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21 March 2011, 11:28 PM
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As soon as someone points out you are right wing which you most obviously and clearly are you keep trotting out this stupid Godwin's thing like a retarded school kid in the playground.
You dole out enough condescending crap so be prepared to be told what you are and deal with it or are you cutting and pasting so much you don't even know what you come across like any more?
Try listening to yourself and maybe get that massive ego laden head out of your sorry **** while you are at it!!!
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You dole out enough condescending crap so be prepared to be told what you are and deal with it or are you cutting and pasting so much you don't even know what you come across like any more?
Try listening to yourself and maybe get that massive ego laden head out of your sorry **** while you are at it!!!
Goodnight
21 March 2011, 11:35 PM
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As soon as someone points out you are right wing which you most obviously and clearly are you keep trotting out this stupid Godwin's thing like a retarded school kid in the playground.
You dole out enough condescending crap so be prepared to be told what you are and deal with it or are you cutting and pasting so much you don't even know what you come across like any more?
Try listening to yourself and maybe get that massive ego laden head out of your sorry **** while you are at it!!!
Goodnight
You dole out enough condescending crap so be prepared to be told what you are and deal with it or are you cutting and pasting so much you don't even know what you come across like any more?
Try listening to yourself and maybe get that massive ego laden head out of your sorry **** while you are at it!!!
Goodnight
21 March 2011, 11:39 PM
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21 March 2011, 11:45 PM
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Why not? A record of the perpetrators? We only have your word.
21 March 2011, 11:45 PM
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Margret slapped his ****, then he was good gave oil to the west got gobby now time to slap him again,we should listen try and understand his problems then if all else fails bomb the bastar-d only because his uniform looks naff !!! ps we will get the oil before the frogs
21 March 2011, 11:56 PM
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You can bloody talk! The way that you and TDW talk to yourself. At least F1 and I are seperate people! I have just found his insults to be particularly cutting and hilarious.
Do you have a problem with that? You are free to respond to him, or otherwise, being incapable of that, you can inferr 'something else' about my response?
To be fair to you I find it particularly annoying that whilst trying to out intellectualise TDW (it's SO difficult doing that!) for people to make annoying little comments like the ones that I am doing on here.
So, sorry for being annoying, but I don't have the time to respond properly to this thread.
Will do so soon...
Do you have a problem with that? You are free to respond to him, or otherwise, being incapable of that, you can inferr 'something else' about my response?
To be fair to you I find it particularly annoying that whilst trying to out intellectualise TDW (it's SO difficult doing that!) for people to make annoying little comments like the ones that I am doing on here.
So, sorry for being annoying, but I don't have the time to respond properly to this thread.
Will do so soon...
22 March 2011, 12:02 AM
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Margret slapped his ****, then he was good gave oil to the west got gobby now time to slap him again,we should listen try and understand his problems then if all else fails bomb the bastar-d only because his uniform looks naff !!! ps we will get the oil before the frogs
http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/De...yAnnounced.htm
22 March 2011, 12:10 AM
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You can bloody talk! The way that you and TDW talk to yourself. At least F1 and I are seperate people! I have just found his insults to be particularly cutting and hilarious.
Do you have a problem with that? You are free to respond to him, or otherwise, being incapable of that, you can inferr 'something else' about my response?
To be fair to you I find it particularly annoying that whilst trying to out intellectualise TDW (it's SO difficult doing that!) for people to make annoying little comments like the ones that I am doing on here.
So, sorry for being annoying, but I don't have the time to respond properly to this thread.
Will do so soon...
Do you have a problem with that? You are free to respond to him, or otherwise, being incapable of that, you can inferr 'something else' about my response?
To be fair to you I find it particularly annoying that whilst trying to out intellectualise TDW (it's SO difficult doing that!) for people to make annoying little comments like the ones that I am doing on here.
So, sorry for being annoying, but I don't have the time to respond properly to this thread.
Will do so soon...
22 March 2011, 12:13 AM
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You can bloody talk! The way that you and TDW talk to yourself. At least F1 and I are seperate people! I have just found his insults to be particularly cutting and hilarious.
Do you have a problem with that? You are free to respond to him, or otherwise, being incapable of that, you can inferr 'something else' about my response?
To be fair to you I find it particularly annoying that whilst trying to out intellectualise TDW (it's SO difficult doing that!) for people to make annoying little comments like the ones that I am doing on here.
So, sorry for being annoying, but I don't have the time to respond properly to this thread.
Will do so soon...
Do you have a problem with that? You are free to respond to him, or otherwise, being incapable of that, you can inferr 'something else' about my response?
To be fair to you I find it particularly annoying that whilst trying to out intellectualise TDW (it's SO difficult doing that!) for people to make annoying little comments like the ones that I am doing on here.
So, sorry for being annoying, but I don't have the time to respond properly to this thread.
Will do so soon...
dl
22 March 2011, 09:36 AM
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Yep a sense of balance, intelligence, normality and the ability to realise when a poster (you in this case) is being a ****!!
Taylor if you were any way impressed with me I would be worried, you are the antithesis of everything I am. Don't even try to expand on that susnshine, you really do not have the capability to do so!!
Taylor if you were any way impressed with me I would be worried, you are the antithesis of everything I am. Don't even try to expand on that susnshine, you really do not have the capability to do so!!
22 March 2011, 09:55 AM
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yes -- we should concentrate the trillions spent on arms by promoting trade (only then can you lift these countries out of poverty), your support for selling arms to these regimes just show your views for what they are - posturing.
These weapons are rarely used externally, and as well as promoting totalitarianism are most often used to suppress the indigenous population.
These weapons are rarely used externally, and as well as promoting totalitarianism are most often used to suppress the indigenous population.
22 March 2011, 09:59 AM
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yes -- we should concentrate the trillions spent on arms by promoting trade (only then can you lift these countries out of poverty), your support for selling arms to these regimes just show your views for what they are - posturing.
These weapons are rarely used externally, and as well as promoting totalitarianism are most often used to suppress the indigenous population.
These weapons are rarely used externally, and as well as promoting totalitarianism are most often used to suppress the indigenous population.
Would you argue that the cold war nukes had no use?
There was no nuclear or conventional war between the superpowers.
22 March 2011, 10:18 AM
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Back to Libya - from the news it seems that the National TV service acts as an effective brainwashing tool for the population promoting the great leader and inventing civilian deaths caused by the evil West.
But I suppose the UN Resolution rules out the West taking out the station with a suitable missile/bomb?
Perhaps the rebels could be given some guidelines?
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But I suppose the UN Resolution rules out the West taking out the station with a suitable missile/bomb?
Perhaps the rebels could be given some guidelines?
dl
22 March 2011, 10:22 AM
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yes -- we should concentrate the trillions spent on arms by promoting trade (only then can you lift these countries out of poverty), your support for selling arms to these regimes just show your views for what they are - posturing.
These weapons are rarely used externally, and as well as promoting totalitarianism are most often used to suppress the indigenous population.
These weapons are rarely used externally, and as well as promoting totalitarianism are most often used to suppress the indigenous population.
22 March 2011, 10:31 AM
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Remind me why iDave wants to keep them in their present form? Oh yes, brain washing the population ....
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22 March 2011, 10:36 AM
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The harsh reality is that the huge demand for arms amongst countries who wish to defend themselves will be met by someone. The only way we can ensure that we can achieve absolute ethicacy on this is to completely withdraw from arms exports.
According to BAE, defence exports were worth £7.2 billion in 2009, we're the largest exporter to the EU, the largest exporter to the US and the industry supports 300,000 jobs.
So, it comes down to a choice between a huge negative economic impact at home that leaves a gap in the market for another nation to fill whilst being able to claim moral authority or adopting a pragmatic approach and accepting the inevitable criticism everytime a conflict ensues."
22 March 2011, 10:36 AM
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Back to Libya - from the news it seems that the National TV service acts as an effective brainwashing tool for the population promoting the great leader and inventing civilian deaths caused by the evil West.
But I suppose the UN Resolution rules out the West taking out the station with a suitable missile/bomb?
Perhaps the rebels could be given some guidelines?
dl
But I suppose the UN Resolution rules out the West taking out the station with a suitable missile/bomb?
Perhaps the rebels could be given some guidelines?
dl
22 March 2011, 10:40 AM
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"It's a fair question and certainly presents an ethical dilema. We've revoked the export licences for Bahrain and Libya and guess that we'll look at other situations country by country.
The harsh reality is that the huge demand for arms amongst countries who wish to defend themselves will be met by someone. The only way we can ensure that we can achieve absolute ethicacy on this is to completely withdraw from arms exports.
According to BAE, defence exports were worth £7.2 billion in 2009, we're the largest exporter to the EU, the largest exporter to the US and the industry supports 300,000 jobs.
So, it comes down to a choice between a huge negative economic impact at home that leaves a gap in the market for another nation to fill whilst being able to claim moral authority or adopting a pragmatic approach and accepting the inevitable criticism everytime a conflict ensues."
The harsh reality is that the huge demand for arms amongst countries who wish to defend themselves will be met by someone. The only way we can ensure that we can achieve absolute ethicacy on this is to completely withdraw from arms exports.
According to BAE, defence exports were worth £7.2 billion in 2009, we're the largest exporter to the EU, the largest exporter to the US and the industry supports 300,000 jobs.
So, it comes down to a choice between a huge negative economic impact at home that leaves a gap in the market for another nation to fill whilst being able to claim moral authority or adopting a pragmatic approach and accepting the inevitable criticism everytime a conflict ensues."
22 March 2011, 10:48 AM
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Thought you were talking about the BBC there! Actually caught a couple of minutes of the news last night when they had their Libyan correspondent on from Tripoli (I think). Geez. It was like listening to somebody reading a story for the thickos! Nice mono-syllabic words, spoken very slowly and deliberately with absolutely no news passed on whatsoever .... I deliberately do not watch the BBC for news/documentaries, and haven't for a few years. They haven't improved that's for sure.
Remind me why iDave wants to keep them in their present form? Oh yes, brain washing the population ....
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Remind me why iDave wants to keep them in their present form? Oh yes, brain washing the population ....
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22 March 2011, 10:51 AM
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As ever the truth lies somewhere in between.
Do you REALLY believe not one civilian has died as a result of our action?
22 March 2011, 10:55 AM
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Brainwashing civilians leads to them volunteering as human shields leading to civilian casualties producing propaganda for the state television which puts more civilians at risk. If taking it out would ultimately protect civilians it would be a legitimate target. "All necessary means."
Don't forget the civilians who actually run the TV network. And I would guess that the human shields are not all willing volunteers, just borrowed for a while until it all ends or they are dead, poor b,astards.
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Edit to ask - Could the West jam the airwaves?
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22 March 2011, 11:07 AM
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The human shield tactic makes me vomit - the babies on the news last night - now thats an ethical dilemma! Take out targets to try to bring the conflict to end quicker and risk their lives to save thousands or cede to Gadaffi's tactics and prolong it? It takes real guts to make those kinds of decisions.
