s70rjw

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Organised car thieves tend to be older and use younger apprentices to steal the cars. If your car was stolen, I take it you would be happy if the Police did not stop cars whose drivers fitted the profile of persons intelligence suggested were stealing those cars?
Believe it or not, some stolen cars are identified before they are reported stolen due to stop checks.
Or would you rather complain that the Police do nothing when you report your car stolen?

KAOS_JNR

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I used to deliver fleet cars and used to drive loads all over uk one mornin about 6am near Preston on the m6 I was pressing a car at double the national speed limit I missed a cop car getting on not noticin I eased off and next thing I've got a set of blues behind I pull over thinkin that's it licence gone and job I sat in the back of the police car ****ting myself copper gave me a real due bollocking and then said I can't fault ur driving which was textbook apart from speed at which point he said get on ur way a slow the **** down I'm now in shock but very grateful the police often get a bad rep but I'm one luck git the key to any interaction with be submissive and agree in all truth they are here to enforce the law

glosrob

cheers to the people who understand. cheers to the idiot pigs and cheers to all the pig lovers on here.... many many many thanks

pigSTi

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That's ok mate no worries

pigSTi

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The moment you see the blue flashies, tell your self it's Robocop in the car and make like it is when you wind your window down.

I got pulled a few weeks back for driving at night with no lights on, the cop was ace and let me off after he had a good nosey round my car. I still shat my pants though tbh. Robocop could have kicked my **** if he had been angry at me.

Rob Day

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Unfortunatly your wrong........ "Corroboration"

Apologies for not reading the whole thread, but im always polite when pulled over, and (touch wood) I havent been handed points now for 5 1/2 years

Rob

s70rjw

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To the OP
You've have some advice from grown ups now on how to approach being stopped for speeding. This could possibly save you from more points and more cash in the future.

Tomwrx

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sorry rob but i know your wrong,

i was stopped for speeding a few yrs ago before i bought the scoob may i add, i was doing 55 in a 30 mph,was stopped by the local police and read the riot act,told me i was speeding etc and would be goin to court,
went to court and the judge kicked it out as the was no evidence or proof as there was no independant witness my word against theres,thats why traffic cars have cameras in them.

richie001

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I take it from your username your from Gloucestershire.I've been stopped a couple of times for minor things and i was extremely polite but their attitude towards me was very rude,So being polite doesn't always work.

I was on the way home from work and it was late at night and got stopped.The female officer was friendly and explained why i was stopped but the male officer was a complete *******,He rude and slightly aggressive.

TurboAndy

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I was pulled over years ago when I had my Astra GTE16V at stupid 0' clock in the morning for doing well over the speed limit going over Shap on the M6, Im sure the copper pulled out of the service station a mile or so back, when he pulled me over he asked why do I think they pulled me over of which my reply was "going a tad fast". He then asked me to come sit in the cop car where he read me the riot act, more so because of my car and what they handle like at fast speeds and the area I was driving in, i.e. if you go off the motorway you disappear out of sight in that area so I might not of been seen till daylight if there were no marking on the road. He was at a RTA a few years back where a young lad had lost control of a GTE on the A595 in cumbria and said there was nothing left of the car and all 4 people were killed. I felt awful when he told me this and really put the wind up me. I said I was so sorry for speeding and after what he said it will defo make me think twice. He then said what do I think he should do with me of which my reply was "well I wont deny I was speeding so I guess points and a fine" I gave him no lip and just said yes sir no sir. In the end he let me off with a telling off as he could see it made me think when he said about the accident of the other GTE.

Bottom line is my licence has cost me a lot of money as ive taken many tests for different classes and I wouldn't want to loose it and go thought even tougher tests, so if I do get pulled im as polite to the officers as possible, politeness costs nothing and just might help me. I wouldn't want there job, yes you all say about all they do is cruse about in Volvos, BMW's etc but Im sure as hell I wouldn't want to be picking up body parts etc at RTA that they do.

RS TURBO

next time ..foot down and dont look back=problem solved

GH80

Back in my youth I used to do alot of silly things, not proud of it now but I think your attitude is important if you are stopped.

I remember one saturday night I was out with a few friends for a "roundabout run" and found myself doing well over 120 on a ring road, going into roundabouts at 70+ in a clio 16v. Unfortunately I got spotted by the cops who were going the opposite direction.

I didnt see them, and continued on the run, but after I had my fill I peeled off and got stopped by some traffic lights. I could smell burning from the front, so got out of the car to see what was up. Front discs were practically melting LOL. The lights turned green, so got back in the car and decided to take it easy going home.

On the way back home (about 3-4 minutes up the road) my stomach sank as all I could see behind me was blues and twos. Cops overtook me, and he popped the handbrake and blocked the road in front of me. I thought I was done, big time.

I knew I was ****ed, so I admitted everything to the cop. Answered everything he asked, in a respectful way. He decided to let me off with a severe bollocking (and told me to report to the cop shop for another bollocking), but no points, fines or court case.

You need to treat these guys with respect, most of them will be grateful and may show you a bit of leniency. You can't really bluff it either, but if you are going to break the law you should be ready to take the consequences. A bit of respect goes a long way.

The Rig

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Thing is,as a side line, What is the difference between a police officer and the general law abiding joe public, apart from the badge/authority to act dis-honest when it suits them ?

i respect the law,but not the people who are sworn to up-hold it,as in most cases,if it were them or someone they knew who acted unlawfully,would turn a blind eye.

i often wonder,nowadays,if the police officers are any different to sheriffs back in the wild west days who just fitted the description at the time

paulwrxboro

dosent always work , i kissed butt a few months back and still got the points..misrable ba5tard

andythejock01wrx

Maybe you didn't go far enough for him.

Seriously, always worth a try!

TurboAndy

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What you have to ask your self is at the end of the day what did you loose by doing that.

lordharding

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At the end of the day you were doing 45 in a 30 which the police take a lot more seriously then 85 on a motorway
I think it is a six pointer when it gets to court and because of your attitude to them that has Defently not helped
If you had been polite and grovelled ,as you were committing an offence you might have got away with it as normally night time jobs is stolen cars and drunks not speeding but your attitude which you have shown on this forum has not helped you

I suggest you get a smart suit and tie for court and practice your grovelling to the magistrate as they know they job,like the police and will not take any atitude from you like you have shown on this forum to respected posters


Good entertainment

It could be a ten pager now

Beastra

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I got pulled over the day before new years eve. Officer asked me loads of questions before telling me they had a report of a white impreza doing excess speed through a housing estate. As I had just left work and new I had not gone through any housing estates, just kept my cool and let him do his job.

Whilst this was going on, another officer was chatting to me about my car as he was looking to buy one.

My description did not match what had been reported so was let on my way. Now if I had given attitude I'm sure this would be a different story.

SpecDscooby

How about your dignity??......Why would you want to allow someone to have an attitude towards you....crazy to me, sit in a car and be patronised. The very fact that "some people get off" is the issue. Police are LAW ENFORCEMENT, if they know your guilty and let you go free, are they not guilty of not doing what our taxes pay for??....interesting??!!

If EVERYONE who ever got stopped for speeding got a ticket instantly and no one was ever "let off" do you think it would be a safer place?..maybe?

In my minds eye the Police have no more right to let off someone who is guilty of a crime, than i do to tell the Police "I DO NOT ACCEPT YOUR LAWS AS I NEVER SIGNED ANYTHING TO SAY I DID".....Fuuny world ah!..

Still i'm in the freemasons so i can do whatever the fek i like, and a hand shake gets me off....sounds fair to all>!

TonyBurns

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Let me see..... you break the law knowingly then dont expect to be shouted at, then give them grief back...... errrrrrrm what planet are you on?

As for the coppers letting you off, its called "discression", they have the right to either fine you or talk to you to "explain" where you went wrong, its now their discression to see if a fine is applied, though in some situations it will be compulsary due to the speed, in others it will be the fact that a good talking to will suffice.

Of course if you dont agree you could always just take the points and fine?

Tony

f1_fan

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You're welcome, hope you get banned

SpecDscooby

You can come accross very condescending, anyone ever told you that?

Tony

You miss the point i think, i dont want discression. You say to me "break the law and dont expect to be shouted at" .... No i dont!....if i break the law i expect the punishment that befits the crime. Also dont ask me "what plant am i on", i'm not a child or punk, so i can only answer Earth; and at no point have i been rude to anyone, or any group on here.

Tell ya what why dont we start letting rapists off with a talking to, perhaps we shout at them...Where is the line when one police officer says fine and points, and the next says ok, since your "polite" ill let you off.

For me they have a job to do; a very hard one, but EVERTHING within that role has a clear process, and thats all i ask, follow process to the letter. Then everyone who ever commits a traffic violation can think "here is a nice polite Police officer, no point in being an **** to him, since he has no choice at all but to give me a ticket, as i broke the LAW.

TonyBurns

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So you would send a kid who picks a few daffodils out of the park to prison for theft??

Correct, so if a stern talking to befits that crime as an incentive not to do it again, would you accept it and keep your mouth shut or give them grief back??

Well if your old enough to see that there is "flexibility" in the law for certain "crimes", I would not have to point out which planet it is your on

Now your being a complete dick

"They" have no choice (your discriminating against female police officers there ) and yes its a hard job, but no one is perfect so the law has some flexibility for different crimes, be it sentences for more serious crimes or just a good talking to for lesser crimes, if you cannot see that then wow, take the max.....

Tony

gazzawrx

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i appreciate if a police officer is doing their job but some of them are morons who are power happy, even more so the new younger ones, it's like they all have a point to prove at the station of whos got the biggest *****.

I've been pulled in the past and had older more experienced officers who have been sound and i've actually had a laugh with, then there's other times when i've been pulled by coppers who are young/younger than me and they think they can talk to me how they choose.

I'm never really been bothered about uniform or of authority position in that sense and i generally tell them to wind their neck in when they talk to me out of turn, however not all officers are ar5eholes and that judgement should be made by yourself when you first speak to them.

The up and coming PCSO's are all the same too, it's like to be a police officer now you need a cocky, arrogant, power happy, attitude to suceed, maybe thats due to the way they've been treated in the past by people they've dealt with, but they shouldn't be tarnishing everyone with the same brush.

However when i'm pulled i'm always polite and curteous, but if the coppers speak to me like i'm sh1te then i'm more than willing to give it them back and if that means getting nicked again **** it.

scud8

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It's actually called "discretion", but the rest of your point is okay.

SpecDscooby

[quote=TonyBurns;9823947]So you would send a kid who picks a few daffodils out of the park to prison for theft??


Is that a crime?..comes under the daffodil act of 1971 does it>?

Correct, so if a stern talking to befits that crime as an incentive not to do it again, would you accept it and keep your mouth shut or give them grief back??

Am not out to make anyone job/ life harder. How can speeding be justified with a talking too, as long as no one gets killed this time, we'll let you off? Speed limits are in place to make the roads safer, the road will have been assessed time and time again by dozens of people, who are specialists in this field, back with hundreds of statistics for the correct speed limit, thousands of pounds spent on signage; but we think it is ok for some bobby to "make his own rules" within the law, becuase the speeder was "polite"....seems odd to me?



Now your being a complete dick

Cant be bothered with his one...what a shame, but gives me a level to aim for though, just a lot lower than i had anticipated.

"They" have no choice (your discriminating against female police officers there ) and yes its a hard job, but no one is perfect so the law has some flexibility for different crimes, be it sentences for more serious crimes or just a good talking to for lesser crimes, if you cannot see that then wow, take the max.....

The LAW has NO FLEXIBILITY at all..LOL! Individuals who uphold the law should not be allowed to alter it, since "he was polite". The LAW does'nt get altered becuase we were feeling "flexible", if your caught and found guilty, by a JURY your at fault, nothing more to it.

The reason people get disillusioned with Police officers is because they fear what might be coming their way. If they knew EXACTLY what was coming their way, were is the fear?....If your caught breaking a law, expect punishment

SpecDscooby

Agreed, perhaps the Police are power happy (in some cases) becuase there are people who think it is fine for them to alter LAWS, some of which have been in place since horse and carts (highways). But hey dont worry, it is ok for a newly trained Police officer on his first day on the job to alter a hundred year old law, because you were "polite"

Aaron1978

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Are you 100% sure on this?

SpecDscooby

Here is part of a definition for the word LAW:


" a commandment or a revelation from god. "


LOL, the police can change those too

Rob Day

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Hmm almost double the speed limit

Ok it sounds like you had an exception to the rule, and lets not forget no matter what the outcome of the Police, if you do get taken to court then there is always the discretion of the Judge.

One police officer cannot (without external witnesses) proof that you were speeding, thus if he does give you a ticket then you must fight it, and more often than not for minor offences, it ends up not going to court.

Most people know there is some leeway in regards to what you can get away with, and there is no wrotten rule, however although I do not condone speeding you can usually work to 10% above the speed limit plus 1mph max!! So 34 in a 30, 45 in a 40, 56 in a 50, 77 in a 70, and 130 on the 1/4mile

• The 10% is for possible speedo callobration error
• The 1mph is for the handheld laser device no being static (ie the office moving his arm whilst pointing the Laser gun)

If I can recommend a book to anyone with regards to everything that has been talked about above and beyond please send me a PM. I have done several 'Driver Awerness' causes via my work, and each time its an eye opener .

Rob