How drugs work: cannabis
09 January 2011, 12:04 AM
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I have never tried mushrooms, but I don't eat the regular ones. My brother and his mate used to go up Rhos mountain and pick shrooms and make a broth, but I was too scared to try it.
As for pot, you can smell it a mile off, well, if it's proper green anyway.
Non of that resin
Now I am sounding like a complete stoner!
It's funny, how people have pre conceptions about people who smoke dope/weed/grass.... Whatever you want to call it.
I am 100% happy to know that nobody other than a small group of friends knew I ever smoked it, and anyone who did find out was shocked, as if it was the devils work!
Not I or any of my friend who got together for a smoke looked like your typical 'weed' smokers, dressed in our suits and working the 9-5.
I'm glad to be able to be on the inside looking out, rather than tbe other way around.
As for pot, you can smell it a mile off, well, if it's proper green anyway.
Non of that resin
Now I am sounding like a complete stoner!
It's funny, how people have pre conceptions about people who smoke dope/weed/grass.... Whatever you want to call it.
I am 100% happy to know that nobody other than a small group of friends knew I ever smoked it, and anyone who did find out was shocked, as if it was the devils work!
Not I or any of my friend who got together for a smoke looked like your typical 'weed' smokers, dressed in our suits and working the 9-5.
I'm glad to be able to be on the inside looking out, rather than tbe other way around.
09 January 2011, 12:24 AM
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Hysteria, quite a few people on this thread have admitted to have smoked cannabis. People have also said what they think of dope. Perception of the drug itself and that of the users can be based upon seeing others in a state, and/or getting into a state oneself. My experience is that I have seen some drug users in bad states, and their close people suffering due to their habit. Therefore I do not hold positive perception of any kind of drug or drug users, even of their recreational use.
Sadly I have known more people suffer at the hands of alcohol than I have cannabis.
I have not touched it for a few years, and as I have two children to be responsible for, I plan to stay that way.
Unless of course they ever spend a 2nd night at grandmas.
My son is almost 5 now, so I am not too hopeful! Lol.
09 January 2011, 12:35 AM
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Omg, Mushrooms! Amsterdam07, stag week, it was all legal then, you would buy them on a grade 1 - 5. As it goes, there was 6 of us per room. Our room done the Hawayeins (sp)
Sort of level 2 ish, great night, one of the best night's ever. Some other guy with us, thought a puddle was a lake, so funny.
Sort of level 2 ish, great night, one of the best night's ever. Some other guy with us, thought a puddle was a lake, so funny.
09 January 2011, 12:37 AM
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Define 'state' please.
Would it be any where between psychotic depression through to total and utter elation??
Outwardly though, i would say, from no more of a 'state' than your everyday can't stand up **** head, through to an over confident annoying *****. All traits readily visible in any society.
09 January 2011, 12:41 AM
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Hysteria, quite a few people on this thread have admitted to have smoked cannabis. People have also said what they think of dope. Perception of the drug itself and that of the users can be based upon seeing others in a state, and/or getting into a state oneself. My experience is that I have seen some drug users in bad states, and their close people suffering due to their habit. Therefore I do not hold positive perception of any kind of drug or drug users, even of their recreational use.
Me and all my close mates are not sighing on the dole for example.
09 January 2011, 12:45 AM
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I've seen 4-5 ex-friends f**k their lives up after getting hooked on cannabis, but then i know several who are fine and just use it now and then.
I guess it comes down to the individual.
I guess it comes down to the individual.
09 January 2011, 12:51 AM
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Interesting read.
I think what some people are closed to is the fact ANY drugs have a different effect on people. I know people can only go by what they see/what they think, but so many people miss the whole picture.
I'm not saying drugs are good or bad, or getting into a debate about which are worse, the point I make is that alot comes down to the individual, not to the drug(s) itself.
I think what some people are closed to is the fact ANY drugs have a different effect on people. I know people can only go by what they see/what they think, but so many people miss the whole picture.
I'm not saying drugs are good or bad, or getting into a debate about which are worse, the point I make is that alot comes down to the individual, not to the drug(s) itself.
09 January 2011, 12:52 AM
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Just decided to have a search on catch up on VM. Sat watching it now.
To be fair my one and only experience was via second hand schmoke. Me, a couple of (then) smoker mates and my cousin who's a stoner were in his flat just chilling, listening to some Sasha and basically passing an evening by. They were having a schmoke (away from me granted as I've never tried a cigarette etc) and a couple hours later I was the most relaxed and chilled out one there. Off my tree, or so it felt but no feeling of sickness or hallucinations. I have no intention of ever schmoking the stuff but my one and only experience of it being in my body was a relaxing one.
To be fair my one and only experience was via second hand schmoke. Me, a couple of (then) smoker mates and my cousin who's a stoner were in his flat just chilling, listening to some Sasha and basically passing an evening by. They were having a schmoke (away from me granted as I've never tried a cigarette etc) and a couple hours later I was the most relaxed and chilled out one there. Off my tree, or so it felt but no feeling of sickness or hallucinations. I have no intention of ever schmoking the stuff but my one and only experience of it being in my body was a relaxing one.
09 January 2011, 12:55 AM
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Interesting read.
I think what some people are closed to is the fact ANY drugs have a different effect on people. I know people can only go by what they see/what they think, but so many people miss the whole picture.
I'm not saying drugs are good or bad, or getting into a debate about which are worse, the point I make is that alot comes down to the individual, not to the drug(s) itself.
I think what some people are closed to is the fact ANY drugs have a different effect on people. I know people can only go by what they see/what they think, but so many people miss the whole picture.
I'm not saying drugs are good or bad, or getting into a debate about which are worse, the point I make is that alot comes down to the individual, not to the drug(s) itself.
"The 3 S's:
Substance.
Surroundings.
Self."
Howard Marks.
09 January 2011, 01:01 AM
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The only time i tried cannabis i spent about 15 minutes standing there having a **** (didn't realise i'd finished), then ate 8 ham sandwiches, 2 packets of crisps, and half a cake!!!
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09 January 2011, 01:03 AM
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Really sounds like you had a bad experience and got into a fight and smashed up your local city centre, assaulted Doctors in A&E and cost the country loads??
09 January 2011, 01:24 AM
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The one, and ONLY!!!, time I did it was when my mate 'forced' (persuded) me - against my strongest protestations - into taking a couple of tokes on his home-made bong (made from a 1.5l squash bottle).
After, I, somewhat cockily and arrogantly, thought what is all the fuss about - thought nothing had effected me.
When I drove home though, halfway through the journey, I 'come up' and I had a hallucination. I felt like I was really tiny (near Action Man sized lol) but could somehow still reach the pedals, gearstick and steering wheel, and still drive my (normal sized) car! But ultimately I felt out of control. I was freakin' out big time and deliberately went onto the dual carriageway, as I was worried about the BiB in town, sideroads, etc. But because of the psychotic state, I must have been driving at 10-20mph on the DC - felt totally out of control. This freaked me out even more, as if there was a patrol car around, it would surely have pulled me over.
Somehow I managed to get home and immediately wanted to get in bed and fall asleep, to hide from this horrible experience... But before doing so, I looked into the mirror and my head was morphing in and out and grotesquely changing shape, etc. (Some people tell me, "No John, that's how your head normally looks."
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A completely fvcked up experience.
After, I, somewhat cockily and arrogantly, thought what is all the fuss about - thought nothing had effected me.
When I drove home though, halfway through the journey, I 'come up' and I had a hallucination. I felt like I was really tiny (near Action Man sized lol) but could somehow still reach the pedals, gearstick and steering wheel, and still drive my (normal sized) car! But ultimately I felt out of control. I was freakin' out big time and deliberately went onto the dual carriageway, as I was worried about the BiB in town, sideroads, etc. But because of the psychotic state, I must have been driving at 10-20mph on the DC - felt totally out of control. This freaked me out even more, as if there was a patrol car around, it would surely have pulled me over.
Somehow I managed to get home and immediately wanted to get in bed and fall asleep, to hide from this horrible experience... But before doing so, I looked into the mirror and my head was morphing in and out and grotesquely changing shape, etc. (Some people tell me, "No John, that's how your head normally looks."
).A completely fvcked up experience.
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09 January 2011, 02:10 AM
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Its interesting to see the amount of people who have hallucinated from using cannabis.
Not something I have experienced personally and I cant say that I have seen any of my friends trip from using cannabis.
Not something I have experienced personally and I cant say that I have seen any of my friends trip from using cannabis.
09 January 2011, 09:43 AM
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I just waisted loads of money on it, and then even more going out for posh meals as standard munchies were not enough for my posh mates.
Times were not bad, or good it was the company that was good, and the experiences we shared.
And I am happy to say I shared them smoking cannabis, than getting drunk.
Not that I am against drinking, I just don't lime to over infildge in alcohol.
The problem is, IF you wanted to compare to two I found it easier to moderate the intake of cannabis over alcohol. The effects of cannabis happen faster so you know when to slow down or stop, but your body takes a whe to feel the effects from alcohol, so before your know you have had one too many, you may have had one too many.
Now I know that is not a perfect example as most people here know how to control alcohol intake. BUT to compare properly you would have to have people with the same limited use of alcohol as cannabis in order to see true results.
09 January 2011, 09:45 AM
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09 January 2011, 10:04 AM
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I ended up at a druggie party a couple of weeks ago. I don't mind a joint being passed around but these guys were chain smoking the stuff, snorting crystal MDMA and inhaling nitrous oxide from balloons! Most of them had nothing interesting to say for themselves, they seemed to live in this endless cycle of getting high - everything else was just a distraction.
09 January 2011, 11:07 AM
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I ended up at a druggie party a couple of weeks ago. I don't mind a joint being passed around but these guys were chain smoking the stuff, snorting crystal MDMA and inhaling nitrous oxide from balloons! Most of them had nothing interesting to say for themselves, they seemed to live in this endless cycle of getting high - everything else was just a distraction.
09 January 2011, 11:30 AM
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Detrader, I can only say on the basis of what I have seen. I never said that all or most drug users are dolies. For example, look at Robbie Williams. He is a top singer, but he has been a serious addict. I never heard that he ever signed on
09 January 2011, 11:45 AM
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http://www.mind.org.uk/help/diagnose..._mental_health
I can not justify whatever state cannabis puts people into, although I do not rule out its therapeutic qualities. This is the view I hold about cannabis. It doesn't have to be your view. You stay with the point of view that suits you. Free country and all that.
Outwardly though, i would say, from no more of a 'state' than your everyday can't stand up **** head, through to an over confident annoying *****. All traits readily visible in any society.
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09 January 2011, 11:47 AM
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Interesting comments here.
I am quite old and have been 'good' (absolutely no drugs and little alcohol) but as time passes you wish to experience all that the world has to offer before death hits you. Obviously nothing that brings that event forward but this seemed relatively safe.
I am quite old and have been 'good' (absolutely no drugs and little alcohol) but as time passes you wish to experience all that the world has to offer before death hits you. Obviously nothing that brings that event forward but this seemed relatively safe.
Les
09 January 2011, 11:58 AM
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Smoked heavily in my late teens. Won't touch the stuff now - the stuff in the UK is usually poor and I can't be doing with being stoned anymore.
Prefer simulants/chems but again don't really bother due to quality. The semi-legal stuff is terrible and having used it a couple of times (including a nigh on 2 our panic attack) it actually concerns me when people use this stuff - and I've used pretty much everything at some point.
Don't like alcohol and a pack of 20 **** lasts me at least a week.
Prefer simulants/chems but again don't really bother due to quality. The semi-legal stuff is terrible and having used it a couple of times (including a nigh on 2 our panic attack) it actually concerns me when people use this stuff - and I've used pretty much everything at some point.
Don't like alcohol and a pack of 20 **** lasts me at least a week.
09 January 2011, 01:24 PM
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I also could not do with being stoned day to day any more. I actually went totally drug free for a year so my tolerance is now zero. Hence totally faced from half a spliff.
Again, my preference was the fast stuff. The quality i ended up with was again A1, a very wet paste. Not saying i didn't come accross some crap on along the way.
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