounded like a right **** on the breakfast show personally. Disability aside, anyone who declares 'I hope that every member of the goverment is removed from their seat like I was removed from my wheelchair' needs to grow up, shut up and go home.

Bunch of soap and tax dodging arseholes IMHO.

dpb

yes but this is just a bunch of scruffy students on rag week,most of them dont have a molatov cocktail under their jackets

stephen_942

And ireland was more like a war.

urban

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Rag week - haven't heard that for a long time.

Not to be confused with "ladies week"

Chip

Totally agree. The disabled go on and on about being treated the same so there is no argument here if he did tell the PC to F off or refuse to move on.

Chip

tony de wonderful

Looks terrible for the Police I have to say...

tony de wonderful

I do wonder whether all the 'gear' the officers wear does not promote a kind of 'revved up' mentality, and most importantly with a full helmet covering your face and head you kind of have something to 'hide behind', symbolically if not in actuality.

Would the Police be more civil with just a normal helmet on? I think people behave better when they don't hide behind anonymity.

DCI Gene Hunt

Here's a thought - for the next "protest" you can dress like a policeman and just stand there in a helmet. Let us know how you get on. You helmet.

Trout

iTrader: (1)

In these situations then yes the copper should be trained to take the abuse from an able or disabled person.

The police are their to minimise aggression and violence, not escalate it.

As a policeman on this thread has said, wheel them in their chair - maybe easier said than done, but surely the first option rather then the dragging thing.

Earlier in the day he was also hit with a police baton. Hmm, very savoury.

Oh, and regarding the comments regarding responsibility - the victim himself agrees he was putting himself in 'harms way' by using he perfectly legal right to make a protest.

Trout

iTrader: (1)

I thought he was very intelligent on Breakfast news - the comments on imperialist oppression was excellent! He also took responsibility for his actions whilst at the same time condemning the police for their actions.




Are you sure they were the army? Or the Gendarmerie? These are the tooled up guys, the policier are more like our normal police?

Having soldiers deployed on our streets is called martial law - we proscribe it in other countries as totalitarian - thankfully we do not have it here.

djandyg

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was just about to post this video, its pretty outrageous....I could never bring myself to do something like that

tony de wonderful

They should have used one of these one him.

tony de wonderful

Parrotting cliches more like.

Trout

iTrader: (1)

Rearrange these words into a well known phrase or saying

the calling pot black kettle

Richie856

While it's easy for some to make comment from just watching a video, as has been said, there may/is other parts of the story.
Also, while admittedly, not all cops are perfect (as in a lot of jobs)..I'd like a lot of people to step into their shows at an event like that. It's noisy, can be pretty intimidating and you get scared and therefore might not think as clearly as you normally would. If protesters are being violent then the adrenaline is going.
If you've been put in that code of dress with helmets and shields, more than likely something is going to happen....it's not just a precaution in case.

We don't get bad student protests up in Glasgow though.

Just the Protestant and Catholic marches

Chip

Again you insinuate that the police are at fault, but do we know why they hit him with a baton. Do you really think the police just go around hitting people in wheelchairs with batons? I don't , I think there might have been a reason for it , don't you?

Chip

GlesgaKiss

Very convenient having the camera right there at that particular time...

Snazy

inclined to agree with that. It's easy to say from the side lines but being there, being judged on everything you do is another matter.

If he had been trampled and the cops said" I asked if he wanted to move, and he said no", they would get torn to shreds for failing in duty of care.

There are some rogues out there, doing dumb things and giving the police a bad name. But what the majority of them are facing is ridiculous.

Now turn to italy and see how their police are handling their riots.

Trout

iTrader: (1)

You are missing a crucial part of the argument.

The police are public servants who have a duty of care to the public and should be trained to execute that duty of care.

Maybe the behaviour on the video is more dumb than dangerous or violent. It certainly does not make for good PR.

Trout

iTrader: (1)

Based on my personal experience and what I have seen over the years than I do think that a policeman could go and hit someone in a wheelchair with a baton.

I mean who could think they could walk up behind some dozy newspaper seller and knock him flat to the ground, from behind, with no warning. It could never happen, could it?

What circumstances do you think are appropriate for a policeman to hit a man in a wheelchair?

Trout

iTrader: (1)

Not a really strong argument, pretty much every member of the public has a camera in their pocket right now.

belliott69

iTrader: (3)

if the said person was abusive or aggresive like any undisabled person. i have nothing against a disabled person and do not treat them any differently to anyone else and although what happened in the video was not right, i would of like to have seen what has happened before to find out why it has resulted in what it has.

DCI Gene Hunt

Here's one of the same "bloke" getting helped (or at least trying to) by two police men claiming he'll get hurt if he stays there....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zulSH...eature=related