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Old 12 January 2011, 03:16 PM
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This is nothing new, VOSA have been doing random checks for years, thing is they happen so infrequently that the chances of you getting stopped are practically nil. If you are stopped then unlucky but you can plead ignorance on a lot of stuff....

The engine number - they are correct, it's on the V5, change the engine and you have to send it off to the DVLA to inform them. I've done it before when I had to have a re-con engine in my sh*tty old Vauxhall many years ago.

The blue tint bulbs - chavvy though they are you can buy road legal ones: http://www.powerbulbs.com/product_detail.asp?prod=58 Assuming something similar to these they can **** off

Smoked indicators - it's a fair cop I guess.

HID kits - worst case you'll be asked to remove them and given an advisory to change them. Now you could just put normal bulbs back in, get it inspected and go back to using the HIDs. Chances of getting caught again are low but I guess if you did a second time you'll get the book thrown at you. Not exactly crime of the century though is it? Or don't take the risk and go back to using halogen bulbs.

As for emissions, hey it passed when you got your MoT, sorry officer thought it had been running a bit rough of late I'll get it checked out / was about to book it in to be looked at. Put the cats back, get it retested, and hey presto emissions fine Even if you got pulled again what's to say it's not another fault that's causing the problem.

Anyway upshot is don't panic folks....
Old 12 January 2011, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by joey_turbo
I'm surprised after all that, they didn't do the roadside emissions test.

So these advisories, when will they have to confirm the items have been changed?
Or don't they?
Not got to confirm it, just that it's on record, and should I get stopped again..............
Anyone want to buy some classic smoked front indicators?
Old 12 January 2011, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Terminator X
FPMSL, why were you so helpful?! Plead ignorance on every issue + you should have turned off / around when you saw them!

TX.
Too late, mate, I was in a traffic queue, in an ahead only lane, believe me, the thouight did occur to me, and not only because I was in a hurry.

But tbh, the best way to get away WITHOUT any problems is to co-operate, and be polite, at least until you know what's going on.
Old 12 January 2011, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by TurboAndy
you should be able to get way with running hids on main beam shouldnt you.
You can, and I did.
But the light pattern isn't great
Yeah - there's a load more light OK, but not necessarily where you want it.
Old 12 January 2011, 03:39 PM
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I run the Prodrive uk300 headlights on my bugeye sti. You cant see the bulb on the dip beam lens as its got a magnifyer type lens, again would I get away with this.
Old 12 January 2011, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyBurns
Hids are either factory fitted and for cars in the UK, have washers fitted, aftermarket hids without said washers will probably be done, you just have to read the vosa site to find that out
My mate has a UK Turbo 2000 with headlight washers and a aftermarket HID kit so where does he stand? I was told by my MOT tester that HID's require washers.
Old 12 January 2011, 03:51 PM
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I've got blue glassed halogens for my main beams in an effort to match the xenon whiteness...they're still yellow in comparison to the xenons so not sure where plod is coming from regarding a blue tint on the bulb, as CD said...they can f#ck off.
Old 12 January 2011, 03:57 PM
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i got stopped in wakefield the same a few yaers ago. Its generally vosa flexing thier muscles but its normally small scale as they dont have that much man power. very strict and unreasonable from my experience. i had a small slit in tyre not to cords, they said i couldnt drive off without changing my wheel. so i politley explained how the law stands as i was a tyre tech for kwik fit at the time and he backed down as he was wrong. Didnt like it though
Old 12 January 2011, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by scooby L
I've got blue glassed halogens for my main beams in an effort to match the xenon whiteness...they're still yellow in comparison to the xenons so not sure where plod is coming from regarding a blue tint on the bulb, as CD said...they can f#ck off.
Who mentioned blue tints?
The officer I spoke to mentioned a brightness and a different apparent colour to a halogen bulb, so asked me what was in it.

He DIDN'T check my answer, but took it on face value.

Not sure where that leaves us, but hey, I'm NOT telling anyone what to do, just what happened to me today and what was said.
Old 12 January 2011, 07:45 PM
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thansk for the heads up,

im just glad my hids are standard issue on my hawkeye lol,

even though they are self leveling my friend got stopped in perth by cops as they said she had flashed them,when she said it would be the lights leveling out ,they checked it over to make sure they were not aftermarket hids.

they told her that they are cracking down on illegal aftermarket parts(not "e" marked)
and this was last yr,
Old 12 January 2011, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Tomwrx
thansk for the heads up,

im just glad my hids are standard issue on my hawkeye lol,

even though they are self leveling my friend got stopped in perth by cops as they said she had flashed them,when she said it would be the lights leveling out ,they checked it over to make sure they were not aftermarket hids.

they told her that they are cracking down on illegal aftermarket parts(not "e" marked)
and this was last yr,
There do this with everything to try and scare people year's ago it was tint's then exhaust then this and that,
Old 12 January 2011, 09:12 PM
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Aye, but there HAVE been examples of people having to remove tints, and having loud exhausts condemned.

Just because HIDs are not involved YET, let's not get complacent. £100 odd for a kit is a lot if the cops make you remove it
Old 12 January 2011, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Aye, but there HAVE been examples of people having to remove tints, and having loud exhausts condemned.

Just because HIDs are not involved YET, let's not get complacent. £100 odd for a kit is a lot if the cops make you remove it
Sorry it didn't come across correctly, I meant a few years ago it was a massive crime to have tint's and everyone with tints was getting grief that died off then it was noise and so on
Old 12 January 2011, 09:23 PM
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I got pulled by VOSA last year, they said the Nur Spec was to loud and to take the car for a MOT to see if it passed, then when it does take the MOT to the local cop shop..... I got my Blitz from my MOT'er

They looked at my HID's and realized they were JDM closed units and not an aftermarket set

My number plates on my bonnet and they said that was fine, even though i get told on here that its illegal
Old 12 January 2011, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by P1#1015
They would save more lives / money if they spent as much time fixing the f*****g potholes in the roads. People swerving to avoid smashing their suspension in a huge hole is far more dangerous than a different set of headlights. Oh wait a minute, you can't fine a pothole though.....
Spot on dude..
Old 12 January 2011, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Anger
My number plates on my bonnet and they said that was fine, even though i get told on here that its illegal
I'll be in trouble then as no front plate

TX.
Old 12 January 2011, 09:36 PM
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alcazar, where abouts in scunny was this VOSA check point, ive seen them a few times near pitwood house and down near morrisons?
Old 12 January 2011, 10:01 PM
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just wondering then i gotta put a new bottom end in, will i have to notify dvla or not. If i was pulled for this check. So will i get away with it then

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Old 12 January 2011, 10:05 PM
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Only in this country could a decent bloke like you be turned into such a criminal !

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Old 12 January 2011, 10:05 PM
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Ive got a 2.5 in mine and i told the DVlA straight away, swapping for a 2.1 soon, so suppose it will have to change on the log book again
Old 12 January 2011, 10:13 PM
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I see one of your points was "illegal to show blue lights etc" actually its not illegal - I remember going down this thread when I had a Pajero - it is illegal to have flashing blue lights. There was loads of info about this and I cant remember the actual wording but it is something obscure like they dont actually say specifically that blue lights are illegal but doesnt say they are legal!!

The problem is try arguing taht with your average plod when he pulls you over
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Originally Posted by Ozzy_B
alcazar, where abouts in scunny was this VOSA check point, ive seen them a few times near pitwood house and down near morrisons?
Brigg Road, just after the Station Road/Dawes Lane lights, on the left in the carpark at the back of Lidl. (Netto?)

Saw it too late of would have turned left up Statio Road.
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The official line on replacement HID lamps is here: http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/drs/hidheadlamps which basically says "...must have headlamp cleaning and self-levelling which can be for the headlamp or can be in the vehicle suspension..."

"...it is not permitted to convert an existing halogen headlamp unit for use with HID bulbs. The entire headlamp unit must be replaced with one designed and approved for use with HID bulbs and it must be installed in accordance with the rules stated above."

GeoffT.

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Old 13 January 2011, 12:47 PM
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Can they catch up with the recently purchased WRX that ruins my last half hour of sleep every morning...

Originally Posted by P1#1015
They would save more lives / money if they spent as much time fixing the f*****g potholes in the roads. People swerving to avoid smashing their suspension in a huge hole is far more dangerous than a different set of headlights. Oh wait a minute, you can't fine a pothole though.....
+1. Especially true when the only MOT advisory you get is a pot hole damaged tyre.
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So, really, what we are all saying is it's better and easier to leave the car well alone and use it as it was intended?

Not only do Mods make the car unsaleable, chavvie and an attraction to the Police - it also means you get into trouble with VOSA and legitimate MOT testing stations.
Old 13 January 2011, 12:54 PM
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pants the blue bulb thing is hourse crap, he can't do you cus what colour do they show when switched on...........white they know this as do i cus my uncle is a traffic cop, they play on the fact that we the public don't know the exact law on car mods, out of all u have put the only thing that is bang on is the insuerance part, also if ur car is an import i am pretty sure e-marked lens are not requiered cus the country of origin does not require them, as for the hid's there not illegal and why you they be removed did he say or is it they just seem a little brighter than others, what about audi's hid kit that shines blue at an angle, cops nothing better to do, i followed 1 yesterday with a brake light out and only half the eye level light working,
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I got arrested because i refused to remove the tinted windows i had at front. The officer actually wanted me to remove them with a blade he gave me
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hahahaha that happend to me also, although i was taking the pi$$ the light transmition was 2.7 hahahahaha 100% darker than limo, he said i need to remove them and get car re-mot'd which i did but found out that the side glass is not part of the mot and is not tested so they can whistle dixxi next time
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Most of them just chat pure Sht
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Originally Posted by Anger
My number plates on my bonnet and they said that was fine, even though i get told on here that its illegal
Been telling people that for years James, my stick on plate has been on the car since 2008 and I've never been tugged


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