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Old 25 February 2011, 08:37 AM
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Looks like you are one of only a few (comparatively speaking) left now.

"The Foreign Office admitted that there could still be up to 300 Britons stranded in remote areas of the Libyan desert."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...f-Britons.html
Old 25 February 2011, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
Still in the desert. If we can't get a flight today may drive to Egypt.

All the best and good luck
Old 25 February 2011, 09:12 AM
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^^^ That's what I was thinking. From the news reports it seems there's a fairly good chance of someone coming to get you shortly.
Old 25 February 2011, 09:17 AM
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And if they don't come, perhaps Xx-IAN-xX could provide a plan to get out of the country.
Old 25 February 2011, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by jonc
And if they don't come, perhaps Xx-IAN-xX could provide a plan to get out of the country.
Yes I am surprised Rambo has not already posted his ideas here or maybe he PM'd them directly to Tony
Old 25 February 2011, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Yes I am surprised Rambo has not already posted his ideas here or maybe he PM'd them directly to Tony
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxq-I0a7myA
Old 25 February 2011, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Yes I am surprised Rambo has not already posted his ideas here or maybe he PM'd them directly to Tony
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Your certainly obsessed with me internet warrior. But I've noticed you like to jump on anyone that doesn't share your views.
Old 25 February 2011, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Xx-IAN-xX
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Your certainly obsessed with me internet warrior. But I've noticed you like to jump on anyone that doesn't share your views.
Good point .... except it isn't just me is it? Hint: Have a wee look at a few other posts to you other than mine.... and I am the one who is obsessed????
Old 25 February 2011, 12:04 PM
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Hope you get out ok Tony.

I've currently a mate from my forces days stuck out there. He does mine clearance for a living.

As for Ian, you mate are a prize c*ck and you havent got the first idea of what you're talking about. Wind your loud mouth ignorant neck in. Now is not the time for self righteous insensative remarks.
Old 25 February 2011, 12:09 PM
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I do not want to personalise this around TDW as I do not know his circumstances – but surely there is a legitimate point about workers who work abroad in volatile places, with handsome rewards, who do not pay any tax in the UK (on foreign earnings) but expect the UK TAX payer to bail them out when the **** hits the proverbial.
Old 25 February 2011, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by **************
There is but i'm not sure i'd put oil rig workers in that category compared to someone who decides to go and do private security contracts in Iraq.
Agreed
Old 25 February 2011, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
I do not want to personalise this around TDW as I do not know his circumstances – but surely there is a legitimate point about workers who work abroad in volatile places, with handsome rewards, who do not pay any tax in the UK (on foreign earnings) but expect the UK TAX payer to bail them out when the **** hits the proverbial.
That is a good point.
And one that has been completely missed by some on here.
I do hope Tony gets out safely.


I miss his stupid, idiotic ramblings!

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Old 25 February 2011, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by dazdavies
Hope you get out ok Tony.

I've currently a mate from my forces days stuck out there. He does mine clearance for a living.

As for Ian, you mate are a prize c*ck and you havent got the first idea of what you're talking about. Wind your loud mouth ignorant neck in. Now is not the time for self righteous insensative remarks.
. And you do, well I'll not report the abusive post and put it down to you being uneducated and a bit of a prat.
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To mitigate damage and to increase the safety for staff, organizations must provide reliable and realistic plans to ensure the safety and security of employees. “Hope is not a security plan,”. Instead of hoping for the best, organizations should plan ahead, educate their staff and never underestimate what can happen.Proper training is one of the essential security tools, and should begin in the recruitment and induction process. Training should be practical, aiming to familiarize personnel with equipment and skills.Safety and security planning start at the proposal development stage. Proposals deal with questions like: Are you prepared to evacuate staff? Are members of your staff medically, physically and psychologically compatible to the assignment? Have you considered cultural compatibility? Where will your offices be located and what type of security will you need? Answers to these questions provide a framework for planning.Traveling creates its own risks and a third of Employers do not have any type of travel policy. Safety can be compromised by being in the wrong place at the wrong time, even in non-hostile situations and countries. Clearly defined travel policies can help organizations mitigate risks associated with travel.

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Maybe the companies they work for should take some responsibility.
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I posted because I thought you were bang out of order in what you were saying. I stand by that.

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It's amazing what you can say from behind a keyboard!
Old 25 February 2011, 02:59 PM
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I don't think I can stand the keyboard heroics any longer.


TdW - still wishing you all the best.
Old 25 February 2011, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by **************
For 2 private contract security bods you 'arf throw handbags about
ssshhh you'll ruin the ***** waving contest
Old 25 February 2011, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Xx-IAN-xX
Good to see your still trolling the site f1 fan, nothing changes . But no where in this thread did I say he should be left to rot (unless you can see otherwise). The OP should have weighed up the risk/profit benefits before embarking into the region , its no good moaning now its backfired on him.He's obviously had time to come on here posting, personally I would have spent that time planning my escape
I have to say that unless I have missed something somewhere, I have not yet seen him moaning about his position, merely reporting on what has been happening and what he will do if necessary.

If you were offered a job with a very good salary compared to what you might normally make, wouldn't you be tempted, and can you blame someone for taking it? Yes if there is some risk involved, that is purely his affair.

That does not give you the right to run him down when unforeseen circumstances arise and to start throwing his salary in his face. It seems infinitely more reasonable to wish him a safe return as a British subject who has in fact done nothing wrong!

Les
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Originally Posted by dazdavies
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I posted because I thought you were bang out of order in what you were saying. I stand by that.
To mitigate damage and to increase the safety for staff, organizations must provide reliable and realistic plans to ensure the safety and security of employees. “Hope is not a security plan,”. Instead of hoping for the best, organizations should plan ahead, educate their staff and never underestimate what can happen.Proper training is one of the essential security tools, and should begin in the recruitment and induction process. Training should be practical, aiming to familiarize personnel with equipment and skills.Safety and security planning start at the proposal development stage. Proposals deal with questions like: Are you prepared to evacuate staff? Are members of your staff medically, physically and psychologically compatible to the assignment? Have you considered cultural compatibility? Where will your offices be located and what type of security will you need? Answers to these questions provide a framework for planning.Traveling creates its own risks and a third of Employers do not have any type of travel policy. Safety can be compromised by being in the wrong place at the wrong time, even in non-hostile situations and countries. Clearly defined travel policies can help organizations mitigate risks associated with travel.


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So you don't agree with what I said then
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Originally Posted by Leslie
I have to say that unless I have missed something somewhere, I have not yet seen him moaning about his position, merely reporting on what has been happening and what he will do if necessary.

If you were offered a job with a very good salary compared to what you might normally make, wouldn't you be tempted, and can you blame someone for taking it? Yes if there is some risk involved, that is purely his affair.

That does not give you the right to run him down when unforeseen circumstances arise and to start throwing his salary in his face. It seems infinitely more reasonable to wish him a safe return as a British subject who has in fact done nothing wrong!

Les

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I hope he does have a safe return Les and I have turned down salary over safety .
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Who could have predicted that at the beginning of this year that Libya would suddenly have a mass civillian uprising and civil war of this scale, let alone the tatics that Gadaffi would use to try and quel the mass protest. Due to the speed with which this dangerous situation has escalated, no amount of planning and preparation would have been sufficient if you were to be caught up in this unpredictable scenario.
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Don't worry tony chuck Norris is on his way.

Hope you get out soon
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Originally Posted by jonc
Who could have predicted that at the beginning of this year that Libya would suddenly have a mass civillian uprising and civil war of this scale, let alone the tatics that Gadaffi would use to try and quel the mass protest. Due to the speed with which this dangerous situation has escalated, no amount of planning and preparation would have been sufficient if you were to be caught up in this unpredictable scenario.
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Safety can be compromised by being in the wrong place at the wrong time, even in non-hostile situations and countries. Clearly defined travel policies can help organizations mitigate risks associated with travel.
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Originally Posted by Xx-IAN-xX
.Safety can be compromised by being in the wrong place at the wrong time, even in non-hostile situations and countries. Clearly defined travel policies can help organizations mitigate risks associated with travel.
Well thanks again for stating the obvious!! That statement sounds like it's come straight out of some guide or manual. This is an extreme set of circumstances that no set of defined company travel policies could even have a hope of mitigating the sort risks that exist now in Libya. This isn't like a fire drill you can train staff for and this situation certainly won't let you evacuate the country in a nice orderly fashion.

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Originally Posted by Xx-IAN-xX
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I hope he does have a safe return Les and I have turned down salary over safety .
Fair enough!

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