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Old 21 December 2010, 04:07 PM
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Eggs in one basket.

A long time I have said that having so much air travel through one airport is a very very bad idea; as there is little or no contingency barring closure and cancellation.

Hence why we need more proper international airports, and less expansions of existing ones.
Old 21 December 2010, 04:15 PM
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OMG, restriction of the "free" press,this cuntry is a democracy, this cant be happining,I blame the people who dint vote at the last election!!

BTW, If you have an accident at work which is NOT your fault (Industrial injury,etc) you CAN be sacked LAWFULLY, (I'm guessin those who have come up with "intelligent arguements"already know this or dont give a s**t!).Hands up all those who want LESS "elf an safety" at work!!
Old 21 December 2010, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by antc
According to the BBC the government have offered the army and baa have turned it down
Yep.
Old 21 December 2010, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Funkii Munkii
Just been chatting to a friend at an airline who will remain nameless, mentioned that their flight was going but BAA closed the doors of the terminal and said no one else allowed in (H&S I would imagine) the airline involved advised they had passengers they wanted to get away and were told the doors stay shut, staff had to go out a side door and call out passengers names and did their best to get those they found away.


FM, whats the deal with the de icers, having spoken to a few people from various airlines they're saying de icing is subbed out and you call them in as required with BA getting priority over everyone else, as they allegedly pay more, how many de icing units has LHR got ?
I would have thought the doors were closed as the terminal was as, or over, it's capacity. We have legal obligations up to ya ya. Just because its disrupted doesn't mean we can run the airport as we see fit. I'm sure the Terminal Duty Manager would have loved to got those pax on their aircraft. Life ain't that simple.

We de-ice the airfield. The airlines re responsible for de-icing their aircraft.
Old 21 December 2010, 05:20 PM
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You were that guy from BAA on the news last night weren't you

So did BAA run out of de icer as well as the subbies ?, what do you use, curious to know as previously mentioned it cant be salt based.
Old 21 December 2010, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Markus
There has been a bit of a **** up on the snow clearing front, however, don't forget that this is the UK, so we're not used to such a large volume of snow, and so aren't prepared for it. I reckon last years storms were written off as a bit of a freak, but now it's happened two years in a row, perhaps they'll see it could be normal and should be better prepared.
That's a bit like saying - if a plane caught fire and there were no fire-trucks - that it was ok because planes catching on fire doesn't happen very often.
Old 21 December 2010, 05:41 PM
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Southern Runway re-opens, looks like the rain we had this afternoon helped out.

Anyone travelling Bmi at least 2 3rds of flights operating tomorrow.

Contingency plan for the next time it happens, get all the staff in for 5 or 6 pints each and they can p1ss on the snow and ice to melt it
Old 21 December 2010, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
That's a bit like saying - if a plane caught fire and there were no fire-trucks - that it was ok because planes catching on fire doesn't happen very often.
If you ever wanted to hear a specious argument - this is it!
Old 21 December 2010, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by antc
That's ****
thanks antc and yes -- but in the grand scheme of things not the end of the world
Old 21 December 2010, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
Aghh I'm transiting through LHR tomorrow evening!

In from Libya, then onto MAN.

My plan is to travel with hand luggage only.

er....and pray.
class! Tosser! confused
Old 21 December 2010, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
er....and pray.
To who exactly? Allah?
Old 21 December 2010, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Funkii Munkii
You were that guy from BAA on the news last night weren't you

So did BAA run out of de icer as well as the subbies ?, what do you use, curious to know as previously mentioned it cant be salt based.
Mr Teacher? Nope, I have a far more stylish hairstyle.

De-icer? Konsin ( nasty stuff ) Clearway 6 and Clearway 3. No we never ran out. Not even close.
Old 21 December 2010, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by FlightMan
Mr Teacher? Nope, I have a far more stylish hairstyle.

De-icer? Konsin ( nasty stuff ) Clearway 6 and Clearway 3. No we never ran out. Not even close.
Does the de-icer evaporate or run off into the environment?
Old 21 December 2010, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by --------
class! Tosser! confused
Well I figure with all the chaos that check in luggage is highly likely to get lost etc.
Old 21 December 2010, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
Well I figure with all the chaos that check in luggage is highly likely to get lost etc.
Theres another thread on here slagggin you off mate (if you aint noticed), They think I'm you????tell em, I've never sucked D*ick or raped badgers before,so i cant be YOU!!Tell em, FFS!
Old 21 December 2010, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by --------
OMG, restriction of the "free" press,this cuntry is a democracy, this cant be happining,I blame the people who dint vote at the last election!!

BTW, If you have an accident at work which is NOT your fault (Industrial injury,etc) you CAN be sacked LAWFULLY, (I'm guessin those who have come up with "intelligent arguements"already know this or dont give a s**t!).Hands up all those who want LESS "elf an safety" at work!!
Explain this.

My understanding is such that you can be dismissed for being 'unable to fulfil contractural obligations' - regardless of fault as this is a personal injury thing then (as I was due to RSI and tenosynovitis). But then you can put in a personal injury claim with regards lost earnings, future loss of earnings etc.

Please do tell if your explanation is different to the above, as after being dismissed for the very reasons above I became quite interested in employment law.

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Old 21 December 2010, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
Does the de-icer evaporate or run off into the environment?
It is captured. It's all very clever and I can't be arsed to explain it. But yes, we are monitored by the Environment Agency as to how we're doing.
Old 21 December 2010, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by --------

OMG, restriction of the "free" press,this cuntry is a democracy, this cant be happining,I blame the people who dint vote at the last election!!

How did that get through then?

dl
Old 21 December 2010, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by FlightMan
It is captured. It's all very clever and I can't be arsed to explain it. But yes, we are monitored by the Environment Agency as to how we're doing.
I would imagine it works in pretty much the same way as a Petrol Station, in that everything goes through an 'Interceptor tank' before entering the main drainage system and in some cases I would imagine that they recycle the water/de-icer too.

Aaron
Old 21 December 2010, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by azz250478
I would imagine it works in pretty much the same way as a Petrol Station, in that everything goes through an 'Interceptor tank' before entering the main drainage system and in some cases I would imagine that they recycle the water/de-icer too.

Aaron
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Balancing ponds.

Did you think they were going to be two different words?
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Originally Posted by chocolate_o_brian
Explain this.

My understanding is such that you can be dismissed for being 'unable to fulfil contractural obligations' - regardless of fault as this is a personal injury thing then (as I was due to RSI and tenosynovitis). But then you can put in a personal injury claim with regards lost earnings, future loss of earnings etc.

Please do tell if your explanation is different to the above, as after being dismissed for the very reasons above I became quite interested in employment law.
Yes you can claim Loss of earnings, BUT this is NOT an automatic right, you have to fight your way through the legal courts, IF YOU DONT SUBMIT AN ACCURATE STATEMENT SUPPORTED BY COMPLETELY INDEPENDANT WITNESSES (can you honestly say your fellow employees are going to make good witnesses baring in mind that THEY will be subject to management bullying afterwards??) which can take years at the best of times you wont win.ACAS has been biased (instructed???) towards the employer,(ALL UNIONS WILL AGREE), and civil courts are reluctant to get involved in employee disputes.EG.A bloke at my company who broke his leg at work, due to complications and numerous operations on said injury, the company has decided to sack him leaving him with a mortgage,wife and two kids to pay for.The tax payer now has to pay for this at approx £79 pw.the fella is now gonna lose his house coz the bank will NOT wait the 3+years till the insurance/company pay out (insurance companies rarely pay out for an injury that has NOT COMPLETLEY HEALED, unless your desperate and need the money, SO YOU AGREE AT A REDUCED COMPENSATION). You still insisting that there should be LESS ELF n SAFETY at work.
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Originally Posted by hutton_d
All you've described is a process that is biased against the employee should he/she claim. B*g all to do with elf n safety!

Dave
Are you daft enough to stick YOUR neck for your company knowing that the system is against you (e.g your manager says go unload that vehicle,without the training or the equipment to do so safely, and you WILL NOT be entitled to full pay while off sick,so from day one your gonna get £79 a week ) if the answer is yes, I'm guessing your a boss or your just a dumb sh*t working class who doesn't know any better! I dont think there are enough Elf n Safety rules, I'm not gonna risk hurting mi self just so I can earn minimum wage.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-12055614


my son (smiling) on the left 25 sec in

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Originally Posted by hutton_d
Well, I don't have to do any guessing here to say you're a complete to55er

Merry Xmas!

Dave
Clearly not a boss as I'm sure a boss could tell the difference between your and you're.
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Originally Posted by --------
You still insisting that there should be LESS ELF n SAFETY at work.
Where did I say about less health & safety in my reply to you? And your post has simply just been a long winded version of what I explained, albeit harder to understand.

I won't go into the details of my legal case against my former employers but I went from £1400 a month to £49.50 a week dole with a mortgage to pay so I know the situation.
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-12055614


my son (smiling) on the left 25 sec in
Awww
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My brother landed in Heathrow this morning from Delhi.

Cheers BAA.


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