love it, buying a forty plus grand car is an economy measure

 

I must have missed that. Whos bought a £40k car as a down grade, what car are we talking about?

 

even walking will go up in price 2.5% extra vat on trainers lmfao

 

Coffee monitor moment, thanks Lee.




When I voted (for the first time since being eligable), I would have been happy paying a little more in the various forms of tax embedded upon us so long as the leechers were reeled in. The folk who use the welfare state as means of a career choice. This hasn't happened yet but hopefully someone will grow the ***** to address the obvious **** takers.

Then paying more to help reduce the deficit wouldn't be such a bitter pill to swallow. Now whether or not this happens with this government...

All IMO.

 

DingDongler, I take your point and while I keep my Scoob for weekends I have a second vehcile as my day to day car..... which earns me the right to maon

 

I thank you. I had a bug up my *** at the time. Getting sick of being royally shafted and struggling to afford to heat the ruddy house, thanks to greedy, profiteering oil suppliers

 

Moan away dude but I have a right to moan about the moaners. Owning a gas guzzler is not some sort of birth right, for one reason or another fuel will continue to rise in cost there is only a finite amount of it after all.
On top of that it is a pollutant so the less we use the better. If people want to drive high consumption cars fine, but then hand over the money for the pleasure and don't cry about it.

If you don't want to pay the money you have a choice, buy a car with a small engine, yes a 1 litre fiesta if need be. But don't cry about it like a little girl in pink knickers, man up and do what needs to be done.

As I said there is downward pressure on everybodies standard of living at the moment, we just need to get on with things and live within our means. We should remember.how lucky we all are compared to billions of people in the world.

These comments are not directed at you specifically F1.

 

Well I've had an £8k pay cut to start the year

Can't afford to sell the 2.5 X Trail because its worth 3p

Just read an article about house price collapse 2011

Cashing in my few hundred quid premium bonds to food shop January

Savings now down to £20

I still am quite happy to lay the whole blame at the door of Mr Brown/the banks and allowing this country to revolve around house prices /borrowing from equity/new car on every drive.What a screw up

Fuel prices is the last of our worries 2011 will definitely be tough

(I didn't borrow at 5 times salary or get a new car on credit so might actually be easier to ride this massive storm.Think many people are REALLY in for it though)

 

I'm sorry to hear that fella

But just as I did when unemployed through the harshest part of the recession you learn to live with what you have coming in. Not being mortgaged or credited to the eyeballs will certainly help. For me and the Mrs it was a case of buying the cheaper option when shopping or dong research to find a bargain when we needed something. Kinda holds you in good stead as we still do the bargain hunting and try make every £ work as hard as possible.

Best of luck, and I know what it's like to sell your car at well below market value to pay the mortgage and feed yourselves.

 

No they have not stopped Lee, you can be sure of that, and they are still moaning about it being a bit more difficult to do it now too!

Les

 

Doesn't exactly help though when this bunch keep on giving our cash away to impress the other world leaders!

Les

 

Cheers CoB

Its not as bad as it sounds really.I do earn quite well and although its going to be painful we'll be fine.All true but half in jest.My wife is very good on a sensible shopping front and certainly we can't live as we did before but we are still more than comfortable

We wouldn't sell the car anyway,all paid for.6 years old 90k on the clock but fine .We can afford the mortgage and thankfully have never really borrowed or had credit cards.Having said that if it all went wrong we would sell the car!

My concern is for those who have been a bit perhaps silly over the last few years and won't have anywhere to turn.No credit to rely on any more and no pot to dip into

 

im not clued up in the slightest by all this, so can i ask, ok there has been some massive cuts by them to help pay off the debt, more cuts to come so surely its cut our debt repayment time down even if we are still borrowing etc, surely theres a set plan. so when are we suppose to be clear and free?? im aware its gonna take prob 5 years or whatever i spose providing interest rates dont take a hammering we can all struggle on and somehow cope with it all, especially if they turned round ad said its gonna be **** for 5 years but once thats sorted the country will improve


why has nothing like this been said?

in some sence im lucky, i dont own my house and our rent is cheap on what we have, i only owe a grand on a credit card, only loan we took out 5 years ago is up in a couple months no other debts whatsoever and im going to try leave it like that

 

The truthful answer to the first part of your question is nobody knows, the governemnt included and I am not having a dig at them by saying that.

Like it or not the UK is not the only coutnry with problems, some are worse, some are better, but the gloabl recession hit everyone hard. Many here have it all pegged to Labour and Brown's fault and while they sure didn't help with the UK's situation the causes go a lot deeper and wider than that.

What happens in the UK in the next 5-10 years will be affected greatly by what happens in the rest of Europe, US, China ... virtually the whole world so to a certian extent it is out of our hands and hence it is impossible to say when or if we will be out of financial trouble.

Sadly those are the cold hard realities of the situation.

 

furry muff, does make you think how much longer can we as a country cope with higher fuel bills inc gas electric, even a trip to tescos these days means i have to bend over and apply the ky, if it gets much dearer we really will have to look at eating cheaper, not using heating only using car when ness etc, weve allways been happier to pay more to get better food etc we pride on proper british meat from the local butchers, fresh veg etc locally, we even have chickens so we get good eggs
the way this is going im going to have to get some pigs cows and chickens for eating, already got plans for a big veg patch for the summer

 

It was a hell of a lot worse in the post WW2 years, and for quite a long time too.

Les

 

Quite true but that was following a World War.Didn't we owe America rather a lot following that

This is following a period of what appeared to be fantastic prosperity (with no 'bust' in sight)

 

While a lot of that sounds unpaltable right now that is exactly the spirit that will get us through. As Les said it was a lot worse post WW2 and it doesn't really matter what the causes are the fact remains everyone is going to have to do something to help their situation and that of the nation as a whole.

 

well if someones got two many greens ill swap you some propoer free range eggs lol

 

Be great if we do go through an age of austerity and everyone does understand they can't actually have everything.

Last 15 years has been incredible.Britain seems to consist of large supermarkets,town centres consisting mainly of phone shops and car hypermarkets.

Thats it!

 

You would be a bit of a basket case if you consumed 20 Litres of the stuff on a daily basis and 60 litres on the weekends though!

Based on the amount produced/consumed Petrol in this country is not cheap, and hasn't been so for a very long time.

 

I may be no basket case, but for the last two weeks my consumption of both are thus -

Petrol/diesel = 0 litres
Whisky/Whiskey = 2 litres

Therefore, to me, petrol is far cheaper at the moment

 

Yes the reason for it is obvious of course. The whole country had a very low standard of living compared with what we have now.

The period of fantastic prosperity that you mention was actually due to the enormous overborrowing that was going on to make the economy look good when in fact it was going down the tubes.

Les

 

I might look into recycling my P1SS and turning it back into beer,specially when i P1SS out the vodka..

 

What have the Tories actually done to reduce the countries deficit? I realise they've increased the VAT but is this going to make a significant difference?

 

It's gonna take longer than 7 months to make a dent in the deficit left by the previous government!

 

Well the last time a government put up the vat from 15 to 17.5% we fell into a resession you would have thought the tories would have learnt from that as they did it the last time round too (one of the reasons our manufacturing industry departed and the jobless went up a few million).

Tony

 

why do we have troops in Iraq?

how many £s is this costing us then? and the purpose is.............

 

Its an attempt to stop the Sunni's, Shi'ites, and Kurds having a civil war which is just one of the things they did not consider before the attack on Iraq.

Les

 

Of course small cars are a nightmare on owt but commutes.
No space for luggage/belongings, put more than two people in the fuel consumption goes up massively, knocked about by wind etc on motorways, cramped, unable to cruise at high speeds for long without the fuel consumption getting silly.

Anyone who says different is deluded.