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23 February 2011, 08:29 PM
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23 February 2011, 09:09 PM
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Steve you been on the beer again! 
You tell me what this part or parts are and I will tell you. I know exactly what went in to my engine build(s).
You tell me what this part or parts are and I will tell you. I know exactly what went in to my engine build(s).
23 February 2011, 09:11 PM
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and 129 mph terminals? Are you sure you don't have more than 500 ponies
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23 February 2011, 09:30 PM
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23 February 2011, 09:40 PM
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Steve - are you really that pissed! 
Which part of your previous statement (I have included so you don't have to search too much) includes the words you just decided to quote!
So... not only can you not remember what you previously typed, you are also inferring that any build that does not use their parts, means it is not "quality"!
You want a hand digging the hole?
People don't realise that when they go for big power no matter which way you go you HAVE to use RCM parts in the build
So... not only can you not remember what you previously typed, you are also inferring that any build that does not use their parts, means it is not "quality"!
You want a hand digging the hole?
23 February 2011, 09:41 PM
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Their parts a mega tasty but just too rich for my blood. 1500 for a set of adjustable pulleys. I know if money was no option I would have them but............... Their prices always seem to strike me as just a wee bit obscene. Just me, my opinion, others will be prepared to pay it though.
23 February 2011, 09:47 PM
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Their parts a mega tasty but just too rich for my blood. 1500 for a set of adjustable pulleys. I know if money was no option I would have them but............... Their prices always seem to strike me as just a wee bit obscene. Just me, my opinion, others will be prepared to pay it though.
I put the RCM verniers on mine, I know its more cash but if they fail its your engine fecked! Have you ever heard of RCM verniers fail? I have heard of virtually every other make failing.
23 February 2011, 09:58 PM
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I know it makes sense if you have invested 5 figures in the rest of your engine but jesus Steve surely there are verniers at half the price that would be equally as good as the rcm ones? I don't know but I trust my mechanic to choose parts that are going to be up to what I want to achieve
23 February 2011, 10:15 PM
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What direct experience do you have with RCM that puts you in a position you can slag them off? I know you're a scoobyclinic fan so praising them is cool but can you honestly say you've had the negative experience from RCM that warrants your comments?
As for more success you've got to be kidding right?
Take your blinkers off and take a proper close look at the stuff they turn out. It's flawless.
Gobstopper aside which really is a work of art go have a look at an RCM built car and compare that to something that A.N Other tuning company has built. I guarantee that nothing will be out of place and it will all be incredibly tidy.
I know I may seem to come across as a it of an RCM fan boy but I've dealt with a good few tuners and some of which are big names on here and RCM have never once got it wrong for me. I cant say that about some of the others ive dealt with.
Admittedly the prices on some items are ridiculously expensive but you just know that their products are tried and tested and their workmanship is second to none.
If I didn't enjoy doing my own builds so much and I had the money I'd have them do my work above all of the of the others.
As for more success you've got to be kidding right?
Take your blinkers off and take a proper close look at the stuff they turn out. It's flawless.
Gobstopper aside which really is a work of art go have a look at an RCM built car and compare that to something that A.N Other tuning company has built. I guarantee that nothing will be out of place and it will all be incredibly tidy.
I know I may seem to come across as a it of an RCM fan boy but I've dealt with a good few tuners and some of which are big names on here and RCM have never once got it wrong for me. I cant say that about some of the others ive dealt with.
Admittedly the prices on some items are ridiculously expensive but you just know that their products are tried and tested and their workmanship is second to none.
If I didn't enjoy doing my own builds so much and I had the money I'd have them do my work above all of the of the others.
you have found out yourself that some parts they sell are in fact rebrands, your turbo for example. you thoguht you were buying one thing,t hen found out it was actualy something else. but thats by the by.
the whole thread isn't about slagging anyone off, its been about the costs involved and if paying more gets you more.
more or less all the tuners have come up with some outstanding work, no one is trying to say they havn't, but take a step back and look at costs. The gobstopper isn't unbeatable yet its had well into 6 figures thrown at it.
23 February 2011, 10:17 PM
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RCM are quality fact..........
But........I'm expecting between 6-650bhp when my car gets mapped in a month or so.......now I think that qualifies as big power (or bigger than most)........and my engine is built @ scoobyclinic......I know the full spec of mine and no RCM parts are involved even though both the clinic and RCM work very closely towards each other.......the only outside party contributing to my build is a Zen dry sump system..........everything else are manufactures parts.......don't know how you can say you HAVE to have RCM in a big build
But........I'm expecting between 6-650bhp when my car gets mapped in a month or so.......now I think that qualifies as big power (or bigger than most)........and my engine is built @ scoobyclinic......I know the full spec of mine and no RCM parts are involved even though both the clinic and RCM work very closely towards each other.......the only outside party contributing to my build is a Zen dry sump system..........everything else are manufactures parts.......don't know how you can say you HAVE to have RCM in a big build
23 February 2011, 11:16 PM
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RCM are quality fact..........
But........I'm expecting between 6-650bhp when my car gets mapped in a month or so.......now I think that qualifies as big power (or bigger than most)........and my engine is built @ scoobyclinic......I know the full spec of mine and no RCM parts are involved even though both the clinic and RCM work very closely towards each other.......the only outside party contributing to my build is a Zen dry sump system..........everything else are manufactures parts.......don't know how you can say you HAVE to have RCM in a big build
But........I'm expecting between 6-650bhp when my car gets mapped in a month or so.......now I think that qualifies as big power (or bigger than most)........and my engine is built @ scoobyclinic......I know the full spec of mine and no RCM parts are involved even though both the clinic and RCM work very closely towards each other.......the only outside party contributing to my build is a Zen dry sump system..........everything else are manufactures parts.......don't know how you can say you HAVE to have RCM in a big build
24 February 2011, 12:05 AM
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Another vote for enginetuner here 
All done under one roof. So if anything was to go wrong, I dont have to worry about the blame game. Mechanic blames the engine builder, engine builder blames the mapper etc etc....you get the point
Also with Alan and Martyn you get no bulls!@t, straight to the point advice on what will work and what wont and how much things will cost drive in/drive out.
All done under one roof. So if anything was to go wrong, I dont have to worry about the blame game. Mechanic blames the engine builder, engine builder blames the mapper etc etc....you get the point
Also with Alan and Martyn you get no bulls!@t, straight to the point advice on what will work and what wont and how much things will cost drive in/drive out.
24 February 2011, 12:11 AM
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Thing is though you could say that about other tuners, some of which run more race cars and have more success. quoted by Tidgy
Who is it you are referring to? Because as far as I know RCM have had more success than anyone since they started doing the competitons.
T.O.T.B...2007...2008...2009
Time Attack Pro Class...2007..2nd
2008..1st
2009..1st
Japanese Performance Magazine Tuner of the year 2007...2008...2009
Last year they didn't enter any of the competitions as they were developing their business in the run up to their relocation to bigger and better premises. When they are in the new premises they will resume work on the "All New Gobstopper" which is promising to be even better than the old Gobstopper.
Another thing is, even if you don't want to pay for a RCM build, they will sell you the parts and help you/give you the info to acheive your goal.
And any help/info they give you is free even if you don't buy any parts.
Who is it you are referring to? Because as far as I know RCM have had more success than anyone since they started doing the competitons.
T.O.T.B...2007...2008...2009
Time Attack Pro Class...2007..2nd
2008..1st
2009..1st
Japanese Performance Magazine Tuner of the year 2007...2008...2009
Last year they didn't enter any of the competitions as they were developing their business in the run up to their relocation to bigger and better premises. When they are in the new premises they will resume work on the "All New Gobstopper" which is promising to be even better than the old Gobstopper.
Another thing is, even if you don't want to pay for a RCM build, they will sell you the parts and help you/give you the info to acheive your goal.
And any help/info they give you is free even if you don't buy any parts.
24 February 2011, 12:16 AM
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This is becoming quite an entertaining thread 
There are a few things being overlooked about RCM. Firstly lets not forget RCM had nothing to do with fast road / track cars. They catered for the rally scene only.
One thing overlooked or maybe underestimated is Matt Clark. The guy is a fooking genius when it comes to the understanding of engines.
I very nearly bought Andy F's old car as P2. Matt was going to come with me and we were interested in the shell. He told me that he could build me an engine that would run 8's all year long. Those of you who know Matt will agree that he is the most modest guy on the planet, so if he tells you something it will happen.
Wait until you see GS2 !!
There are a few things being overlooked about RCM. Firstly lets not forget RCM had nothing to do with fast road / track cars. They catered for the rally scene only.
One thing overlooked or maybe underestimated is Matt Clark. The guy is a fooking genius when it comes to the understanding of engines.
I very nearly bought Andy F's old car as P2. Matt was going to come with me and we were interested in the shell. He told me that he could build me an engine that would run 8's all year long. Those of you who know Matt will agree that he is the most modest guy on the planet, so if he tells you something it will happen.
Wait until you see GS2 !!
24 February 2011, 05:55 AM
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24 February 2011, 06:52 AM
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Hey presto, even the clinic (renowned for cracking labour rates) can't do it for you for under 5 figures.I am in the middle of a 500bhp+ build and to do it 110% it's costing more like £30k
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24 February 2011, 08:12 AM
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Thing is though you could say that about other tuners, some of which run more race cars and have more success. quoted by Tidgy
Who is it you are referring to? Because as far as I know RCM have had more success than anyone since they started doing the competitons.
T.O.T.B...2007...2008...2009
Time Attack Pro Class...2007..2nd
2008..1st
2009..1st
Japanese Performance Magazine Tuner of the year 2007...2008...2009
Last year they didn't enter any of the competitions as they were developing their business in the run up to their relocation to bigger and better premises. When they are in the new premises they will resume work on the "All New Gobstopper" which is promising to be even better than the old Gobstopper.
Another thing is, even if you don't want to pay for a RCM build, they will sell you the parts and help you/give you the info to acheive your goal.
And any help/info they give you is free even if you don't buy any parts.
Who is it you are referring to? Because as far as I know RCM have had more success than anyone since they started doing the competitons.
T.O.T.B...2007...2008...2009
Time Attack Pro Class...2007..2nd
2008..1st
2009..1st
Japanese Performance Magazine Tuner of the year 2007...2008...2009
Last year they didn't enter any of the competitions as they were developing their business in the run up to their relocation to bigger and better premises. When they are in the new premises they will resume work on the "All New Gobstopper" which is promising to be even better than the old Gobstopper.
Another thing is, even if you don't want to pay for a RCM build, they will sell you the parts and help you/give you the info to acheive your goal.
And any help/info they give you is free even if you don't buy any parts.
lol, but none of them involves head to head, multilap racing. Some tuners have moved on from those events now and spend more time and effort elsewhere.But thats a bit off track to whats being said, the whole point is does the cost justify the means? the gobstoppers had more money thrown at it than most peoples houses. yet it can be beaten.
i know very few tuners who wont help you with advice when you ask or take the time to go and meet them.