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10 January 2011, 10:22 PM
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PSlewis had a good point here.
I'd accept the 20% vat increase a bit easier if we weren't bailing out every other country around us like we're still some big shot Empire. Stop giving my money away to other countries, KEEP IT HERE!
I'd accept the 20% vat increase a bit easier if we weren't bailing out every other country around us like we're still some big shot Empire. Stop giving my money away to other countries, KEEP IT HERE!
10 January 2011, 10:22 PM
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Says a lot about your integrity and intelligence.
I will leave it there!!!!
10 January 2011, 10:28 PM
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Sorry but I really don't think he does have a point. Who is he to tell me to vote for a bunch of lying self serving w4nkers.
11 January 2011, 12:40 AM
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We had a candidate who stood locally for a protest vote. I voted for this. Tories, labour and the lib dems are all a waste of space and not worthy of my vote.
Why should we vote for someone we don't believe in?
Why should we vote for someone we don't believe in?
11 January 2011, 09:27 AM
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Just seen Cleggy on the breakfast TV saying, "We need a strong banking sector and must reward those in it with massive pay and massive bonuses" .... how he has changed!!
I had a lot of time for Vince Cable before the Election, and would have walked over glass to get him into the Government to sort out the Bankers and other Business excesses .... turns out he is just like the MP's of the other parties!!!
It's pathetic!! I am especially disgusted by the Lib-Dems ... clearly, they could say anything they wanted when they thought they would never have any power .... now they have power they are an utter, utter, disgrace!!
The Tories ... well, we knew what we would get with them - and they are doing just what they do do - look after the rich and nail the poor. Demolish the NHS, run down public schools and reward their friends in the City.
Turns out that Labour did, actually, have the best way .... the middle way .... the right way.
The current polls show that most people want Labour back in - it's too late now - I did warn you all ......
I had a lot of time for Vince Cable before the Election, and would have walked over glass to get him into the Government to sort out the Bankers and other Business excesses .... turns out he is just like the MP's of the other parties!!!
It's pathetic!! I am especially disgusted by the Lib-Dems ... clearly, they could say anything they wanted when they thought they would never have any power .... now they have power they are an utter, utter, disgrace!!
The Tories ... well, we knew what we would get with them - and they are doing just what they do do - look after the rich and nail the poor. Demolish the NHS, run down public schools and reward their friends in the City.
Turns out that Labour did, actually, have the best way .... the middle way .... the right way.
The current polls show that most people want Labour back in - it's too late now - I did warn you all ......
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11 January 2011, 10:18 AM
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If Labour were in power, could you imagine the state of the economy with Alan Johnson at the helm of the UK economy? Disaster averted I'd say!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNhZkFcYhlw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNhZkFcYhlw
11 January 2011, 10:23 AM
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Granted Alan Johnson should never be shadow chancellor let alone chancellor, but you really think the disaster has been averted?
I wish I was so sure. More VAT, more fuel duty, rising prices, rising fuel costs etc. ..... the economy could well double dip unless the government are careful... and I doubt they understand that word.
I wish I was so sure. More VAT, more fuel duty, rising prices, rising fuel costs etc. ..... the economy could well double dip unless the government are careful... and I doubt they understand that word.
11 January 2011, 10:28 AM
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No I didn't. The main parties are made up of short termist, greedy, dishonest, self serving career politicians who are out to line their pockets and have very little genuine interest in the good of the country.
After 18 years of Thatcherism, 12 years of Blairism and a Liberal Democrat parrty that does not know its **** form its elbow the country is in a complete sorry mess and I decided it really did not matter who got in as they would all go back on their promises and carry on lying and conniving to further their own ends and so far I am spot on.
No point voting if there is nothing to vote for.
After 18 years of Thatcherism, 12 years of Blairism and a Liberal Democrat parrty that does not know its **** form its elbow the country is in a complete sorry mess and I decided it really did not matter who got in as they would all go back on their promises and carry on lying and conniving to further their own ends and so far I am spot on.
No point voting if there is nothing to vote for.
I still think we should vote though, there are other parties to vote for and that could give them all a real shock which might just concentrate their minds a bit more.
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11 January 2011, 10:36 AM
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The thing is, this is just the start ....... it's going to hurt a lot of people badly.
Cameron says we are all in it together ... what bollox that is!!
Cameron and his cronies are all multi-millionaires .... they won't be feeling any pain whatsoever!!
They are engaging in some Social Engineering under the cloak of debt repayment!
Cameron says we are all in it together ... what bollox that is!!
Cameron and his cronies are all multi-millionaires .... they won't be feeling any pain whatsoever!!
They are engaging in some Social Engineering under the cloak of debt repayment!
The thought of an imitation of that lying plonker makes me feel ill!
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11 January 2011, 10:46 AM
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Cameron looks like he understands that Blair was the greatest leader we have had in a generation - the history books will show that to be the case.
1997 - 2010 were the golden years ... and will be looked upon with affection.
Blair got most things right
1997 - 2010 were the golden years ... and will be looked upon with affection.
Blair got most things right
11 January 2011, 11:04 AM
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Granted Alan Johnson should never be shadow chancellor let alone chancellor, but you really think the disaster has been averted?
I wish I was so sure. More VAT, more fuel duty, rising prices, rising fuel costs etc. ..... the economy could well double dip unless the government are careful... and I doubt they understand that word.
I wish I was so sure. More VAT, more fuel duty, rising prices, rising fuel costs etc. ..... the economy could well double dip unless the government are careful... and I doubt they understand that word.
11 January 2011, 11:49 AM
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The cost of implementing the reduction to 15%, which failed to boost the economy, with further losses after restoring the rate back to 17.5% at the worst time of the year where December is the most busiest time of the year for retailers.
11 January 2011, 11:58 AM
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OH, I see ... so - basically, it was a wild guess at £90million then ...... as no-one can say why people buy and don't buy at any particular time with any degree of certainty.
11 January 2011, 12:06 PM
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Well if it is a wild guess, then that lies with the British Retail Consortiium. I assume that it's the cost to altering retailer's IT system, re-pricing of stock, changes in the point of sales system, etc which inevitably have a knock on effect down the supply chain in the whole retail sector. This of course would have cost a similar amount again when it was restored back to 17.5%.
11 January 2011, 12:07 PM
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Labour's Vat cut to 15% cost retailers £90m in lost revenue. It had little effect on the economy and cost the Treasury £12.5bn. Alistair Darling backed the VAT rise 20%, so it would have increased had Labour stayed in power. This shows that the current Labour leader, Ed Miliband, is nothing more than a shameless political opportunist.
11 January 2011, 12:12 PM
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I agree with most of what you say. MP's are a shocking lot these days. The large majority of them are in it only for themselves with no sense of duty towards the country or its people.
I still think we should vote though, there are other parties to vote for and that could give them all a real shock which might just concentrate their minds a bit more.
Les
I still think we should vote though, there are other parties to vote for and that could give them all a real shock which might just concentrate their minds a bit more.
Les
It really wasn't worth a vote for any of them in my book.
11 January 2011, 12:17 PM
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You do know how to tell 'em Pete!!!
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11 January 2011, 01:06 PM
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It relates to your point regarding VAT rises. But yes, I agree, things could be better, we've yet to see anything from Cameron with regards to his "fair fuel stabiliser" pledge and doubt we very much will, for example. But I feel we are in much better hands than with the likes of Labour's "Bert and Ernie" running the country. When the best that the shadow chancellor can offer is propose an increase in the rate of national insurance, of which he doesn't even know and would stifle job creation, the current government it seems have the better understanding of the country's economy. They are by no means perfect, but they are certainly not the worst of a bad bunch.
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It relates to your point regarding VAT rises. But yes, I agree, things could be better, we've yet to see anything from Cameron with regards to his "fair fuel stabiliser" pledge and doubt we very much will, for example. But I feel we are in much better hands than with the likes of Labour's "Bert and Ernie" running the country. When the best that the shadow chancellor can offer is propose an increase in the rate of national insurance, of which he doesn't even know and would stifle job creation, the current government it seems have the better understanding of the country's economy. They are by no means perfect, but they are certainly not the worst of a bad bunch.
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