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28 January 2011, 08:33 PM
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Looks like we're waiting on the Army now. Decisions, decisions. How do you think it'll pan out?
28 January 2011, 10:35 PM
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Let me enlighten you...
Cheesecake?
Garlic bread?
'Ave it!
I'm not homophobic. I'm not scared of my house.
Put big light on.
You wanna gerron t'internet
Where you going on your holdays? T'Egypt.
©Peter Kay.
Cheesecake?
Garlic bread?
'Ave it!
I'm not homophobic. I'm not scared of my house.
Put big light on.
You wanna gerron t'internet
Where you going on your holdays? T'Egypt.
©Peter Kay.
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28 January 2011, 10:56 PM
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28 January 2011, 11:10 PM
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Well, I never said I wasn't behind it, just pointing out that politicians are doing what politicians do. Looking out for themselves. In this case the US, been pouring money into Egypt for decades but now are looking to back the "other" horse as it looks like it's preferred mount is falling at the last! When were the US calling for reform before today and what have they been doing about it? Giving them 100s of millions of dollars a year with no strings ain't gonna do it .....
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Crude oil's jumped 5%!
FWIW one really doesn't know what way this will swing. If there's a real grass roots, sustainable democratic revolution it could be the start of a brighter future, but, it could swing the wrong way. The implications are massive! I'm excited and concerned in equal measure. The Muslim Brotherhood have broken their silence.
29 January 2011, 09:41 AM
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FWIW one really doesn't know what way this will swing. If there's a real grass roots, sustainable democratic revolution it could be the start of a brighter future, but, it could swing the wrong way. The implications are massive! I'm excited and concerned in equal measure. The Muslim Brotherhood have broken their silence.
Egypt, is not just Muslims, its Christians, Copts, & Muslims, who as has been said before, all live quite happily together.
What they ALL collectively don't like, is the current ruling party.
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29 January 2011, 10:40 AM
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And then you turn the thread around??? , with a provocative comment like that!
Egypt, is not just Muslims, its Christians, Copts, & Muslims, who as has been said before, all live quite happily together.
What they ALL collectively don't like, is the current ruling party.
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Egypt, is not just Muslims, its Christians, Copts, & Muslims, who as has been said before, all live quite happily together.
What they ALL collectively don't like, is the current ruling party.
Mart
Unfortunately JTaylor is 100% bias in these type of discussions so his point(s) are sadly somewhat pointless, which is a shame.
29 January 2011, 02:41 PM
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And then you turn the thread around??? , with a provocative comment like that!
Egypt, is not just Muslims, its Christians, Copts, & Muslims, who as has been said before, all live quite happily together.
What they ALL collectively don't like, is the current ruling party.
Mart
Egypt, is not just Muslims, its Christians, Copts, & Muslims, who as has been said before, all live quite happily together.
What they ALL collectively don't like, is the current ruling party.
Mart
29 January 2011, 03:26 PM
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according to the data information iv'e been reading, the MB, are not the main opposition party.
There are 9 main left wing parties
There are 3 right wing parties
And there are 12 liberal parties
MB is one of 6 other groups. whose political allegiance is disputed.
They are also banned in Egypt, so how they can be the main opposition party is bemusing.
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29 January 2011, 03:58 PM
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12313405
I'd google sectarian; violence and Egypt, too. All that aside, I'm right behind a secular and democratic and popular uprising where the Copts and people of the I****** faith can live peacefully. At the moment this is a nationalist uprising and one hopes that, should it be successful, the power vacuum is filled by an administration concerned with freedom of expression and conscience.
I'd google sectarian; violence and Egypt, too. All that aside, I'm right behind a secular and democratic and popular uprising where the Copts and people of the I****** faith can live peacefully. At the moment this is a nationalist uprising and one hopes that, should it be successful, the power vacuum is filled by an administration concerned with freedom of expression and conscience.
29 January 2011, 04:24 PM
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12313405
I'd google sectarian; violence and Egypt, too. All that aside, I'm right behind a secular and democratic and popular uprising where the Copts and people of the I****** faith can live peacefully. At the moment this is a nationalist uprising and one hopes that, should it be successful, the power vacuum is filled by an administration concerned with freedom of expression and conscience.
I'd google sectarian; violence and Egypt, too. All that aside, I'm right behind a secular and democratic and popular uprising where the Copts and people of the I****** faith can live peacefully. At the moment this is a nationalist uprising and one hopes that, should it be successful, the power vacuum is filled by an administration concerned with freedom of expression and conscience.
29 January 2011, 06:22 PM
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I just hope the Egyptian people are able to usher in a leadership who's concerned with freedom and progression. There are clearly real concerns about what comes next.
29 January 2011, 06:46 PM
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There are people dieing on the streets of Egypt, fellas, and the future of the entire region is at stake. I'd ask you to consider that, please.
29 January 2011, 11:37 PM
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Widespread looting and gangs roaming the streets. Vigilante groups forming, a complete breakdown in law and order. The security forces are absent. This is either a breakdown of the state or a very smart move by Mubarak. If the non-activists feel unsafe, they may welcome (indeed be desperate for) a return to order and stability which, of course, the Mubarak regime will be happy to provide.
Anti-American graffiti popping up, which will play in to the hands of the M***** Brotherhood. The Americans have to be seen to not interfere with the uprising in order to give a democratic revolution its best possible chance. Equally, they have be seen to be supporting the people whilst not allienating Mubarak incase the revolt proves unsuccessful.
Europe seem to be saying to Mubarak, "go quietly", America seem non-committal. This is a shift from yesterday where the West had a party line. Some power play between America and Europe, maybe?
The next 48hrs will be very interesting.
Anti-American graffiti popping up, which will play in to the hands of the M***** Brotherhood. The Americans have to be seen to not interfere with the uprising in order to give a democratic revolution its best possible chance. Equally, they have be seen to be supporting the people whilst not allienating Mubarak incase the revolt proves unsuccessful.
Europe seem to be saying to Mubarak, "go quietly", America seem non-committal. This is a shift from yesterday where the West had a party line. Some power play between America and Europe, maybe?
The next 48hrs will be very interesting.
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30 January 2011, 12:16 AM
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Ok, Geoff. If you wish to discuss whatever issue you have with me publicly, that's cool. I'd suggest we begin tomorrow when you're sober. Please feel free to start a thread in the appropriate forum. May I suggest Puppets. Sorry, Muppets. 
30 January 2011, 12:19 AM
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My name's not Geoff, and I'm tired of you.
30 January 2011, 12:22 AM
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30 January 2011, 07:57 AM
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Things have taken a turn for the worse, but perversely they have shown just how Egyptians have stuck together.
There is looting going on in some areas, and many of the protesters have returned home to protect there property, and government buildings / banks etc. Is someone or some group orchestrating unrest?
The press are calling them vigilantes, now
This is the worrying part, as this is potentially where the real instigators of the protests reveal themselves.
If as many suspect it is the MB, then its going to be a very rocky road. MB is very anti of the west, and against westernisation (sp).
Given that Egypt relies very heavily on tourism, and many Egyptians, are used to a very liberal lifestyle, to then have a group, try to remove that, could cause huge divisions, and potentially make the situation a lot worse.
mart
There is looting going on in some areas, and many of the protesters have returned home to protect there property, and government buildings / banks etc. Is someone or some group orchestrating unrest?
The press are calling them vigilantes, now
This is the worrying part, as this is potentially where the real instigators of the protests reveal themselves.
If as many suspect it is the MB, then its going to be a very rocky road. MB is very anti of the west, and against westernisation (sp).
Given that Egypt relies very heavily on tourism, and many Egyptians, are used to a very liberal lifestyle, to then have a group, try to remove that, could cause huge divisions, and potentially make the situation a lot worse.
mart