lordharding

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There is only one solution for everyone one this thread





45mpg and goes as fast as my classic which is only for weekend smiles now

stanmo

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Pete has a strong point if everyone needs to buy a new car now, but given the extra cost of diesel cars over petrol, it takes a while to recoup the cost if you don't do high mileage.

If a proportion of owners here own their car outright, changing it for a newish diesel adds outlay for monthly repayments, which are likely to be more than fuel considering the market for selling/trading in imprezas (and legacy) at the moment.

I'd rather not change car at the moment, as jobs aren't secure, and swapping an owned asset for a finance agreement doesn't make sense.

When the time comes, I'm sure I'll be looking at the tuning options on the boxer diesel as my wife wants 4wd, if nothing other than to annoy the other mums on snowy school runs.

SpecDscooby

Even at £1.50 a ltr petrol is half the price of a pint of beer (slightly over half a ltr 568ml) in a local pub, it is less than a ltr of Coca Cola, and is cheaper than many bottled waters!


Ever buy a 330ml can of coke for 50pence?....that is the same cost as a ltr of petrol.

Refined from crude oil, pumped from the bowles of the planet, through a pipeline, onto a super tanker, into another pipeline to a refinery, fractionally distilled, turned to petrol, into a petrol tanker, back under the ground, up another pipe, out a nozzle, into your car.

Petrol is cheap...the tax sucks but for what it takes to create it is VERY INEXPENSIVE, a great many people are involved and risks are taken, can you say the same about a can of coke>?

bugeyejohn

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The price of fuel has gone up for everyone not just scooby owners,its all relative to what you can afford,if your covering a lot of miles and cant afford to run the scooby buy the mrs a cheap runaround score some brownie points and use that and get the real car out at weekends.A lot of owners have there cars not as a daily drive but more as a hobby and a interest and used like this there a lot cheaper than going to the pub plus you dont get a hangover

budgie smuggler

How much for one of them then big guy.

tony de wonderful

...another pslewis thread about his diesel Honda. LOL

madscoob

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with the running costs of a 1970's moped now that is the best laugh ive had in years . so far that honda PILE has cost you about 45pence per mile in fuel and lost value alone thats without tyres and servicing . FACE THE FACTS MAN THAT CAR WILL NEVER RETURN THE EXTRA MONEY IT HAS COST YOU in fact you could probably got a taxi everywhere for the rest of your life and SAVED MONEY

tony de wonderful

Don't go there ha ha it's what pslewis wants.

Anyway I heard he does drive a lot of miles, wasn't he bragging once that he must have drove several million in his lifetime? Maybe his oil burner had paid for itself?

madscoob

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no chance read my previous post he will have to do about 350,000 miles to recoup his money and that doesnt include depreciation 3grand so far lets say 10,000 miles thats 30pence per mile before you start, classic bend over to pick up 5pence and stick your **** through a 50 quid window senario

bioforger

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haha love it, Lewis your original 1st post in this thread didn't really entice the sheep of SN as much as you wanted, so you threw in the performance is better than any scoob line to really whip them up, classic Lewis

pslewis

I don't undestand this cost thing .... why would I need to do 350,000 miles to re-coup my 'extra' outlay?

A STi would have cost me £27,500 as an in stock car ..... the Honda cost me a bit less than £18,000.

So, for £10,000 LESS I get a better equiped car, a car as reliable as a Subaru, a car that is built with decent materials, a car that does 55 mpg yet still lives with a STi in real world driving ..... I fail to see how I can lose!!??

Quids in and smile galore ... win, win, win and win again

bioforger

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lol

lordharding

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Not cheap now £22500 base

Gone up £2500 since i got mine 18 months ago and paid £22800 with my bits on it

Worked out a lot cheaper then the 330s I was planning to buy with road tax at £155
Services @12k miles £220 no cam belt to change and insurance at £250 and of course 500 to the tank at. £69 at currrent prices

It's what I wanted and waited a long time to it came out and was one of the first in the uk to get one Stan palmers gave me a great deal ,as always on my octavia L&k

There is some great diesel cars ,octavia ,seats, audi,BMW etc but I love the Subaru marque and my classic turbo is nearly 11years old since new and the car I have ever owned

Stiffer suspension and handling pack and a nice exhaust and tweaked brakes would make it as good as the classic ,once the warranty expires it will happen .

I believe deisel flat four is the future for subaru with soaring petrol costs and car tax at £400 + a year

tony de wonderful

I think the point is you could have kept your old car instead of 'investing' 18 large to save 0.01 p per mile.

pslewis

OH, I see .....

Would my old girl go through another 3 years and 30,000 miles without repair costs? It may do - but chances are it will need work.

I don't have to worry about repairs for 3 years ......

Of course, it's usually madness buying a new car - but, I do keep them 10 years ... works out great value if reliable.

The higher the price of fuel the more sense my choice makes

tony de wonderful

Yes but I'm pointing out that if the point is to save money then it still may have been cheaper to run your old car for a bit.

Buying a new car to save a tiny bit of money on fuel is a false economy.

Pink_Floyd

I've read this thread and come to the conclusion that if I thrust a bit slower my Mrs (car gets longer with less wear, and if I trade her in for a less sporty model I'll get more 'road time' but less fun and more expensive to feed by the portion?

tyler120706

Due to losing my job before xmas i RELUCTANLEY sold my classic wrx and bought a 2001 bugeye GX sti look a like ok theres no turbo and half as much pleasure driving it, but my wrx cost my 30 quid to do a 100 mile round trip mostly motorway and drving quite sensibilly. I drove to birmingham yesterday and back doing a steady 85ish which is 200 mile round trip for roughly 25 quid.
Fuel at my local shell is 1.23pl for unleaded i believe v power is around 1.35pl now, I ll freely admit i cant afford to run another 300 bhp scooby right now alot of people are struggling due to this cocked up financal situation. Everything is going up this years take the P1ss VAT increase is just the icing of the cake

I believe its time to blockade the M1 again like i think it was 1999 (when fuel didnt get anywhere near as bad as it is now) instead of dirty artics doing it, it should be legions of subarus at 5 mph there is enough of us to do it. the same thing brought fuel down back then. WHAT DO YOU ALL SAY ?????

Shaun

My Mondeo TDCI has just gone past 3yrs old and has not needed any work, apart from routine servicing every 12500 miles, which is stupidly cheap imo (well compared to the previous VW's I owned). It is also coming up to 75,000 miles from new (I have had it all this time).

Regardless of the costs and reliability, it is certainly no replacement (excitement wise) for my JDM Hawkeye.

dunx

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In 1976 fuel cost 88p a gallon, I earnt a £1 an hour.

Today a kid will earn £6 an hour and fuel is the same.

So in real terms it's cheap !

dunx

pslewis

True, but, given the fact that I was buying a new car in any case - it makes sense to consider fuel consumption.

Not to the point of buying a crappy car just to save money - but, to buy a car which comes as close to what you enjoy AND delivers amazing cost savings in the process.

I have done 4000 miles in the Honda - at a fuel cost of £390 - the Scooby would have cost, in fuel alone, £1090 .... saving me £700 in 7 months (I'm not a high mileage driver you can see).

The Road Tax is, annually, £150 cheaper .... Insurance is £150 cheaper .... add to an annual fuel saving of £1,750 (fuel is going up and I do more miles in Spring/Early Summer) and the Honda costs over £2,000 LESS to run than the Scooby.

Value of Scooby would have dropped by, what? £500 - the Honda will have lost £4500 in the same period.

So, by my calculations, the brand new Honda is £1950 more expensive in the first year than the Scooby (the first year is the worst year, so this is the very worst it could ever be) - therefore, for £162 a month I drive a new car, a better equiped car, a car which delivers fun and smiles per mile ... it also buys a car which needs no MOT's, will incur me in no repair bills for 3 years and should hold it's value very well.

The other option would have been a Scooby STi, new, at £27,000 ..... I don't even need to get my calculator out to show that would have been financial suicide - just the loss of £10,000 in 12 months is horrific .. as is the rapidly falling value in the years to come, paying £450 a year Road Tax would start to hurt on a car losing appeal faster than a ***** with herpes!!

Keeping an old car, that you have owned a long time, running is almost always cheaper -(unless something major goes wrong) .... but, sometimes, it's better to pay a little and get a lot in return - which, I believe, is exactly what I have done

pslewis

I say that a hundred Scoobies, with big loud exhausts, polluting engines, spoilers, wings and scoops driving at 5 MPH is very unlikely to get any sympathy whatsoever ... it's more likely to get you dragged out of your gas guzzlers and beaten senseless!!

Like it or not, people HATE Scooby drivers generally .... and certainly will not take too kindly to seeing tears from people who have such disregard for the future that they remove catalytic convertors and get re-maps which destroy our planet .... crying about the high cost of fuel whilst driving cars which return less than 20 mpg will win you absolutely no friends at all ....

Nah, what you need is a hundred 70 year olds in Honda Diesels driving at 5 MPH and crying that they cannot visit their dying spouse in the Hospice .... NOW, that WILL work!!!!

All you need do is to find such a group of people and pay them enough ......

Terminator X

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^^ The world will not be destroyed by CO2 & certainly not by car drivers in particular

TX.

PS

Diesel drivers can be found in concentrated nrs at old peoples homes.

WRXrowdy

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Mine was (yes I have owned a nearly new at the time turbodieselintercooled car and not just driven transits). It did go quite well and all the modern cars like vw tdi, ford tdci and peugeot hdi that I have driven do too, but they just don't have the grin factor that you get when you plant the throttle from a standing start in a subaru, or chucking it around a corner.
I am not averse to owning a diesel and as I stated earlier I will probably change my volvo for a diesel of some sort, but I couldn't bring myself to swap the Subaru for one.

pslewis

I can state, absolutely, that my Diesel gives me a bigger push in the back - much sooner, than my Scooby ever did .............. and that's when I grin!!

I grin again at the Scooby owner filling up with fuel and paying £450 a year Car Tax (as it means my smiles per miles can remain cheap!)

I grin once more as I hear my petrol station saying to me, "Mr Lewis, have you been away, we hardly see you these days!?" ................ wonderful feeling

WRXrowdy

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Are you sure you weren't sold a GX by mistake
Petrol attendants probably grinning at the doddering old codger wobbling along with his walking stick saying "here comes that tightarse Mr Lewis"

Oh and my car doesn't cost £450 a year to tax (yet )

pslewis

That's FUNNY!!

SpecDscooby

They dont cost £450 a year to tax, nothing does....they cost a very reasonable £435......so there

pslewis

You're right.

But the Tories will put that up to £750 within 2 years.

seraphSTI

My 2.5 STI Spec D is taxed for an even more reasonable £174 per year

I'd hazard a guess that this is cheaper than that Honda thingy...