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Old 27 December 2010, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
FFS do we have to do this whole Muslims want to take over the world and they are all jihadists thing again!!! Enough is enough!! You are obsessed!!!!!

Mods please can we create an anti-Muslim sticky thread and dump any of these sort of things in it so we only have one thread with this crap.
I think we are really only talking about these nine and their ilk, not all Muslims are Jihadists of course but all Jihadists are Muslim, don't see it as anti Muslim, see it as anti suicide bombing Islamic fundamentalist, if it were still the IRA blowing things up then there would be threads about that if it were nine young Irish men arrested for plotting to cause death and destruction.

People are very keen not to explode, lose limbs or find out their families have met the same fate even if it may cause us to create these tiresome threads about Muslims, nobody is starting threads about Hindu's, Jews, Chinese people or Lesbians because they aren't being nicked for planning to kill.
Old 27 December 2010, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by J4CKO
I think we are really only talking about these nine and their ilk, not all Muslims are Jihadists of course but all Jihadists are Muslim, don't see it as anti Muslim, see it as anti suicide bombing Islamic fundamentalist, if it were still the IRA blowing things up then there would be threads about that if it were nine young Irish men arrested for plotting to cause death and destruction.

People are very keen not to explode, lose limbs or find out their families have met the same fate even if it may cause us to create these tiresome threads about Muslims, nobody is starting threads about Hindu's, Jews, Chinese people or Lesbians because they aren't being nicked for planning to kill.
F1 is just reflecting a siege mentality within the wider muslim community.
Old 27 December 2010, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
The MCB seems to be keeping its head down...
what the fvck has the custodian of World Cricket got to do with this!!!!!
Old 27 December 2010, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
I worked in Saudi for several years.

The locals aren't poor.
17% (approx) of the population live below the poverty line ($1.25 per day).
Old 27 December 2010, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by J4CKO
I think we are really only talking about these nine and their ilk, not all Muslims are Jihadists of course but all Jihadists are Muslim, don't see it as anti Muslim, see it as anti suicide bombing Islamic fundamentalist, if it were still the IRA blowing things up then there would be threads about that if it were nine young Irish men arrested for plotting to cause death and destruction.

People are very keen not to explode, lose limbs or find out their families have met the same fate even if it may cause us to create these tiresome threads about Muslims, nobody is starting threads about Hindu's, Jews, Chinese people or Lesbians because they aren't being nicked for planning to kill.
Well said,totally agree.
Old 27 December 2010, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
FFS do we have to do this whole Muslims want to take over the world and they are all jihadists thing again!!! Enough is enough!! You are obsessed!!!!!

Mods please can we create an anti-Muslim sticky thread and dump any of these sort of things in it so we only have one thread with this crap.
Islamic extremists complain that they dont have a voice, (they get shouted down) let the right wingers say their bit (then point out their inaccuracies/contradictions) otherwise your pushing them in the same direction.
Old 27 December 2010, 08:46 PM
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17% (approx) of the population live below the poverty line ($1.25 per day).
So what are you saying? Without oil it would be some egalitarian utopia?

It was dirt poor before ARAMCO started pumping oil, some people still remain as virtual Bedouin which is what you are referring to. It also has an excellent health care system which is free, NO tax, and fuel which is so cheap as to be ridiculous.
Old 27 December 2010, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by --------
17% (approx) of the population live below the poverty line ($1.25 per day).
In 2008/09 23% of the UK lived below the poverty line.
Old 27 December 2010, 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
So what are you saying? Without oil it would be some egalitarian utopia?

No defo not THAT!

It was dirt poor before ARAMCO started pumping oil, some people still remain as virtual Bedouin which is what you are referring to. It also has an excellent health care system which is free, NO tax, and fuel which is so cheap as to be ridiculous.

Yes Saudi is one of the better middle east countries, as I understand the indigenous population DO pay a small amount of tax on their estimated wealth,and more than 97% of the population are now settled (which includes the Bedouin). Int google brilliant???Of course there is nothing stopping disaffected Saudis from joining there more oppressed brothers over the border who are considerably worse off?
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Yes Saudi is one of the better middle east countries, as I understand the indigenous population DO pay a small amount of tax on their estimated wealth,and more than 97% of the population are now settled (which includes the Bedouin). Int google brilliant???Of course there is nothing stopping disaffected Saudis from joining there more oppressed brothers over the border who are considerably worse off?
Brothers how?

Oppressed how?

OBL - the most famous 'disaffected' Saudi, was born into extreme wealth.
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Originally Posted by azz250478
In 2008/09 23% of the UK lived below the poverty line.
Er,23% of peeps were below the LOW INCOME threshold of £120 pw. just a bit more than $1.25 per DAY then,eh? Still not sure wot your point is though.
Old 27 December 2010, 10:12 PM
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Er,23% of peeps were below the LOW INCOME threshold of £120 pw. just a bit more than $1.25 per DAY then,eh? Still not sure wot your point is though.
My point is no matter what way you look at it, SA has one of the lowest % of populations below the poverty line in the world.

23 % of the UK live below the poverty line for example "The poverty threshold, or poverty line, is the minimum level of income deemed necessary to achieve an adequate standard of living in a given country"

It doesn't matter what the actual amount is money wise, if it costs £100 a day to live out of poverty yet you only earn £50. Then your living in poverty 'eh'
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Old 28 December 2010, 01:36 AM
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oops it's going off again...
Old 28 December 2010, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
FFS do we have to do this whole Muslims want to take over the world and they are all jihadists thing again!!! Enough is enough!! You are obsessed!!!!!

Mods please can we create an anti-Muslim sticky thread and dump any of these sort of things in it so we only have one thread with this crap.
Get a grip and lets not let one person ruin things - the only reason TdW has a voice is because people keep responding to him - if enough people ignored him and didn't respond then job done!

We should e able to discuss most topics without it being turned into slagging matches and p1ssing competitions by the usual suspects - most of us anyway.

And where do you stop - no religious threads whatsoever no threads on current news/events stories likely to get a reply - if so then i am out of here for good. censor the trolls and ignor the trolls not censor the general population of nsr who can have a debate and discussion without turning it nasty - the current guidelines cover racism etc and work and anyone not sure should report a thread/content if they are concerned.

I for 1 do not see this thread as anti-Muslim - i see it as an anti-terrorism thread!!!

Censorship due to a few trolls is not the answer - ignoring them is!

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Old 28 December 2010, 11:57 AM
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Intelligence has done well to pick up the threat, if they are guilty then the consequences could have been dreadful.

I see little point in sending our poorly equipped young soldiers into a war where it has been demonstrated very effectively that they stood no chance of creating a permanent solution by our army many years ago and also the strength of the Soviet army which was ineffective against the Taliban. Why do our leaders allow our soldiers to be sent to the most dangerous part of the country as well, when many of the other countries' troops are not allowed into any dangerous areas.

Does anyone really believe that an Afghan army could keep the Taliban suppressed after we left?

I get fed up of hearing about our teenagers and twenty year olds being brought home in coffins!

Les
Old 28 December 2010, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by hutton_d
It would also help if we all called them what they really are, murdering ba5tards hiding behind and using religion to justify their evil & cowardly acts!

Dave
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Old 28 December 2010, 06:48 PM
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They look very upset at what they have done or tried to do, don't they
Old 29 December 2010, 04:36 PM
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When you think about it, if they are able to come over here and earn money to support the Jihad when they go back, it is hardly surpirising that they will continue to do it.

It must surely be down to our authorities to deny them such an opportunity.

Les
Old 29 December 2010, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
FFS do we have to do this whole Muslims want to take over the world and they are all jihadists thing again!!! Enough is enough!! You are obsessed!!!!!

Mods please can we create an anti-Muslim sticky thread and dump any of these sort of things in it so we only have one thread with this crap.
It's NOT Anti Muslim - It's Anti Terrorist.

Something that we SHOULD discuss freely.
Old 29 December 2010, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
Why do our leaders.........?
Les
Er,they want the fair share of oil???

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