SpecDscooby

No mate, but with the amount of fun i'm having reading people getting annimated while i post ironic responses and you dig the whole deeper at each chance,.....i will be here for a while

pslewis

That's quite correct, and why it takes a different kind of driving to get the best out of it.

Someone who can drive can do that ... I suppose my vast experience puts me well placed in ability to be able to operate the gearbox in the way needed with a Diesel - some, not you particularly, seem to struggle with the operation of the gearbox on a diesel.

Petrol Sports Car? Like my MX5, maybe? Yes, they are different beasts ... but I can jump from one to the other, and back, and get the best out of them.

CHOLTON

first diesel cars, then p1ssing in a bag[/QUOTE]

WRXrowdy

iTrader: (2)

Sell the scooby for a wiesel, never.
Might sell me volvo t4 for one though, it's thirstier than the scoob and not as quick, struggle to get 250 miles to the tank driving it sensibly.

And put your ***** back in your pants Mr Lewis before it gets trodden on, wiesel honda quicker than a scooby, get real .

pslewis

I suppose Diesels are for those who know, and know they know, not for those who haven't the capacity to know that they don't even know

DJ_Jon

iTrader: (7)

You are preaching to the choir Pete, I can happily jump into any car & get the most out of the box, especially a diesel, I spend so much fecking time in minicabs, I watch the way they drive to get the most flexibility out of a derv lump. It's all about using that torque, no need to rev the engine.

That said, my 2,5 Sti is very torquey indeed & needs very little in the way of revs to produce licence inducing speeds.

SpecDscooby

I think they are for those who dont know, and dont know they dont know....if they did know they would'nt know they knew. pmsl

DJ_Jon

iTrader: (7)

Stop making my head hurt!

WRXrowdy

iTrader: (2)

Well I know that I have driven around 20 diesel powered vehicles in my lifetime so I guess that makes me qualified to "know".

pslewis

Indeed you may have ... but they have clearly been Transits, lorries and clapped out sheds ... I'm talking performance diesels here, a different beast to what you have experienced obviously by what you are saying.

Terminator X

iTrader: (7)

FPMSL how does a diesel perform before the turbo kicks in

Other than PSL, most of us aren't!

TX.

SpecDscooby

TX i hear Rosmary Conley' is very good, as is Atkins for quick results:

profile pic of the month

Alan MaC

Ah PEDRO,


Good to have you back.

Quality, how you can wind them all up

ATVB


AM

WRXrowdy

iTrader: (2)

Yes of course they are, I have never driven diesel cars in my life and don't know how or when to change gear, your right, you obviously know each and every vehicle I have driven and that I am a complete muppet and I am off to trade in my Subaru for something far more sensible.
Thankyou for your inspiration .

Shaun

There is a fine line between rattling ones cage and receiving the same as what you dish back at ya!

Sorry to disagree with you sir, but if you think your Honda gives me the same excitement that my Scoob gives me.... you need to get out more!

Of course you are right..... my last jibe about finances was just that, a jibe. You should know all about that!

Shame on you then..... most people like me have been using Diesels for years and will continue to.

Coming from someone who openly admitted to not take his Scooby over 3k in any gear..... your comment is rather laughable! That's like having a ***** and not using it for sex! You can not have sex, fair enough... but your missing out on so much pleasure!

Any car is potent..... regardless of fuel.

I sold the Spec C in August and bought another Scoob straight away to replace it with. Obviously I thought about what I wanted as another weekend car, but that sure for **** would not of been a Diesel. One "pslewis" super sports Diesel that I also own, is more than enough for any Senna wannabee.

Good job I have two performance cars to choose from then! lol One when I want to be a real driver and the other for when I want to be a total driving ludite. Which is which though!

WRXrowdy

iTrader: (2)

I would like to know what Honda you have, as the top spec Accord diesel only has 280lb/ft of torque and 0-60 in little under 9 seconds and just over 130mph is hardly Impreza quick .

I have 'played' with a VW Pheaton V10 TDi that has over 550lb/ft of torque, could it catch me, could it ****.

Bubba po

AFPMSL!!

Just look at how much petrol I can put in my Subaru with the THREE THOUSAND POUNDS you lost on your car this year! Now that's what I call a "crippling cost".

Alan MaC

PEDRO>>>>



Here's another one to ponder>>>


Unless this lot change their game>>>


Guess What>>>

UNLESS PETROL DROPS BIG TIME IN PRICE.

In April THIS YEAR>>>

Fuel goes up by Another>>>>>>>4.5P A Litre!!!

Good post PEDRO


Regards



****

73henny

Not crap - you just need the right tyres
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aahMDAr0ksM

73henny

Read;

The Honda Civic forums must be boring
or
Nobody speaks to me on the Honda forums
or
Honda owners can't operate these new fangled computer things
or
I wish I was young again
or
I wish I still had a Subaru

madscoob

iTrader: (3)

when presented with the facts you go all quiet and dont answer my post , i sugest you read them . the figures are there for all to see n read depreciation alone has cost you 30pence per mile as for the savings you FAILED to provide the difference in cost between your oil burner and the equivelent petrol model therfore making it harder to prove what a donkey *** purchase your honda was a classic example of bending over to pick up 5pence and putting your *** through a 50quid window as a rough guess figures based on guesses i would estimate you will have to do 300,000 miles at least to recoup your losses and that doesnt include the depreciation granted your oil burner second hand with 120.000 on the clock will be worth slightly more tha the same petrol model if diesel is still made when you have done with the car the second owner will get a bargain and laugh all the way to the pumps you on the other hand will look back and think F me i wish i had of listened to that bloke on scoobynet who bothered to work it all out , QUESTION FOR YA why do you think companies lease diesels now and dont buy them any more , ANSWER exactly for the reason i have told you A BRAND NEW DIESL CAR WILL NEVER PAY YOU BACK THE DIFFERENCE IN PURCHASE PRICE DURING YOUR OR THE CARS LIFETIME get over yourself buy a secondhand scoob again and enjoy life to the full its to short to own a diesel

porteouz

iTrader: (1)

Well max torque in my car is 1500rpm so I don't know

Littleted

I hazard a guess hes got the ****e type s the only good diesal is the ex with goodies but all same engine

Hes prob mapped it knowing it was **** to get more and now its a little less ****

I ran an ex for a year was ok car nice gadgets but no spart just as they all are same as the other 50 140 bhp diesals

dunx

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Our Ex-Club chairman had a Scoob, and was given a BMW diesel by his (new) employers. On a run round the Pennines he could barely keep up over the less smooth roads, and he was constatntly annoyed by the TC warnings constantly going on and off.

Overall experience less impressive. But as a company car driver he didn't have to worry about the fuel costs...

dunx

P.S. I'm tired of TDCi owners trying "own" me, I can make smog too !

P.P.S. Diesel is a less refined by-product of crude oil, produced in addition to petrol, AVgas, etc.

Littleted

On proper head on now

If you do a lot of Miles IE Salesmen, IT Nuts and Bolts technician, Plumber etc then Diesal and the only reason really is for MPG.Now if your like me get a company allowance, and they also give u 2xp a mile for fuel, if u drive normally i can and so the computer tells me had a return of 31mpg from leeds to London, infact i did 234 Miles to aldershot on just over half a tank, i though very good.

Also if you earn maybe 30k upwards or 20k and single then a scoob is in ya budget, the Car tax does hurt, fuel well to be honest i dont notice that much, its not as though its a manaro is it.

what ya normally find is Diesal owners normally have a either a large commute to work, or do miles in there daily Job, any that dont need there head testing Diesal particle filter beast will eat you.

I remember when i had my Audi A4 sline i had it Mapped by Angel Tuning to 180 and thought nothing could own me. How wrong i was, handed my **** to me many times they just dont have it.

Now a 335d diff story they are dare i say it beasts, BUT an Insignificant beast, looks all the same be it 25k BMW or a 40k BMW

Subaru is a specialist car for people who have weighed up the costs, yes Petrol does cost a few Bob, but i personally think the goverment will not raise it in the summer, IF they do i think marchs will happen and they will be lobbied by the truckers it just cant keep on going up.

on a last note just noticed my wifes Zafira has 320nm or torque chipped it gets 377 or 428 the 0-60 is only 1 sec more than your civic PS now that would **** me off being beaten by a people carrier

In fact a VXR Zafira would hand u your ***, thankfully it wouldnt to any of us

P600wrx

iTrader: (1)

if ya worried about fuel buy a prias lol, i just go to petrol station when the neddle is at the bottom and fill it up, there is nothing we can do about fuel prices, i have seen a few going on about lpg but really i would rather spend that amount making it go even quicker lol,

mark

pslewis

I do wonder how many will change when fuel is £1:50 a Litre - as it is forecast to be in April 2011 .... this Tory bunch are adding duty and VAT and duty and tax and more tax.

As a weekend car I can see the attraction, but, still - my 16 year old MX5 delivers as many smiles as any car (at 40 mpg).

The time of the Scooby has passed - and that's a sad thing - I would have loved to have bought another ........ but, it just doesn't add up anymore (even though I can afford to own one - I can get the same thrills for 1/3rd of the costs) ... just how it is these days.

rogos

firstly i am not paying through the nose for my scoob as i can afford it and if its had its day then why are they still so popular? and modern cars dont deliver the same goods because they are not as nostalgic as my scoob, it delivers everything i need without crippling costs as you put it! you also say 'money is no issue' with one hand and then you say with the other that 'how you spend it is', ie: it isnt but when really it is. this tells me that you are a tight-*** on a tight budget...yes diesels are getting better but they are all bottom and no top, its ok i suppose if you tow a caravan behind it but i still like my scoob and i tell you something else shall i, i am yet to come across a diesel that will leave me behind a friend at work has got a top of the range vauxhall astra diesel and he kept banging on at how it is faster than my scoob, well guess what you ask him which ones fastest now. all i can say is 'the car in front is a subaru' . I also like the bit at the end where you say us kiddies under 30 dont understand the potency of a diesel... well guess what i am 27, i am a light and heavy veh technician of 11yrs and i work on a very large range of motor vehs so as i understand the ins and outs of both veh variants very well i would go so far as to say i definately and catagorically know which is best in respect of what car is best for me and by the way i have no probs with the gearbox's or shifting gears at all, diesel or not i have never ever missed a gearshift oh and by the way i also drive trucks, i wonder how you would fair with an 'eaton twin split constant mesh' thats if you know what one is and how many gears its has without looking on google first.

it doesnt matter how much you try to justify your purchase of a pants car to me because i havent got to drive it nor has anyone else on here and if its that good why dont you join a honda car club seen as this is called scoobynet i am sure youd be welcomed with open arms.

Littleted

What you bought a ***** ? cos your list above has no Thrill factor in my book, Not unless your a Hairdresser.

ScoobySteve69

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I work 4 on 6 off so only travel to work 12 times a month so at the moment fuel cost isn`t a problem. The only time it `hurts` is when I go down to Kent to see my girlfriend.....totally worth it though ;-)