Anyone taught themself to map a car?
03 February 2011 | 11:27 AM
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I personally don't think it's so much 'Knowledge' rather 'experience' 
So how do you get experience? by mapping cars, what happens if you don't know what you're doing.........
It's an almost circular argument to me. I think most of the top guys will have a good solid background in tuning, the sort tuning people did before 'mapping' came to the fore. They then understand exactly what the mechanical ramifications are of making an electrical adjustment are.
So how do you get experience? by mapping cars, what happens if you don't know what you're doing.........It's an almost circular argument to me. I think most of the top guys will have a good solid background in tuning, the sort tuning people did before 'mapping' came to the fore. They then understand exactly what the mechanical ramifications are of making an electrical adjustment are.
03 February 2011 | 11:31 AM
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I contacted ecutek about their software as I was interested in it for doing my own car. Firstly they won't sell to anybody. You have to prove to them you have experience mapping, or go on a course they recommend. Thy also ask about premises, rolling roads etc. Believe me anybody who has ecutek software has gone through some pain to get it. All that aside you could have the software and still not have a clue what your doing. Experience is the key and without doing it you can't get that. Hence the courses on mapping. At least they give you a good idea on what you need to know before attempting it. I advise stick with known mappers such as Duncan from RaceDynamix. He knows his stuff and did another top job for me yesterday.
LOL, i can definatley see what your saying, they are treated like gods too
, and your right, change a CD = get a re map. As i said though i really bet its easy; when you know how.
One would assume ECUTEK for example would charge someone a large amount of money for the software to be able to map, perhaps accompanied by a course of some sort, then that would be it, you have a franchised mapping business...of you go....mappers get great reputations by their own learnings i'm sure....you never (rarely) here of anyone doing a "cheapy" map for mates rates;....suks a bit...; for me who wants a cheapy remap
, and your right, change a CD = get a re map. As i said though i really bet its easy; when you know how. One would assume ECUTEK for example would charge someone a large amount of money for the software to be able to map, perhaps accompanied by a course of some sort, then that would be it, you have a franchised mapping business...of you go....mappers get great reputations by their own learnings i'm sure....you never (rarely) here of anyone doing a "cheapy" map for mates rates;....suks a bit...; for me who wants a cheapy remap
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03 February 2011 | 11:33 AM
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I personally don't think it's so much 'Knowledge' rather 'experience' So how do you get experience? by mapping cars, what happens if you don't know what you're doing.........
It's an almost circular argument to me. I think most of the top guys will have a good solid background in tuning, the sort tuning people did before 'mapping' came to the fore. They then understand exactly what the mechanical ramifications are of making an electrical adjustment are.
So how do you get experience? by mapping cars, what happens if you don't know what you're doing.........It's an almost circular argument to me. I think most of the top guys will have a good solid background in tuning, the sort tuning people did before 'mapping' came to the fore. They then understand exactly what the mechanical ramifications are of making an electrical adjustment are.
That is absolutley the reason in a nut shell for going to a known mapper ... "experience". Well put.
Still not rocket science though
03 February 2011 | 12:12 PM
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03 February 2011 | 06:07 PM
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Not quite, Martyn is the mapper, but we build engines as well, we can't lose!
Hey, go for it. I have no issue with anybody who feels like working on their own car, it's their choice. Unfortunately, there are a few who have a go at other people's as well, and charge for the privilege, despite having little clue.
Hey, go for it. I have no issue with anybody who feels like working on their own car, it's their choice. Unfortunately, there are a few who have a go at other people's as well, and charge for the privilege, despite having little clue.
Had that experience with fitters as well
03 February 2011 | 07:31 PM
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It was my own mapping really.
TBH I downloaded a relativley safe map that suited my mod's (sti injectors, vf34 etc) and it took it to just under 300bhp. It ran well too.
My trouble was that I got a bit greedy and wanted more power, and a map would obviously give you that, with the same mods.........for about 30ish seconds.
If I'm honest I didn't really know what I was doing, all i knew how to do was flash a 300,400,500bhp map to my ecu, which you could find anywhere on the internet if you looked. I wouldn't really recommend it.
TBH I downloaded a relativley safe map that suited my mod's (sti injectors, vf34 etc) and it took it to just under 300bhp. It ran well too.
My trouble was that I got a bit greedy and wanted more power, and a map would obviously give you that, with the same mods.........for about 30ish seconds.
If I'm honest I didn't really know what I was doing, all i knew how to do was flash a 300,400,500bhp map to my ecu, which you could find anywhere on the internet if you looked. I wouldn't really recommend it.
Last edited by al02uk; 03 February 2011 at 07:35 PM.
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