Anyone been deer hunting?
05 March 2011, 11:17 PM
#35
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My point entirely.
You load your animals to go to the slaughter house.
They have a stressful journey there.
They are unloaded in the holding pen.
They smell death.
They have to wait in the holding pen until the paperwork is done.
They then move to the slaughter area.
They are electrically stunned.
They are suspended upside down and their throats are cut so their blood is drained.
How do I know this? Because I take our sheep to the abbatoir.
Now compare this to how a wild deer is killed:
I stalk the deer.
It doesn't know I am there.
I squeeze the trigger.
The deer is dead.
Which is the most humane?
You load your animals to go to the slaughter house.
They have a stressful journey there.
They are unloaded in the holding pen.
They smell death.
They have to wait in the holding pen until the paperwork is done.
They then move to the slaughter area.
They are electrically stunned.
They are suspended upside down and their throats are cut so their blood is drained.
How do I know this? Because I take our sheep to the abbatoir.
Now compare this to how a wild deer is killed:
I stalk the deer.
It doesn't know I am there.
I squeeze the trigger.
The deer is dead.
Which is the most humane?
05 March 2011, 11:18 PM
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My point entirely.
You load your animals to go to the slaughter house.
They have a stressful journey there.
They are unloaded in the holding pen.
They smell death.
They have to wait in the holding pen until the paperwork is done.
They then move to the slaughter area.
They are electrically stunned.
They are suspended upside down and their throats are cut so their blood is drained.
How do I know this? Because I take our sheep to the abbatoir.
Now compare this to how a wild deer is killed:
I stalk the deer.
It doesn't know I am there.
I squeeze the trigger.
The deer is dead.
Which is the most humane?
You load your animals to go to the slaughter house.
They have a stressful journey there.
They are unloaded in the holding pen.
They smell death.
They have to wait in the holding pen until the paperwork is done.
They then move to the slaughter area.
They are electrically stunned.
They are suspended upside down and their throats are cut so their blood is drained.
How do I know this? Because I take our sheep to the abbatoir.
Now compare this to how a wild deer is killed:
I stalk the deer.
It doesn't know I am there.
I squeeze the trigger.
The deer is dead.
Which is the most humane?
06 March 2011, 12:04 AM
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Most deer that are shot are picked out because they either have something wrong or are not of good enough quality to be allowed to breed from.Its not a case of seeing one and shooting it.You could see a dozen before you actually see one thats fit to shoot.So in a weird way it is for there own good,plus of course numbers need to be kept down as well. 
06 March 2011, 10:39 AM
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It's doing the general deer population a favour, removal of the weakest.
It's doing my dinner plate a favour.
It's doing farmers and other land owners a favour as too many deer mean natural food sources are too scarce meaning they start eating crops and damaging trees.
Well shot deer suffer alot less than cattle and sheep that go through a slaughter house.
Qualifications in deer management do exist (DMQ's) but are not compulsory to have.
It's doing my dinner plate a favour.
It's doing farmers and other land owners a favour as too many deer mean natural food sources are too scarce meaning they start eating crops and damaging trees.
Well shot deer suffer alot less than cattle and sheep that go through a slaughter house.
Qualifications in deer management do exist (DMQ's) but are not compulsory to have.
06 March 2011, 01:24 PM
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My point entirely.
You load your animals to go to the slaughter house.
They have a stressful journey there.
They are unloaded in the holding pen.
They smell death.
They have to wait in the holding pen until the paperwork is done.
They then move to the slaughter area.
They are electrically stunned.
They are suspended upside down and their throats are cut so their blood is drained.
How do I know this? Because I take our sheep to the abbatoir.
Now compare this to how a wild deer is killed:
I stalk the deer.
It doesn't know I am there.
I squeeze the trigger.
The deer is dead.
Which is the most humane?
You load your animals to go to the slaughter house.
They have a stressful journey there.
They are unloaded in the holding pen.
They smell death.
They have to wait in the holding pen until the paperwork is done.
They then move to the slaughter area.
They are electrically stunned.
They are suspended upside down and their throats are cut so their blood is drained.
How do I know this? Because I take our sheep to the abbatoir.
Now compare this to how a wild deer is killed:
I stalk the deer.
It doesn't know I am there.
I squeeze the trigger.
The deer is dead.
Which is the most humane?
If you feel as you say, I am surprised you are able to take your sheep for slaughter.
Les
06 March 2011, 01:39 PM
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Can never guarentee a lethal first shot but training and target pactice (not on live animals) all increase the likelyhood of an instant kill. The vast majority just drop on the spot.
You have to take sheep/cattle to the slaughterhouse, it's agaist the law to shoot them.
You have to take sheep/cattle to the slaughterhouse, it's agaist the law to shoot them.
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Can never guarentee a lethal first shot but training and target pactice (not on live animals) all increase the likelyhood of an instant kill. The vast majority just drop on the spot.
You have to take sheep/cattle to the slaughterhouse, it's agaist the law to shoot them.
You have to take sheep/cattle to the slaughterhouse, it's agaist the law to shoot them.
I expect you don't feel very happy when you do have to take your animals for slaughter. As you say it is a fact which can't be got around.
Les
08 March 2011, 12:53 PM
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Regarding slaughter houses, when we first started keeping sheep the intention was to send the lambs for slaughter, and part of the initial decision was that I wouldn't be prepared to keep them unless I was prepared to see them through to the end - taking them to the slaughter house, and if necessary seeing them killed.
My wife is a vet and our first priority is the welfare of the animals.
We use a small local slaughter house. I don't load the sheep until early on the morning they are going for slaughter, it is a short journey there, I make sure I am first in the queue at the slaughter house so there is no waiting, and they go straight in for slaughter. I don't enjoy taking them for slaughter, but it's a responsibility I take seriously.
We only keep a small flock at home, raised organically, and they have a good life before they go to slaughter - certainly better than commercial herds, and the bonus is they taste much better
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You can't guarantee anything with deer stalking, but I use an appropriate calibre for the job and in the majority of cases a single shot is lethal. if you can't be as close to 100% sure of that, you don't take the shot.
Regarding slaughter houses, when we first started keeping sheep the intention was to send the lambs for slaughter, and part of the initial decision was that I wouldn't be prepared to keep them unless I was prepared to see them through to the end - taking them to the slaughter house, and if necessary seeing them killed.
My wife is a vet and our first priority is the welfare of the animals.
We use a small local slaughter house. I don't load the sheep until early on the morning they are going for slaughter, it is a short journey there, I make sure I am first in the queue at the slaughter house so there is no waiting, and they go straight in for slaughter. I don't enjoy taking them for slaughter, but it's a responsibility I take seriously.
We only keep a small flock at home, raised organically, and they have a good life before they go to slaughter - certainly better than commercial herds, and the bonus is they taste much better
Regarding slaughter houses, when we first started keeping sheep the intention was to send the lambs for slaughter, and part of the initial decision was that I wouldn't be prepared to keep them unless I was prepared to see them through to the end - taking them to the slaughter house, and if necessary seeing them killed.
My wife is a vet and our first priority is the welfare of the animals.
We use a small local slaughter house. I don't load the sheep until early on the morning they are going for slaughter, it is a short journey there, I make sure I am first in the queue at the slaughter house so there is no waiting, and they go straight in for slaughter. I don't enjoy taking them for slaughter, but it's a responsibility I take seriously.
We only keep a small flock at home, raised organically, and they have a good life before they go to slaughter - certainly better than commercial herds, and the bonus is they taste much better
Les
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