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Old 31 January 2011 | 11:16 PM
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yea but they run like absolute crap!.. thats why it says super unleaded only on the filler cap.
my 98 says super unleaded only too ???? i use 97 after what david@api commented on about using 95 even in a uk
Old 31 January 2011 | 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
No it doesn't!
well it says 'unleaded super gasoline only' on my petrol flap.
i used normal petrol in mine once and it was really sluggish. never used it since.
Old 31 January 2011 | 11:41 PM
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I got it on 75k and Mine is on 104k now and still drives lovely. Slightly modded, only issues I've had were fuel pump and immobiliser. 18 months ownership so far.
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Turbo 2000's (UK cars) run on standard 95
We'll OK - they'll run on it, albeit not as well as on SUL.

However, I'm pretty the 2 that I owned had super unleaded stickers on the fuel flap.
Old 01 February 2011 | 10:20 AM
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I bought those WRC ltd ed blue seude seats for my first impreza and the guy that came to pick up my old seats came in his MY00. He'd had it from new and it had 180K on the clock - I was stunned as it looked in perfect health. He also said it was on the original clutch to which his wife backed him up.

I would love another classic but I also love my Jeep and don't want to sell it - its running costs are equal if not more than a classic. I would like to keep both and alternate them every 6 months but my garage isn't connected to the house so can't be heated. I've had my old MK3 golf in there since March and it looks a sorry state. Don't think I could keep them fresh in there for 6 months.
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my98 still plodding along at 122000 , changed maf , oil ,plugs and a couple of rocker gaskets and a crank seal ,thats it
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Whats it say in the inside of your petrol flap?
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MY97 uk car ran 95ron for 50,000 miles no problems. In fact I tried several tankfuls of super (and an ecu reset) and found no difference in performance or economy, or even smoothness.

Now runs super unleaded since fitting Prodrive ecu and associated parts (and Tesco moved into town). At 160,000 miles it is still a good runner if a bit rattly on cold mornings. Had to have gearbox overhauled 2 years ago.

Wife's car is laid up at the mo, will get round to building her a new engine sometime....






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Old 01 February 2011 | 05:56 PM
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My UK 2000 had covered 135k when I eventually pulled the engine out for a rebuild.
It was done because I was in an ideal financial position to rebuild it - not because it needed it.
All of the bearing surfaces on the crank and rods were all in mint condition. The piston skirts and crowns were also tip top. Even the bores still had lots of cross hatching in them. You'd never have guessed that the engine had covered the mileage on the dashboard.
It had suffered a typical Subaru life too, although regular servicing had been religiously maintained.
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Originally Posted by urban
Whats it say in the inside of your petrol flap?
It says unleaded super gasoline only.

However that is not super unleaded. The clue is in the word gasoline.

Across Europe petrol is supplied generally in two/three flavours

Unleaded regular gasoline 92 RON
Unleaded super gasoline 95 RON
Unleaded super gasoline 98/99 RON

All UK Turbo 2000s are set up to run on unleaded super 95 and can of course therefore run on 98/99.

The handbook clearly states that the fuel required is unleaded 95 RON (or better).

End of story!
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you carry on putting that sh*t in then.
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Originally Posted by firebug
you carry on putting that sh*t in then.



So F1 - when you you going to giveup this futile defence
Old 02 February 2011 | 12:33 PM
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I'm always quite surprised at the amount of people running 95ron fuel on high power turbo cars.
When we've got peoples motors on the dyno, it's not uncommon to hear the occasional tinkling of DET. At that point its normally down to the fuel.

The most common excuse is that its too expensive to fill it with the good stuff. In my opinion, if you cant afford the extra £2-£3 per tank, you've bought the wrong car!

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Originally Posted by urban



So F1 - when you you going to giveup this futile defence
Futile defnce of what?
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Originally Posted by Jenkins
I'm always quite surprised at the amount of people running 95ron fuel on high power turbo cars.
When we've got peoples motors on the dyno, it's not uncommon to hear the occasional tinkling of DET. At that point its normally down to the fuel.

The most common excuse is that its too expensive to fill it with the good stuff. In my opinion, if you cant afford the extra £2-£3 per tank, you've bought the wrong car!

Hang on a second here. Subaru manufacture the car and they state 95RON is the right fuel for a (unmolested) Turbo 2000. Should they not know better than anyone?

My current car is mapped so I only use 98/99, but the previous two Turbo 2000s I ran exclusively on 95RON with no issues and one had mega mileage on when I sold it and was still fine.

Completely agree as regards imports etc. and newer models maybe (I don't know what the requirements are for newage UK cars etc.), but the UK dealer supplied Turbo 2000 was always intended to run with 95.
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Futile defnce of what?
Unleaded super gasoline RON
Old 02 February 2011 | 12:49 PM
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Sorry - i short have made myself more clear.
I was referring to heavily modified cars, tuned and altered in order to gain maximum power.
A standard vehicle should have no issues at all running on 95ron.
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Originally Posted by Jenkins
Sorry - i short have made myself more clear.
I was referring to heavily modified cars, tuned and altered in order to gain maximum power.
A standard vehicle should have no issues at all running on 95ron.
No worries. Yes I agree, seems pointless tuning them and thne throwing in the less expensive stuff.
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Originally Posted by urban
Unleaded super gasoline RON
Here you go:

Originally Posted by EU
The EN 228 standard is the European specification for premium unleaded petrol (called Euro Super) which has an octane number of 95 and must be available in all European Union countries
Now kindly f**k off and annoy someone else!!!
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Here you go:



Now kindly f**k off and annoy someone else!!!
How rude!

"EuroSuper" or "EuroPremium" or "Regular unleaded" in Europe
That is defined as 95 RON
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Originally Posted by urban

"EuroSuper" or "EuroPremium" or "Regular unleaded" in Europe

That is defined as 95 RON
Er... exactly the point I was making!!! Thanks!

i.e. unleaded super (on the flap) is not the same as what we in the UK (and the UK only) call super unleaded!

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Originally Posted by Jamz3k
Thanks guys, looks like subaru ownership could defo be on the cars if my current car gets written off.
The important thing is to get a car that has been looked after, serviced regularly, used but not abused!
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